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US Army cancels Bradley IFV replacement again

ecofarm said:
That's absurd money. They planned to kill you.
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My first reenlistment was the $50k bonus offered for reclassifying to armor crewman. A few months after I got out (6 years later) a voluntary separation program was established. It would have meant a payment of about 150% of annual base pay had I stuck around to see it implemented.

At the time I got out, I was assigned as an instructor training IET students on Bradley, ITV, and FIST-V turret system maintenance. Back on topic.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
If I had to go combat arms it would be tanker. Free ride, heavy armor, if the weather is **** you can just button up and wait it out. Throwing a track sucks yeah, but at least you have three other people to help you with.
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Throw a track at night, in the rain, while you're on the way back to the AA to get some rest, then get back with me...lol
 

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Jredbaron96 said:
Army Cancels $45 Billion Bradley Replacement Competition After Only One Bid Qualified | Military.com



Seems third time wasn't the charm.
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They are not going to replace the bradly anytime soon, they still keep pulling the 113's from the dustbin they have been trying to replace for decades and they have been produced since 1959 and in service since the early 60's. there was also that hmmvw replacement that still is not taking over, about a decade later I still see the old hmmvw's everywhere and the matv in short numbers.
 
apdst said:
Throw a track at night, in the rain, while you're on the way back to the AA to get some rest, then get back with me...lol
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The wash rack is the nightmare that follows the end of all field training as well as the end of a deployment before shipping em back.
 
beerftw said:
The wash rack is the nightmare that follows the end of all field training as well as the end of a deployment before shipping em back.
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We had a huge ass wash rack at Fort Hood. Every time we try to reserve it some pukes from 1st Cav would roll up and try to take over. I remember watching one of our old 1SG try to muscle his way past the Squadron leaders and he got shut down.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
We had a huge ass wash rack at Fort Hood. Every time we try to reserve it some pukes from 1st Cav would roll up and try to take over. I remember watching one of our old 1SG try to muscle his way past the Squadron leaders and he got shut down.
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I know the wash rack you speak of, 4id had to charge in and take it because first cav thought it was theirs, sometimes 4id and 3rd acr teamed up to use the wash rack because 1st cav thought they owned fort hood.
 
beerftw said:
I know the wash rack you speak of, 4id had to charge in and take it because first cav thought it was theirs, sometimes 4id and 3rd acr teamed up to use the wash rack because 1st cav thought they owned fort hood.
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All of Fort Hood when I was there that wasn't 1st Cav spent all their time trying to get daddy III Corps to notice them.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
All of Fort Hood when I was there that wasn't 1st Cav spent all their time trying to get daddy III Corps to notice them.
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When I got to fort hood 4id had half the post and was leaving expect the aviation brigade I was in, after 4id left first cav became the big dogs. I always hated forst cav because their smug attitude, for it it was worse because everywhere 4id went so did fist cav. in afghanistan our aviation brigade got replaces by 615 asb of first cav, they destroyed many documents and claimed they go by first cav standards not army standards, we were in shock because 4id was not in exact line with army standards but we tried atleast.

Also they griped about tent city, when we got there many soldiers were sleeping on the dirt or in overcrowded clamshell tents with no ac, but when first cav showed up they thought it barbaric that anyone sleep in a tent, they thought it bad the commander had to use a tent for a cp as well, and tried to take chiefs homemade beach house, chief of course ordered it taken down and called them whiny little brats since he intended to leave the building until they whined and cried how barbaric tent life was.

Now imagine being replaced by a unit that feels they are owed everything by the army while your unit had to build everything it had from the ground up on limited funds.
 
ecofarm said:
Can't see, can't hear, makes tons of noise, planes want it. Give me a foxhole.
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I was 7 years light and 3 years mechanized.

In peacetime, I'll take mechanized. Beats humping a ruck.

On the other hand, the Bradley is and has always been a piece of **** deathtrap.
 
Hamish Howl said:
I was 7 years light and 3 years mechanized.

In peacetime, I'll take mechanized. Beats humping a ruck.

On the other hand, the Bradley is and has always been a piece of **** deathtrap.
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I don't think I've ever heard a mech inf ever like their vehicles. I had a chance to sit down with some Polish People's Army vets a year or so ago and they had plenty of things to say about their old BMPs.

I'd tell you what the positives were but I don't recall any.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
I don't think I've ever heard a mech inf ever like their vehicles. I had a chance to sit down with some Polish People's Army vets a year or so ago and they had plenty of things to say about their old BMPs.

I'd tell you what the positives were but I don't recall any.
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The BMP is notoriously garbage. It was apparently designed specifically to be a grunt-hibachi.
 
Hamish Howl said:
The BMP is notoriously garbage. It was apparently designed specifically to be a grunt-hibachi.
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Like most Soviet armored vehicles, it was built for one purpose- and **** all else.
 
ecofarm said:
I'm not always smart.
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Oh Master of the Irridescent IQ and the scintilating synapses.

Say it ain't so!!!!

Your fawning lackey.
Evilroddy.
 
beerftw said:
The wash rack is the nightmare that follows the end of all field training as well as the end of a deployment before shipping em back.
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For armored vehicles, it's worse.
 
I would say “The Bradley is fine and does really need a replacement, just updates”, but it’s kind of ridiculous that the US doesn’t have a tracked IFV with a V-shaped hull.
 
There seriously needs to be a Bradley upgrade regardless. Move from the 25mm Bushmaster to the 30mm Bushmaster II, and upgrade the TOW launcher to be able to fire the newest model fire-and-forget version instead of the wire-guided version.
 
ecofarm said:
Can't see, can't hear, makes tons of noise, planes want it. Give me a foxhole.
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Survivability rates historically favor armor. Now days armor can see and hear better than you can.
 
PirateMk1 said:
Survivability rates historically favor armor. Now days armor can see and hear better than you can.
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Subs too. Go ahead and put oneself in one of those and call it a day. No thanks.
 
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