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[W:95]Infantry Shoulder Rope

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The light colonel that was deposed today was wearing infantry lapel insignia. Also CIB and Ranger tab. My service was a long time ago, so I have forgotten the protocols. Is the right shoulder blue braided rope only worn by enlisted ranks?






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Rexedgar said:
The light colonel that was deposed today was wearing infantry lapel insignia. Also CIB and Ranger tab. My service was a long time ago, so I have forgotten the protocols. Is the right shoulder blue braided rope only worn by enlisted ranks?






Infantry blue cord - Wikipedia
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Damn... The Army gives decorations for everything...
 
Rexedgar said:
The light colonel that was deposed today was wearing infantry lapel insignia. Also CIB and Ranger tab. My service was a long time ago, so I have forgotten the protocols. Is the right shoulder blue braided rope only worn by enlisted ranks?


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No, both enlisted and officers. Unless they've changed it.
 
It's same as it always has been in the Army, at least for the longest time. That is, U.S. Army infantry color is blue and infantry wear the blue shoulder cord on the standard wear uniform. The blue infantry cord is of course worn on the right shoulder of the uniform.

Infantry officers and enlisted wear the blue cord. The Army Artillery color is red and armor is gold, as is each shoulder cord, respectively.

Here we see Colonel Jason Garvey who was at the time commanding officer of the 3d Infantry Regiment The Old Guard of the Army escorting Barack Obama. The occasion was the armed forces joint Farewell to the Commander in Chief ceremony at Conmy Hall, Ft. Myer next to the Pentagon as Obama prepared to leave the office of Potus.

Col. Garvey wears the blue cord of the infantry as do all members of the infantry of the US Army who are authorized to do so. That's officers and enlisted personnel of the Army to include of course nco.

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In view is the Army Honor Guard and the Marine Corps Honor Guard as the then Potus Obama troops the line of the five platoons of the U.S. Armed Forces Honor Guard units in Washington DC.





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Army Colonel of Infantry commanding 3d Infantry Regiment The Old Guard of the Army and support staff advance the color guard in colonial era uniforms during ceremony on Summerall Field, Ft. Myer, Va. Infantry officers and enlisted personnel of infantry wear the blue cord at the right shoulder, blue being the official color of infantry in the US Army. A blue hat band also identifies the officer as being in Army Infantry.




Troops of 3d Infantry Regiment march to the change of command ceremony for chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, held at Ft. Myer next to Pentagon and involving a platoon of all five services of the U.S. armed forces. The blue cord of U.S. Army Infantry at the right shoulder is clearly visible on the standard wear uniform of the Army for officers and enlisted personnel.

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Fledermaus said:
Damn... The Army gives decorations for everything...
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Ropes help define the various combat arms and having worn the blue rope myself I can assure you that they earn the right.
 
Casper said:
Ropes help define the various combat arms and having worn the blue rope myself I can assure you that they earn the right.
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The infantry is the only branch of arms that wears a rope.
 
Casper said:
Artillery wears red, thought you would know that.
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I didn’t know this.....


Only for specific events...

The Army Shoulder Cord is intended to be worn on the Class A dress green or dress blue uniform jacket or Class B shirt. According to the most recent version of the Army Regulation 670-1 (AR 670-1), the blue infantry cord is the only shoulder cord currently authorized for wear on any Army uniform. The other colored cords, corresponding to the different army branches, can be authorized by unit commanders to be worn during particular events.
 
What’s the significance of the unit patch worn on the right breast pocket of Class ‘A’s?

I’ve seen 25th ID, 3rd ID etc.


See pics in post #5.
 
Rexedgar said:
I didn’t know this.....


Only for specific events...

The Army Shoulder Cord is intended to be worn on the Class A dress green or dress blue uniform jacket or Class B shirt. According to the most recent version of the Army Regulation 670-1 (AR 670-1), the blue infantry cord is the only shoulder cord currently authorized for wear on any Army uniform. The other colored cords, corresponding to the different army branches, can be authorized by unit commanders to be worn during particular events.
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Because it isn't true. The only branch specific cord mentioned in AR 670-1 is the blue cord for infantry. I stand corrected on the orange cord for ordnance corps soldiers.

Pages 39 and 40...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjANegQICRAC&usg=AOvVaw2-sWtAt2duEi55vFCHaMSM
 
Rexedgar said:
What’s the significance of the unit patch worn on the right breast pocket of Class ‘A’s?

I’ve seen 25th ID, 3rd ID etc.


See pics in post #5.
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It's their combat unit. Sleeve insignia isn't authorized for dress blues, but they allow the insignia for the soldier's combat unit to be worn on the right pocket. Remember soldiers wearing their "combat patch" on the right sleeve?
 
Authorized cords include the French Fourragere, the Belgian Fourragere and the Netherlands Orange Lanyard. There are also gold Aiguillettes worn by White House Aides and the blue infantry cord that was first issued in 1952 to the 3rd Infantry Regiment, Old Guard of the Army, as were the blue lapel disks. Anything else are Rotc, military school, band, or fantasy.

