Richard Spencer: I was fired as Navy secretary.

Divine_Wind · Nov 30, 2019

Paradoxical said:
I think he will go down as one of best given enough time. What we are seeing is just how easy peasy it is for people in power to indoctrinate society. It is done through those in charge repeating over and over lies and half truths. Today, we live in a time never before seen in history with 24/7 hate speech spewed out by TV stations masquerading as news reporters and newspapers stacked with far left zealots along with behemoth internet companies shutting out conservative views. This situation is why millions of people were duped into believing that Trump colluded based not on evidence but on the prov=clamations of those in power fortified by their lackeys in the mentioned companies on a 24/7 basis. There have nio apologies by any of them for duping America, either. They just continue on as if nothing happened and come up with new ways to demonize Trump.

We have seen with Trump how it was that Christianity came into being. All you have to do is repeat something over and over and over and get others to do the same. Like an MLM venture, 12 people tell 12 people who tell 144 people who tell 144 people and you get millions believing the same lies.

It is possible that future humans won't know how great Trump is because the media is the one who is not reporting on anything good that Trump does. Every day we see examples of this where a major paper said he was golfing on Thanksgiving when in fact he was visiting our troops in Afghanistan. CNN just ran a very short story on it but put it in the middle of other headlines demeaning him in one way or another.

I have no doubt, like NewsMax, you truly believe Trump is a G.O.A.T President, (according to them) "Greatest of All Time". Between that Newsmax declaration, the Evangelistas declaring Trump is "the anointed one" and Trump's own declarations of him being "the Chosen One", is it any wonder some Christians believe Trump is the Anti-Christ? Matthew 25:31-46 .. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats....

Is President Trump the 'G.O.A.T.?' | Newsmax.com

Donald J. Trump on Twitter: "“Thank you to Wayne Allyn Root for the very nice words. “President Trump is the greatest President for Jews and for Israel in the history of the world, not just America, he is the best President for Israel in the history of the world...and the Jewish people in Israel love him...."
“President Trump is the greatest President for Jews and for Israel in the history of the world, not just America, he is the best President for Israel in the history of the world...and the Jewish people in Israel love him..

Rick Perry says Donald Trump was 'ordained by God' to be president - CNN Video

From 2016: spittle splat : the fuss of us: Is Trump God's Chosen One?

Trump is a man who worships money, has lied and cheated others, is a serial adulterer and who spreads division and hatred. Yet, despite all of these claims by Trump and others, does anyone really think he's a man of God? The Second Coming? Or is it more likely Trump has the Mark of the Beast on him and that he is the Anti-Christ?

Is Donald Trump a false prophet?.....or worse?

Paradoxical · Nov 30, 2019

Rising Sun said:
I have no doubt, like NewsMax, you truly believe Trump is a G.O.A.T President, (according to them) "Greatest of All Time". Between that Newsmax declaration, the Evangelistas declaring Trump is "the anointed one" and Trump's own declarations of him being "the Chosen One", is it any wonder some Christians believe Trump is the Anti-Christ? Matthew 25:31-46 .. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats....

Is President Trump the 'G.O.A.T.?' | Newsmax.com

Donald J. Trump on Twitter: "“Thank you to Wayne Allyn Root for the very nice words. “President Trump is the greatest President for Jews and for Israel in the history of the world, not just America, he is the best President for Israel in the history of the world...and the Jewish people in Israel love him...."
“President Trump is the greatest President for Jews and for Israel in the history of the world, not just America, he is the best President for Israel in the history of the world...and the Jewish people in Israel love him..

Rick Perry says Donald Trump was 'ordained by God' to be president - CNN Video

From 2016: spittle splat : the fuss of us: Is Trump God's Chosen One?

Trump is a man who worships money, has lied and cheated others, is a serial adulterer and who spreads division and hatred. Yet, despite all of these claims by Trump and others, does anyone really think he's a man of God? The Second Coming? Or is it more likely Trump has the Mark of the Beast on him and that he is the Anti-Christ?

Is Donald Trump a false prophet?.....or worse?

You have me confused with Christian evangelicals. I am most definitely not a Christian and Trump is still the best of all time, given the vile, evil daily attacks on him by MSM and Congress. And yes. He is the best president for Jews and Israel in history, too.

Divine_Wind · Nov 30, 2019

Paradoxical said:
You have me confused with Christian evangelicals. I am most definitely not a Christian and Trump is still the best of all time, given the vile, evil daily attacks on him by MSM and Congress. And yes. He is the best president for Jews and Israel in history, too.

