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'There is blood on Trump's hands for abandoning our Kurdish allies

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Retired Marine Gen. John Allen: 'There is blood on Trump's hands for abandoning our Kurdish allies'

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A retired four-star Marine general on Sunday bluntly criticized President Donald Trump over the ongoing Turkish military offensive in northern Syria, saying, "There is blood on Trump's hands for abandoning our Kurdish allies." Gen. John Allen, the former commander of American forces in Afghanistan and former special presidential envoy for the Global Coalition to Counter ISIS under the Obama administration, told CNN the unfolding crisis in Syria was "completely foreseeable" and "the US green-lighted it." "There was no chance (Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan) Erdogan would keep his promise, and full blown ethnic cleansing is underway by Turkish supported militias," he said. "This is what happens when Trump follows his instincts and because of his alignment with autocrats. I said there would be blood, but could not have imagined this outcome," added Allen. Trump has ordered the remaining US forces out of northern Syria, Defense Secretary Mark Esper said Sunday, a development that has paralyzed the fight against ISIS and ceded US and Kurdish battlefield gains to Moscow and Damascus.

Prior to Turkey's offensive last week, as a confidence building measure with the country, the US convinced the Syrian Kurds to dismantle their defensive fortifications along the border and pull their fighters back. The US said Turkey had agreed to the arrangement which sought to prevent unilateral Turkish military action. Trump then had the Pentagon pull back US troops along that part of the border. The part of Syria that's now under attack has been controlled by the Syrian Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD) and the armed Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG), a defense force mostly made up of Kurds. Now, neighboring Turkey has launched a military operation to move the Kurds away from its border and the frequently targeted ethnic group is once again under attack. Kurdish forces guarding a US military base in northern Syria told CNN they feel they've been betrayed by their American allies after Trump cleared the way for a Turkish operation against them. The extent of the Turkish military offense has been laid bare in a string of online videos that appear to showcase the violence on the ground -- including footage that reportedly shows Turkish-backed militia fighters shooting Kurdish prisoners.

Truth to power. Thank you General Allen for the blunt honesty.
 
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"His speech, which stressed US military power and a robust armed forces, was interrupted repeatedly by cheers of "No more war!" from the packed convention hall. "


From the following paragraph: “Chants of "USA! USA!" quickly sprung up to drown out a small anti-war crowd.........”

So, what’s your point?
 
From the following paragraph: “Chants of "USA! USA!" quickly sprung up to drown out a small anti-war crowd.........”

So, what’s your point?

So you are advocating war? Interesting.
 
So you are advocating war? Interesting.

You’ve been here long enough to know to read past the part that you think makes your argument. Fifteen years? I would have thought you would read your entire source before linking it and cherry-picking a quote!
 

I too am against what the president did. Saying that not sure what the right answer would be. Does anyone know if Turkey was determined to go in and allowed the U.S. to get out of the way? Would anyone say that a full scale war against a NATO ally would be the right thing to do to defend the Kurds.

While I could not vote for a person who left the Kurds to be killed I will admit it was a tough spot. Trump showed his lack of character IMO by not standing up to the Turks.
 

Everyone campaigns on “No more stupid, useless wars”, then the military industrial wallet gets hold on them and two year “peace keeping” turns into a twenty year occupation.

Trump did what he promised. I’m shocked! Shocked that a politician kept a promise! I must vote against him because I work in a bullet factory.

Gee, a general who likes war. No **** Sherlock. You don’t get promoted for performance except during a war. The rest of the time it’s political.
 
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You’ve been here long enough to know to read past the part that you think makes your argument. Fifteen years? I would have thought you would read your entire source before linking it and cherry-picking a quote!

You are reading too much into it. I say "it" because that allows you to freely dive deeply into the sewage of the brain and come up with whatever you like.
 
I too am against what the president did. Saying that not sure what the right answer would be. Does anyone know if Turkey was determined to go in and allowed the U.S. to get out of the way? Would anyone say that a full scale war against a NATO ally would be the right thing to do to defend the Kurds.

While I could not vote for a person who left the Kurds to be killed I will admit it was a tough spot. Trump showed his lack of character IMO by not standing up to the Turks.

Technically he could have just said dont come over and killed all those that crossed the border into Kurdish lands. Is that what you were advocating?

Hes hitting them in the wallet right now.

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Gee, a general who likes war. No **** Sherlock. You don’t get promoted for performance except during a war. The rest of the time it’s political.

He is retired. Can't you even read the thread title? Geezus.
 
He is retired. Can't you even read the thread title? Geezus.

Only thing Allen can do is advance “time in grade.” We haven’t done five stars for some time......
 
I too am against what the president did. Saying that not sure what the right answer would be. Does anyone know if Turkey was determined to go in and allowed the U.S. to get out of the way? Would anyone say that a full scale war against a NATO ally would be the right thing to do to defend the Kurds.

While I could not vote for a person who left the Kurds to be killed I will admit it was a tough spot. Trump showed his lack of character IMO by not standing up to the Turks.

Not standing up to the Turks also means standing up for the US soldiers who would have died standing up to the Turks?

The US is not made more secure by sending troops off to die in Syria.
 
read past the part that you think makes your argument!

So in your mind..... What argument did you imagine I was making?

I say this in light of the fact that I added no personal commentary whatsoever.
 
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