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[W:95]Infantry Shoulder Rope

When I was in Korea I was authorized to wear a green cord. Kinda wish I had the chance to actually wear it.

The straight out solid Green cord is Staff Specialist which would likely be you based on some indications you've made in some of your posts.

Bottle Green with Gray piping cord is Psychological Ops.

Green with yellow piping cord is Military Police.


May I ask, were you issued the solid green cord or, rather, not issued the cord in being authorized to wear it? Perhaps you were also issued instructions or orders not to wear it unless ordered specifically to wear it...and wear it only for the limited time period or occasion specified? If so, written authorization or verbal? You knew somehow you couldn't wear the green cord except for a specific and expressed reason, ne c'est pas?


This should be the cord you reference if you ever actually saw it or got your hands on it. It's a better cord for sure than most of 'em are. The Infantry cord however does not have the firehose tip as a lot of us derided the metal tip on cords when I was in -- most cords had it, some didn't have it.

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And we almost always called it a cord. In contrast, an older term, braid, was still in use somewhat when I was in but it had been pretty much discarded. Nobody in my unit, 3 IR TOG ever called it a rope. 3 IR was the first unit issued the blue cord and enlisted lapel brass blue disk inserts.

3 IR TOG was also issued a green cloth tab that we slid onto the shoulder flap and on which the unit gold brass insignia of a colonial era cockade was worn. This was on the winter greens and the summer tans/khakis, and then on the year round greens once they came out. Since Army went to the blue uniform a decade ago the colonial cockade is worn on the chest right side above foreign and other decorations as in this photo:

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3d Infantry Regiment was formed and organized June 3, 1784 with the 1st and 2nd IR as the first standing army. Given a standing army was generally unpopular it was called the Legion of the United States. After the War of 1812 the 3 regiments were incorporated as the 3d regiment which had the senior colonel. 3 IR The Old Guard is the oldest active infantry regiment of the Army.


Gen. McDowell noted to President Lincoln, "Mr. President, these are the men who saved your Army at Bull Run." To which Lincoln said, "I have heard of them."
 
"United States Army Branch Specific Shoulder Cords

Criteria: The Army Shoulder Cord is intended to be worn on the Class A dress green or dress blue uniform jacket or Class B shirt. According to the most recent version of the Army Regulation 670-1 (AR 670-1), the blue infantry cord is the only shoulder cord currently authorized for wear on any Army uniform. The other colored cords, corresponding to the different army branches, can be authorized by unit commanders to be worn during particular events."



I was 11B so I don't know anything about the other cords, but according to the above quote I found other cords can be worn if authorized by unit commanders for a specific event. True or not, I don't know.

True.

It states it in the reg that your own post quotes, as I have highlighted it:

The other colored cords, corresponding to the different army branches, can be authorized by unit commanders to be worn during particular events."


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May I ask, were you issued the solid green cord or, rather, not issued the cord in being authorized to wear it? Perhaps you were also issued instructions or orders not to wear it unless ordered specifically to wear it...and wear it only for the limited time period or occasion specified? If so, written authorization or verbal? You knew somehow you couldn't wear the green cord except for a specific and expressed reason, ne c'est pas?

It was green with a few other colors, I think red. I was told it was French and we were wearing it because of our units history in France. I was assigned to HHBN, 2ID when I was in Korea, but we never did ASU inspections after I got it so I never wore it.
 
It was green with a few other colors, I think red. I was told it was French and we were wearing it because of our units history in France. I was assigned to HHBN, 2ID when I was in Korea, but we never did ASU inspections after I got it so I never wore it.

What you are describing sounds like the French Croix De Guerre. We in the 82nd ABN were authorized to wear the unit decoration as a rope on the right shoulder.

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I can’t find a link to the 2ID award, although 2ID was at Belleau Wood in the War to End All Wars.
 
What you are describing sounds like the French Croix De Guerre. We in the 82nd ABN were authorized to wear the unit decoration as a rope on the right shoulder.

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I can’t find a link to the 2ID award, although 2ID was at Belleau Wood in the War to End All Wars.

Good and happy stuff indeed. More power to you.

I see you had the firehose tip the Infantry blue cord does not have and which we in the 3 IR The Old Guard of the Army mocked.

Still, if the Army said a cord was the thing, then it was the thing. After all one doesn't fight city hall. Your assignment was to pay attention to and to execute your duty as a member of the armed forces and within your MOS.

Much of US militaria is derived from the European systems. The line is drawn by Pentagon and Congress however once the US armed forces begin to look like servants of European monarchies.
 
The Army colors cadence nobody seems to know anymore...


The Army Colors
The colors are red.
To show the world,
the blood we've shed.

The Army Colors
The colors are white.
To show the world,
that we can fight.

The Army Colors
The colors are blue.
To show the world,
that we are true.

The Army Colors
The colors are green.
To show the world,
that we are mean.


Jus sayin.
 
I didn’t know this.....


Only for specific events...

The Army Shoulder Cord is intended to be worn on the Class A dress green or dress blue uniform jacket or Class B shirt. According to the most recent version of the Army Regulation 670-1 (AR 670-1), the blue infantry cord is the only shoulder cord currently authorized for wear on any Army uniform. The other colored cords, corresponding to the different army branches, can be authorized by unit commanders to be worn during particular events.

I was authorized to wear the Gold GAFET, however, not in official DA photos......I do not know if it is still authorized for wear on the dress uniforms, or if it is now just the badge alone.
 
Damn... The Army gives decorations for everything...

That's exactly what my son says; he's a two tour Iraq vet. Infantry platoon leader first tour. Battle Captain second tour. He resents backwater soldiers now getting decorations, awards, insignia that were once reserved for front line soldiers.
The green beret used to mean something. Had to be earned, by a few. Now it means nothing.
 