So now you're claiming to be Jewish? Fascinating. What's next?

Thanks for tacitly agreeing Trump could be in league with Satan if not the Anti-Christ himself.

Glitch · Nov 30, 2019

Rising Sun said:
Correct about the Coalition. Disagreed about Saddam. While he made some money looking the other way on some terrorists, he wasn't supporting them like the Taliban. The Iraq War was all about oil and putting a significant US presence directly in the middle of it. All taking out Saddam did was remove the doorstop to Iran. It was a blind and stupid mistake since Saddam hated the Iranians, as most Sunnis do, than he hated the West.

You are free to believe Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeldt were all stupid and fooled by Tenet, but I'll always disagree. Tenet gave them information and they made of it what they chose to make of it. Powell was in there pushing hard against any invasion at all and explaining why, yet the top three had an agenda and wouldn't be stopped.

You are mistaken about Saddam. Saddam was actively involved in international terrorism, including providing financial support, training camps, and harboring the PLF terrorist organization (responsible for the Achille Lauro attack on October 7, 1985) in Iraq. Thanks to the US invasion of Iraq, the leader of the PLF (Abu Abbas) was captured in April 2003.

Tenet bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade, then claimed it was a "mistake" because the CIA with its billions of dollar budget, used "out-of-date tourists maps" when selecting the bombing target. Regardless of whether you believe Tenet or not he is an absolute moron either way. How stupid do you have to be to use out-of-date tourist maps? Or if he was lying, how stupid do you have to be use claim you used out-of-date tourist maps? No matter how you slice it, Tenet was a complete idiot.

Any President who fails to fire every appointed member of the prior administration is too stupid to be President and doesn't deserve the position. That includes both Bush43 who kept much of Clinton's appointees and Trump who kept many of Obama's appointees. Then these morons wonder why there are so many leaks in the White House and why their plans are being sabotaged. Stupid politically ignorant fools.

Powell is a Staff General who has no business advising anyone about military matters. He sits behind a desk and hasn't commanded troops in more than 50 years. He is utterly clueless and a worthless political general. No one would suffer being under that fool's command.

Paradoxical · Nov 30, 2019

Rising Sun said:
So now you're claiming to be Jewish? Fascinating. What's next?

Thanks for tacitly agreeing Trump could be in league with Satan if not the Anti-Christ himself.

Where did I say he was a Jew? He has shown the Jews far more support than any other president has. Obama loved Islam so by default, he hated Jews.

Divine_Wind · Nov 30, 2019

Paradoxical said:
Where did I say he was a Jew? He has shown the Jews far more support than any other president has. Obama loved Islam so by default, he hated Jews.

I didn't, but now I understand why you have so many mistaken beliefs.

Divine_Wind · Nov 30, 2019

Glitch said:
You are mistaken about Saddam. Saddam was actively involved in international terrorism, including providing financial support, training camps, and harboring the PLF terrorist organization (responsible for the Achille Lauro attack on October 7, 1985) in Iraq. Thanks to the US invasion of Iraq, the leader of the PLF (Abu Abbas) was captured in April 2003.

Tenet bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade, then claimed it was a "mistake" because the CIA with its billions of dollar budget, used "out-of-date tourists maps" when selecting the bombing target. Regardless of whether you believe Tenet or not he is an absolute moron either way. How stupid do you have to be to use out-of-date tourist maps? Or if he was lying, how stupid do you have to be use claim you used out-of-date tourist maps? No matter how you slice it, Tenet was a complete idiot.

Any President who fails to fire every appointed member of the prior administration is too stupid to be President and doesn't deserve the position. That includes both Bush43 who kept much of Clinton's appointees and Trump who kept many of Obama's appointees. Then these morons wonder why there are so many leaks in the White House and why their plans are being sabotaged. Stupid politically ignorant fools.

Powell is a Staff General who has no business advising anyone about military matters. He sits behind a desk and hasn't commanded troops in more than 50 years. He is utterly clueless and a worthless political general. No one would suffer being under that fool's command.

Disagreed on several of your points, but it's easy to see you were trying to justify the deaths of over 4,400 American heroes, the wounding and maiming of over 31,000 American heroes and the cost of over one trillion Taxpayer dollars. The invasion and occupation of Iraq is going down as one of the greatest military blunders the United States has ever made due to the extremely high cost in American blood and treasure for little gain and a lot of loss of respect for the United States.