L to R:

Engineers

Military Police

Artillery

Military Intelligence (blue and silver/grey)

Medical Corps

Quartermaster Corps

Signal Corps


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Red tag with white border is Wolf-Brown Inc. the maker of military wear till they closed up shop some considerable time ago.

The cords in the photo are not inclusive or exhaustive of U.S. military cords.
 
Tangmo said:
Authorized cords include the French Fourragere, the Belgian Fourragere and the Netherlands Orange Lanyard. There are also gold Aiguillettes worn by White House Aides and the blue infantry cord that was first issued in 1952 to the 3rd Infantry Regiment, Old Guard of the Army, as were the blue lapel disks. Anything else are Rotc, military school, band, or fantasy.

L to R:

Engineers

Military Police

Artillery

Military Intelligence (blue and silver/grey)

Medical Corps

Quartermaster Corps

Signal Corps


post-3742-0-63171500-1438270982.jpg



Red tag with white border is Wolf-Brown Inc. the maker of military wear till they closed up shop some considerable time ago.

The cords in the photo are not inclusive or exhaustive of U.S. military cords.
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Ar 670-1 doesn't say anything about any of that.

The Fourragere is a unit award.
 
apdst said:
Ar 670-1 doesn't say anything about any of that.

The Fourragere is a unit award.
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There are many unit awards in the Army. In the Army especially.

Marine Corps is small enough and concentrated enough to practice a corps wide espirit de corps. While Army is deployed globally Marines are mainly on the US east coast, west coast. Okinawa. In other words, Army is so much larger and broadly stationed globally it is much more difficult for 'em to have uniform service wide espirit de corps. So Army focuses on units and their history, record of combat, their reputation as units and so on as units.

Ordinary Americans recognize Army distinguished units of division size such as the 82nd Airborne, 101st Airborne, the Big Red One (1st Infantry Division that went in first at Normandy), The Fighting 69th, 10th Mountain Division, Patton's Third Army which was characterized by armor.

More recently there's Delta Force, 5th Special Forces Group, Special Ops Command and so on. The Navy itself is huge also so there's Halsey's Third Fleet, the present day 7th Fleet in the western Pacific-Asia, aircraft carrier strike forces, the silent service of nasty subs, Navy Seals and so on and so on.

Marines are the Marines as in all of 'em. Virtually everything about USMC is about, well, the USMC. In other words very few ordinary Americans jump up and whoop for the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force per se. Or the 3rd Marine Division. Americans and others globally know any group of Marines coming at you is bad news for you, yet few Americans can think in specific terms about the 3rd Marine Expeditionary Force. Marines can recite through a squared lunch about any of 'em or all of 'em, but Americans recognize Jim Bowie at the Alamo and Marines planting the flag on Iwo Jima rather than readily recognize Marine units and their battles.

And here I'd thought you were in the Army -- Infantry besides and that you knew this happy stuff. Yet it sounds like your unit had citations you still don't know about which is a shame indeed because in the Army that's a big faux pas. Wouldn't it be something if you had to join the Marines as punishment for it.
 
Tangmo said:
There are many unit awards in the Army. In the Army especially.

Marine Corps is small enough and concentrated enough to practice a corps wide espirit de corps. While Army is deployed globally Marines are mainly on the US east coast, west coast. Okinawa. In other words, Army is so much larger and broadly stationed globally it is much more difficult for 'em to have uniform service wide espirit de corps. So Army focuses on units and their history, record of combat, their reputation as units and so on as units.

Ordinary Americans recognize Army distinguished units of division size such as the 82nd Airborne, 101st Airborne, the Big Red One (1st Infantry Division that went in first at Normandy), The Fighting 69th, 10th Mountain Division, Patton's Third Army which was characterized by armor.

More recently there's Delta Force, 5th Special Forces Group, Special Ops Command and so on. The Navy itself is huge also so there's Halsey's Third Fleet, the present day 7th Fleet in the western Pacific-Asia, aircraft carrier strike forces, the silent service of nasty subs, Navy Seals and so on and so on.

Marines are the Marines as in all of 'em. Virtually everything about USMC is about, well, the USMC. In other words very few ordinary Americans jump up and whoop for the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force per se. Or the 3rd Marine Division. Americans and others globally know any group of Marines coming at you is bad news for you, yet few Americans can think in specific terms about the 3rd Marine Expeditionary Force. Marines can recite through a squared lunch about any of 'em or all of 'em, but Americans recognize Jim Bowie at the Alamo and Marines planting the flag on Iwo Jima rather than readily recognize Marine units and their battles.

