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Trump Ready To Sign Peace Deal With Taliban If Truce Holds

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Trump Ready To Sign Peace Deal With Taliban If Truce Holds

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Trump needs an Afghan withdrawal at any cost.

2/24/20
U.S. President Donald Trump says he is ready to sign a peace agreement with the Taliban in Afghanistan if a temporary truce between the two sides holds. "We think they want to make a deal, we want to make a deal. I think it's gonna work out, we will see," Trump told reporters before departing for India on February 23. Earlier this month, the two sides announced a weeklong “reduction in violence” that took effect from the start of February 22. If the truce holds, it will be followed by the signing of the peace accord that would end the United States' longest war. Afghan media, however, reported that the Taliban carried out several small-scale attacks on checkpoints manned by Afghan security forces in provinces in the past two days.

So let me see if I understand this. After 19 years of brutal warfare and political murders, if the Taliban can manage to play nice for 1 week, Trump will sign a peace agreement.

It doesn't take a mathematician to figure out the calculus that Trump will sign virtually no matter what. He desperately needs any kind of a foreign policy win for his 2020 election campaign.

It also doesn't take a Roger Penrose intellect to understand that under a new Taliban regime, Afghanistan will return to a terrorist sanctuary similar to that of Mullah Mohammed Omar.

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How do you get Liberals to support a forever war in Afghanistan?

Answer: Let Trump withdraw from the forever war in Afghanistan.
 
Trump Ready To Sign Peace Deal With Taliban If Truce Holds

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Trump needs an Afghan withdrawal at any cost.



So let me see if I understand this. After 19 years of brutal warfare and political murders, if the Taliban can manage to play nice for 1 week, Trump will sign a peace agreement.

It doesn't take a mathematician to figure out the calculus that Trump will sign virtually no matter what. He desperately needs any kind of a foreign policy win for his 2020 election campaign.

It also doesn't take a Roger Penrose intellect to understand that under a new Taliban regime, Afghanistan will return to a terrorist sanctuary similar to that of Mullah Mohammed Omar.

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And that, of course, is the valid reason for us to be there. So treaty, or not, we have to keep troops there.
 
Trump Ready To Sign Peace Deal With Taliban If Truce Holds

930F1451-B5B4-4E43-B1F9-D3644801D4F1_w408_r1.jpg

Trump needs an Afghan withdrawal at any cost.



So let me see if I understand this. After 19 years of brutal warfare and political murders, if the Taliban can manage to play nice for 1 week, Trump will sign a peace agreement.

It doesn't take a mathematician to figure out the calculus that Trump will sign virtually no matter what. He desperately needs any kind of a foreign policy win for his 2020 election campaign.

It also doesn't take a Roger Penrose intellect to understand that under a new Taliban regime, Afghanistan will return to a terrorist sanctuary similar to that of Mullah Mohammed Omar.

Related: Debate Politics:

Even streaming services give you a month free trial to see if you like it. A week isn't very long at all to see if peace can be maintained, but hey, check the next thing off the list regardless if it's complete or not.
 
How do you get Liberals to support a forever war in Afghanistan?

Answer: Let Trump withdraw from the forever war in Afghanistan.

Trump has had 3+ years to withdraw our troops from Afghan.

Why now? The 8-letter answer ... election.
 
Trump has had 3+ years to withdraw our troops from Afghan.

Why now? The 8-letter answer ... election.

Obama had 8 years. Be honest, Trump could have withdrawn from Iraq in 2017 and you would be bitching about it.
 
Obama had 8 years. Be honest, Trump could have withdrawn from Iraq in 2017 and you would be bitching about it.

Obama isn't president. In 2016 Trump campaigned on an Afghan withdrawal. That was 3+ years ago.

He also campaigned on bringing ALL US troops home from the ME. There are more in the ME now than there were in 2016.
 
Obama isn't president. In 2016 Trump campaigned on an Afghan withdrawal. That was 3+ years ago.

He also campaigned on bringing ALL US troops home from the ME. There are more in the ME now than there were in 2016.

You don't actually believe that a total withdrawel can happen in a few weeks, or even months do you? Look how that worked in Iraq and BTW, Obama campaigned on pulling out of Iraq. That took nearly his entire first term and it was a cluster****. I know you're hoping for a cluster****, now, but if you were to be honest, wouldn't you agree that a cluster**** is best avoided?
 
You don't actually believe that a total withdrawel can happen in a few weeks, or even months do you? Look how that worked in Iraq and BTW, Obama campaigned on pulling out of Iraq. That took nearly his entire first term and it was a cluster****. I know you're hoping for a cluster****, now, but if you were to be honest, wouldn't you agree that a cluster**** is best avoided?

It's just a matter of campaign promises meeting reality. And no, it's not unique to Trump.
 
Leave a war?! Not get into a war?!! That is UNTHINKABLE to the Democratic Party. In just the last 12 months, the Democratic Party has demanded we go to war against Syria, Turkey and Russia. The front running Democratic Party presidential candidate is talking about going to war against China over Taiwan.

The Democratic Party came into existence and the presidency by a genocidal sadistic sociopath, Andrew Jackson, who slaughtered and outright exterminated indigenous nations. Over 90% of American war deaths has been under Democratic Party leadership. More Americans - military and civilian - have been killed in war by Democrats than any foreign country's military.

