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    Re: The Inside Story Of How The Army Reduced Standards To Get Women Through Ranger Training

    I have seen some guys that needed two trips to haul their gear to a jet and women that were able to throw a ladder over their shoulder and haul their gear to a spot and would kick you if you offered to help. Im not saying there arent men that havent failed in the field. Im not saying all women would. I am saying that if you are in Ranger training, there is a reason for that and it has nothing to do with just getting the merit badge. At some point its entirely likely you might have to be leading people on the field of battle. And if you were in one of those squads (or your kids were) wouldnt you feel more comfortable knowing your leader EARNED their stripe and wasnt some glorified show pony?

    I also find it telling the number of people that would never deign themselves to enter the military service that think that women riding the short bus through Ranger training is OK.

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    Re: The Inside Story Of How The Army Reduced Standards To Get Women Through Ranger Training

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I have seen some guys that needed two trips to haul their gear to a jet and women that were able to throw a ladder over their shoulder and haul their gear to a spot and would kick you if you offered to help. Im not saying there arent men that havent failed in the field. Im not saying all women would. I am saying that if you are in Ranger training, there is a reason for that and it has nothing to do with just getting the merit badge. At some point its entirely likely you might have to be leading people on the field of battle. And if you were in one of those squads (or your kids were) wouldnt you feel more comfortable knowing your leader EARNED their stripe and wasnt some glorified show pony?

    I also find it telling the number of people that would never deign themselves to enter the military service that think that women riding the short bus through Ranger training is OK.
    Actually getting the merit badge as you called it one of the math reasons to to Ranger School. Having a Ranger tab, depending on your MOS,can be great for promotion and for the officer world that's even more true.

    And just because you are in Ranger School does not in any way shape or form mean that there is a reason for you to be there. In most of the Army slots are given for a wide variety or reasons. Everything from a reward for doing something well to requesting at as part of your reenlistment.
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    Re: The Inside Story Of How The Army Reduced Standards To Get Women Through Ranger Training

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    Actually getting the merit badge as you called it one of the math reasons to to Ranger School. Having a Ranger tab, depending on your MOS,can be great for promotion and for the officer world that's even more true.

    And just because you are in Ranger School does not in any way shape or form mean that there is a reason for you to be there. In most of the Army slots are given for a wide variety or reasons. Everything from a reward for doing something well to requesting at as part of your reenlistment.
    I believe the point is that Ranger School isnt just something fun to do on the weekend and those that go have certain levels of expectation, both of themselves and the effort they will have to extend and of their fellow graduates.

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