What you are describing sounds like the French Croix De Guerre. We in the 82nd ABN were authorized to wear the unit decoration as a rope on the right shoulder.

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I can’t find a link to the 2ID award, although 2ID was at Belleau Wood in the War to End All Wars.

Yeah that's it.
 
What you are describing sounds like the French Croix De Guerre. We in the 82nd ABN were authorized to wear the unit decoration as a rope on the right shoulder.

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I can’t find a link to the 2ID award, although 2ID was at Belleau Wood in the War to End All Wars.

2ID was awarded the fourragere for other actions.

Fourragere - Wikipedia
 
That's exactly what my son says; he's a two tour Iraq vet. Infantry platoon leader first tour. Battle Captain second tour. He resents backwater soldiers now getting decorations, awards, insignia that were once reserved for front line soldiers.
The green beret used to mean something. Had to be earned, by a few. Now it means nothing.

Mine was a half hearted swipe at all the additional lettuce on the average Army uniform.
 
That's exactly what my son says; he's a two tour Iraq vet. Infantry platoon leader first tour. Battle Captain second tour. He resents backwater soldiers now getting decorations, awards, insignia that were once reserved for front line soldiers.
The green beret used to mean something. Had to be earned, by a few. Now it means nothing.

The beret is French and it's made in China so that's two strikes against it.

The US armed forces don't need to emulate the French in anything and the beret for all troops is the worst idea since the Maginot Line. It's ugly and it's stupid. Trump needs to cancel the contract with China or at the least not renew it.

In 2011 the Army Uniform Board Headgear Task Force at the Pentagon voted almost unanimously to ditch the black beret for all troops in favor of the Stetson hat. The hat would have the soldier's rank and a cord and color indicating branch of the Army, in the case of the general, Armor, which is considered Cavalry technically and historically.

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The Task Force considered the Stetson the perfect fit for the blue standard wear uniform that had been adopted in 2009. Sgt. Maj. Bob S. Stone the Task Force president said simply, "It's been a while since we have changed the headgear, so it's time. Plus a Stetson is functional and down right American."



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The adoption of the stetson as the official headgear of the Army harks back to a time when Soldiers lead the push across the rivers, plains, mountains and valleys of the Western frontier. (Photo Credit: U.S. Army graphic)


Nothing much ever came of the vote of the Task Force however as the Armor branch fiercely opposed losing its unique status of having the Stetson as their own headgear. Many believe it was the general in the photo who said off the record, "Why in the heck are they doing to us what they did to the snake-eaters? If you ain't Cav, you ain't ought to be wearing a Cav hat. That just ain't right."


Standard headgear for the new Army Green standard wear uniform beginning next summer is the garrison cap (which has a few other names too Ha). The beret becomes optional as does the visor hat.


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Sgt. Maj. of the Army Dan Daily models the new Army Greens uniform at the Army-Navy Game in Philadelphia Dec. 8, 2018. Daily led the charge for the uniform change. The garrison cap will be the standard headgear with beret and visor cap optional.

Three new, optional jackets are authorized: a green tanker jacket, essentially a zip-front, water-resistant windbreaker; a brown leather bomber jacket, and the popular green “Ike” jacket, modeled after the cropped jacket made famous by Gen. Dwight Eisenhower during World War II. All soldiers will be issued a green all-weather, trench coat-style jacket with the new uniforms.


Stetson hat to be new Army standard headgear | Article | The United States Army
 
Maybe we shouldn't be "harkening back to a time when Soldiers lead the push across the rivers, plains, mountains and valleys of the Western frontier."

Because that time sucked ass.
 
That's exactly what my son says; he's a two tour Iraq vet. Infantry platoon leader first tour. Battle Captain second tour. He resents backwater soldiers now getting decorations, awards, insignia that were once reserved for front line soldiers. The green beret used to mean something. Had to be earned, by a few. Now it means nothing.

How terms have changed, we didn't have 'battle captains' and the 'back water soldiers' were REMFs, Pogueys, queer in the rear, civilians who know how to salute.... :peace
 
You're going to attack my parents?

It was joke, based on yours regarding Marines not knowing both their parents. Besides, it is your aunt and uncle he was talking about (joke)
 
The light colonel that was deposed today was wearing infantry lapel insignia. Also CIB and Ranger tab. My service was a long time ago, so I have forgotten the protocols. Is the right shoulder blue braided rope only worn by enlisted ranks?






Infantry blue cord - Wikipedia
The little box on the Wiki pages says both officers and enlisted can earn the cord.
 
It was joke, based on yours regarding Marines not knowing both their parents. Besides, it is your aunt and uncle he was talking about (joke)

It was a ****ing personal attack. Families are off limits.
 
That's exactly what my son says; he's a two tour Iraq vet. Infantry platoon leader first tour. Battle Captain second tour. He resents backwater soldiers now getting decorations, awards, insignia that were once reserved for front line soldiers.
The green beret used to mean something. Had to be earned, by a few. Now it means nothing.
How exactly does the green beret not mean anything anymore.
 
Maybe we shouldn't be "harkening back to a time when Soldiers lead the push across the rivers, plains, mountains and valleys of the Western frontier."

Because that time sucked ass.
You do realize that was a joke article correct?
 
It was a ****ing personal attack. Families are off limits.
Oh my God. It was a joke towards you because you insulted the Marines.

If your skin is this thin you probably shouldn't start the **** talking.
 
Oh my God. It was a joke towards you because you insulted the Marines.

If your skin is this thin you probably shouldn't start the **** talking.

It was a personal attack. Those kinds of "jokes" don't fly.
 
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