Leave Afghanistan? Only 19 years? There is at least another trillion to be made there on death and destruction. VERY profitable. Such is the foreign policy of the Democratic Party. War, Death and Destruction everywhere - forever.
 
You don't actually believe that a total withdrawel can happen in a few weeks, or even months do you?

Trump has had 3+ years to bring even some troops home from the ME.

Instead he has increased the number of US troops in the ME.

Very much like his elusive "Mexico will pay for the wall" campaign promise.

Now Trump just steals funds from Pentagon construction projects and major military weapons platforms for his vanity wall.
 
Trump has had 3+ years to bring even some troops home from the ME.

Instead he has increased the number of US troops in the ME.

Very much like his elusive "Mexico will pay for the wall" campaign promise.

Now Trump just steals funds from Pentagon construction projects and major military weapons platforms for his vanity wall.

It took Obama 3 years to get out of Iraq
 
Beware a Peace Deal That May Spell War

2/27/20E
Every American should pay attention to the Friday, Feb. 28, announcement of a peace deal with the Taliban that the Trump administration is expected to sign. There are important questions that this administration has not fully answered on this Afghanistan deal. The agreement calls for an initial U.S. troop withdrawal over a five-month period from the current 12,000 troops to no more than 8,600. The first problem is conditionality. Pentagon officials insist that withdrawals of U.S. forces can only happen if the Taliban leaders do not shelter al Qaeda and other terrorist players operating on Afghan territory. According to senior U.S. officials, the job of verifying the Taliban’s word falls to Gen. Scott Miller, the senior commander of forces in Afghanistan. But there is little in the way of metrics and measurements to ensure that judgement call is sound. And, back in Washington, there is concern that President Trump will be the actual decider-in-chief, rather than Miller or Pentagon leaders, and that he will give more priority to his own politics than Americans’ security. Verification may come down to intelligence. But whom should Americans trust? With a commander-in-chief who rejects intelligence findings it may be hard to know what is happening on the ground in Afghanistan. We need a more comprehensive way to know if the Taliban are truly complying or just buying time to regroup. Verification and compliance have not been fully spelled out, and it is not clear which of the many terrorist groups in and around Afghanistan will be monitored, including ISIS and the Haqqani network. Second, this agreement requires an in-depth understanding of the complexities of internal Afghan politics—not something that Trump seems interested in.

Third is the question of what U.S. remaining forces can accomplish for themselves and Afghans—especially if Trump’s true agenda is a draw-down to absolute zero. It is hard enough to stop terrorism within Afghanistan now. Launching special operations and countering violent attacks with fewer supporting troops also could prove difficult and subjects our forces to higher risk. A reduced American footprint also signals to our NATO allies’ capitals that it is safe to withdraw. It is always possible that Trump simply will order all 12,000 U.S. forces home without an orderly process, as he did in Syria. As far back as summer 2017, the president told advisers that he wanted all troops out of Afghanistan by November 2020 suggesting that the terms matter less than his reelection. That is a deadline, not a process. It is exactly the kind of timeline-based pullout Republicans (especially) have opposed for years. A big peace agreement without force nor diplomacy will be hard to execute and American credibility will be sacrificed. Peace deals always sound good on paper. We all want peace. But it has to be real peace, not a run for cover. And it has to be managed by good leaders here and overseas. Congress and the American public should ask hard questions. There are many.

Nothing from the White House or the Pentagon on withdrawal metrics or process. Will this be a hurried Trump bug-out before the election?

As with everything else we get from this dysfunctional administration (coronavirus leadership anyone?), I doubt this is going to go well.
 
If this was Obama you all would be talking about a Nobel Peace Prize.

It's difficult to take liberal conversations seriously anymore.
 
If this was Obama you all would be talking about a Nobel Peace Prize.

It's difficult to take liberal conversations seriously anymore.

You shouldn't have to worry about that since no one takes your conversations seriously either.
 
Trump Ready To Sign Peace Deal With Taliban If Truce Holds
So let me see if I understand this. After 19 years of brutal warfare and political murders, if the Taliban can manage to play nice for 1 week, Trump will sign a peace agreement.
It doesn't take a mathematician to figure out the calculus that Trump will sign virtually no matter what. He desperately needs any kind of a foreign policy win for his 2020 election campaign.
It also doesn't take a Roger Penrose intellect to understand that under a new Taliban regime, Afghanistan will return to a terrorist sanctuary similar to that of Mullah Mohammed Omar.
Related: Debate Politics:

It's not clear that additional efforts on our part will yield any significantly better time to stop digging in that hole.
Things could probably be a little better. And things have probably been a little better.
But Afghanistan is unlikely to ever be fully "fixed" — w/e that means at this point — by our efforts.

So, yeah, maybe we could exit on better terms if X, Y, & Z.
But at the same time, Afghanistan is not crucial to the interests of ourselves or our allies, afaIk.
And the best probable outcomes are probably not that much better.
The costs of leaving now under these conditions are probably not much more than the costs of leaving under w/e best the probable conditions would be.
 
You shouldn't have to worry about that since no one takes your conversations seriously either.

Your coming at this from an emotional liberal place so my response would be...CARE!
 
If this was Obama you all would be talking about a Nobel Peace Prize.

It's difficult to take liberal conversations seriously anymore.

Obama? What? It is hard to hold conversations with rightists with comments like these.
 
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