Glitch · Nov 30, 2019

Rising Sun said:
He probably will. Again, time will tell how Trump's Presidency will be remembered in history. At the moment, I think he's in contention to be on the Top Ten Worst Presidents list even if he wins reelection....which indicates a deeper problem with American politics than just a single lying, draft-dodging coward, serial sexual predator and probable Adderall addict.

Worst Presidents

Donald Trump is the third worst president in U.S. history, survey says

Consider the source. Siena College, seriously? A radically leftist university who thinks the fascists FDR and Truman was the second and seventh best Presidents in US history. That is your source?

I would argue that they are pushing an agenda and have no real interest in historical accuracy or the facts at all. No other President in the history of the US imprisoned tens of thousands of Americans without due process, stealing their land and property. No other President in the history of the US ever attempted to nationalize a private industry. Yet we are suppose to believe that fascists FDR and Truman were somehow "great" American Presidents? Pure partisan propaganda, nothing more.

Glitch · Nov 30, 2019

Rising Sun said:
Disagreed on several of your points

You can disagree all you like, but you can't refute the facts. Tenet was an idiot, and Bush43 was a moron for keeping him. In the war against terrorism, removing Saddam Hussein was essential. As is removing the ruling party in Iran. Iran is an even bigger sponsor of international terrorism than Iraq was. The entire war against terrorism is a farce if the terrorist sponsoring government in Iran is not removed.

Divine_Wind · Nov 30, 2019

Glitch said:
You can disagree all you like, but you can't refute the facts. Tenet was an idiot, and Bush43 was a moron for keeping him. In the war against terrorism, removing Saddam Hussein was essential. As is removing the ruling party in Iran. Iran is an even bigger sponsor of international terrorism than Iraq was. The entire war against terrorism is a farce if the terrorist sponsoring government in Iran is not removed.

I'm content to let others decide for themselves if your opinions are, indeed, facts.

So if Iran is worse, why didn't we just invade Iran? Why ruin our own military and budget against Iraq?

Glitch · Nov 30, 2019

Rising Sun said:
I'm content to let others decide for themselves if your opinions are, indeed, facts.

So if Iran is worse, why didn't we just invade Iran? Why ruin our own military and budget against Iraq?

Ask your buddy Tenet. He drove the narrative, including allowing Iran to kill hundreds of Americans in Iraq without retaliation.

Divine_Wind · Nov 30, 2019

Glitch said:
Ask your buddy Tenet. He drove the narrative, including allowing Iran to kill hundreds of Americans in Iraq without retaliation.

So, like I said before, you're claiming Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeldt were complete incompetent morons and the entire Iraq war is Tenet's fault. LOL Awesome.

Glitch · Nov 30, 2019

Rising Sun said:
So, like I said before, you're claiming Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeldt were complete incompetent morons and the entire Iraq war is Tenet's fault. LOL Awesome.

Where did I say anything about Cheney or Rumsfeldt? If you are going to start deliberately lying by claiming things I never stated, this conversation is over. I don't suffer lying fools.

Divine_Wind · Nov 30, 2019

Glitch said:
Where did I say anything about Cheney or Rumsfeldt? If you are going to start deliberately lying by claiming things I never stated, this conversation is over. I don't suffer lying fools.

Sorry, I didn't know you are clueless about the chain of command in our nation. GW Bush was the President, Cheney was the Vice President and Rumsfeldt was the Secretary of Defense. Tenet was just the CIA director. He lacked the powers to declare war, activate and deploy our troops and address the nation.

Thoreau72 · Dec 1, 2019

Rising Sun said:
Disagreed on several of your points, but it's easy to see you were trying to justify the deaths of over 4,400 American heroes, the wounding and maiming of over 31,000 American heroes and the cost of over one trillion Taxpayer dollars. The invasion and occupation of Iraq is going down as one of the greatest military blunders the United States has ever made due to the extremely high cost in American blood and treasure for little gain and a lot of loss of respect for the United States.

Not to mention it was a bright and shining lie from the start that got us there.

Divine_Wind · Dec 1, 2019

Thoreau72 said:
Not to mention it was a bright and shining lie from the start that got us there.

Not as bright and shining as some want to make it appear, but I agree we invaded Iraq on false pretenses. The fact remains that every Democrat who voted for the war was also in on the lie. I suspect the reason was the 2004 election and they didn't want to appear spineless in defending the US so soon after 9/11.