And here I'd thought you were in the Army -- Infantry besides and that you knew this happy stuff. Yet it sounds like your unit had citations you still don't know about which is a shame indeed because in the Army that's a big faux pas. Wouldn't it be something if you had to join the Marines as punishment for it.
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Huh?...lol. Where the **** did that come from? :lamo

You're the one falsely claiming that branch specific cords are authorized for non-infantry branches of arms. :lamo

The only branch identifying cord mentioned in AR 670-1 is the blue cord for infantry soldiers.

P.S. I tried to join the Corps but they wouldn't take me because I knew both my parents.
 
apdst said:
Huh?...lol. Where the **** did that come from? :lamo

You're the one falsely claiming that branch specific cords are authorized for non-infantry branches of arms. :lamo

The only branch identifying cord mentioned in AR 670-1 is the blue cord for infantry soldiers.

P.S. I tried to join the Corps but they wouldn't take me because I knew both my parents.
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Tangmo is using the patented "Wall-O-****" gambit.
 
apdst said:
Huh?...lol. Where the **** did that come from? :lamo

You're the one falsely claiming that branch specific cords are authorized for non-infantry branches of arms. :lamo

The only branch identifying cord mentioned in AR 670-1 is the blue cord for infantry soldiers.

P.S. I tried to join the Corps but they wouldn't take me because I knew both my parents.
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You'd need to present the specific statement I made that you're referring to in your extremely active imagination.

What has instead been established at the thread collectively is that other branches or corps of the Army may wear the shoulder cord on the specific authorization only of the unit commander.

That is, while Infantry are authorized to wear the blue cord anytime or all the time, Artillery troops need specific authorization to wear the red cord of Artillery. Same for Armor troops wearing the gold shoulder cord of armor. Same for all 14 Army branch services and corps.

I'm confident the folks at the thread recognize only Infantry is authorized to wear its blue infantry shoulder cord on the dress uniform and the standard wear uniform 24/7 and 365. So whatever you're on about you're off on it.

Given you still don't know your unit's history, distinctions, awards, me still thinks you ought to be required to join the Marines. It would be party time for sure. :2wave:
 
Tangmo said:
You'd need to present the specific statement I made that you're referring to in your extremely active imagination.

What has instead been established at the thread collectively is that other branches or corps of the Army may wear the shoulder cord on the specific authorization only of the unit commander.

That is, while Infantry are authorized to wear the blue cord anytime or all the time, Artillery troops need specific authorization to wear the red cord of Artillery. Same for Armor troops wearing the gold shoulder cord of armor. Same for all 14 Army branch services and corps.

I'm confident the folks at the thread recognize only Infantry is authorized to wear its blue infantry shoulder cord on the dress uniform and the standard wear uniform 24/7 and 365. So whatever you're on about you're off on it.

Given you still don't know your unit's history, distinctions, awards, me still thinks you ought to be required to join the Marines. It would be party time for sure. :2wave:
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You should really stop posting about this, now. No ****. :lamo

Local commanders can't change the regulations and infantry soldiers only wear the rope on their dress uniform and class A & B, not on their ACU's (or whatever they call them now)
 
apdst said:
You should really stop posting about this, now. No ****. :lamo

Local commanders can't change the regulations and infantry soldiers only wear the rope on their dress uniform and class A & B, not on their ACU's (or whatever they call them now)
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Department of Army devised modern period regs on cords to put a stop to this:

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The red, white and black fourragere was a Royal Canadian Air Force award but was incorporated by U.S. Army commanders in Germany into the standard uniform items widely worn by US Army troops serving on occupation duty in Germany after World War II. It was unauthorized but worn during the several years of the occupation after a US Army general in Germany liked it and said it was okay to do. It shows the official colors of the city of Berlin. DoA devised new regulations to control this type of unauthorized use of militaria.




"Whatever they call 'em now" is the same as whatever and everything you're posting now.

In other words you're pulling it down out of the infantry cord blue. You're reading and reciting regs rotely because you are uninitiated and uninformed about the color coded branch cord in the Army. You're thereby compounding your uninitiation to your own infantry unit's citations, distinctions, awards yet you're trying to carry on about Army policy on the branch cord.

It's clear you missed the part about unit commanders of branches and corps other than infantry being authorized to order that the cord and its respective color be worn for a specific reason or occasion, just not normally and certainly not day in and day out. The regs do state infantry branch only is authorized to wear the blue cord as specified in the regs 24/7 and 365.
 
When I was in Korea I was authorized to wear a green cord. Kinda wish I had the chance to actually wear it.
 
"United States Army Branch Specific Shoulder Cords

Criteria: The Army Shoulder Cord is intended to be worn on the Class A dress green or dress blue uniform jacket or Class B shirt. According to the most recent version of the Army Regulation 670-1 (AR 670-1), the blue infantry cord is the only shoulder cord currently authorized for wear on any Army uniform. The other colored cords, corresponding to the different army branches, can be authorized by unit commanders to be worn during particular events."

Army Shoulder Cords | USAMM
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I was 11B so I don't know anything about the other cords, but according to the above quote I found other cords can be worn if authorized by unit commanders for a specific event. True or not, I don't know.
 
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