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    Re: Navy seal medic admitts in court to murdering teen ISIS member

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    I haven't voiced an objection to anything here, just mentioned how the Canadian government responded to a wartime atrocity. Personally, I'd say disbanding the CAR was an overreaction but there were other things going on at the time. I can't remember if the personnel involved were charged or not.
    I hope they were. It's a lot more important to prosecute criminals than disband units or change their name.

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    Re: Navy seal medic admitts in court to murdering teen ISIS member

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    I never understand why people expect human beings to be psychologically immune to the effects of being hired to do a job like the Seals do. They're elite killers. That's the job they've been trained and tasked with accomplishing. We send them out to fight ISIS, a group with absolutely no moral code- they rape women, murder children, use drugs, practice religious based executions, film themselves lighting caged humans on fire.... What outcome do we expect here, that Navy Seals should be immune to the psychological toll of fighting the worst sub-humans on earth? It's unrealistic. How many tours did Gallagher embark on before going psycho?
    You can be an operator without devolving into murdering civilians and ultimately assisting in the radicalization of the native population.
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    Re: Navy seal medic admitts in court to murdering teen ISIS member

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    You can be an operator without devolving into murdering civilians and ultimately assisting in the radicalization of the native population.
    Absolutely, and most are. But every so often, one of our own goes rogue, and becomes completely psychotic. Maybe that should be studied, and we should consider whether or not we're asking too much of our men by having them deploy dozens of times to a war zone that most Americans forgot about years ago.

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    Re: Navy seal medic admitts in court to murdering teen ISIS member

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    Absolutely, and most are.
    Most don't get caught. The SEALs in particular have a deeply systematic, toxic culture that dissuades from reporting war crimes.

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    But every so often, one of our own goes rogue, and becomes completely psychotic.
    It's a feature, not a bug.

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    Maybe that should be studied, and we should consider whether or not we're asking too much of our men by having them deploy dozens of times to a war zone that most Americans forgot about years ago.
    Or hear me out, the SEALs get rid of the culture that encourages a belief that a trident on their Dress Whites makes them above international law. Are deployments to combat zones stressful? Absolutely. Are they even more stressful for SOF groups like SF, SEALs, or MARSOC? Absolutely. However, they still need to hold themselves accountable for their actions. At the end of the day, groups like the SEALs tackle high-risk operations that are needed to win the war. We cannot win the war if the very same people we train and equip to take on those high-level ops go out of their way to photograph themselves with dead teenage militants, piss on dead bodies, murder fellow operators, and so on.
    The GOP loves standards. They love standards so much, they got two of them.

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    Re: Navy seal medic admitts in court to murdering teen ISIS member

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexedgar View Post
    I’m not bashing the military, that being said, I flew from San Diego to BWI many years ago. I tend to sit in the rear of the plane, not like you get there faster in the front. The two seats in front of me were occupied by two self described Seals. As they tried to drink the plane’s supply of beer up, their conduct deteriorated. As I exited, I commented, “ I thought you guys were better than this.”

    Old joke: How can you identify a Seal in a bar? Just wait, he’ll tell you.
    I don't possess the same hard feelings as some in this thread, but all special forces troops are spoiled brats and SEALS are the worst.
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    Re: Navy seal medic admitts in court to murdering teen ISIS member

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't possess the same hard feelings as some in this thread, but all special forces troops are spoiled brats and SEALS are the worst.
    Oh look APDST is once again showing that he has no idea what he is talking about.

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    Re: Navy seal medic admitts in court to murdering teen ISIS member

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Maxine told her dirty followers to search out republicans in restaurants and other public places and to get in their faces with the most hateful disrespect they can muster, because that is what the heathen do who do not know and obey God. Our armed forces are made up with an assortment of good and bad people and it is not right for our soldiers to give a violent ISIS murderer what is coming to him, but some just cannot help it. They grieve over things like girl slaves' heads piled in a school for foreign fighters to find after ISIS has been driven out. Humans can take only so much. We need to try harder to keep our troops from getting emotional about the atrocities of enemy fighters they are forced to deal with.
    How does your god get around the thou shall not kill thingy?
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    Re: Navy seal medic admitts in court to murdering teen ISIS member

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    Oh look APDST is once again showing that he has no idea what he is talking about.
    I know exactly what I'm talking about. Do you?
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    Re: Navy seal medic admitts in court to murdering teen ISIS member

    Quote Originally Posted by bongsaway View Post
    How does your god get around the thou shall not kill thingy?
    What do you mean "get around death?" You do know that 10,000 people die every day just in America, don't you? Death is not the end of the story and God is perfectly capable of dealing with it on earth.

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    Re: Navy seal medic admitts in court to murdering teen ISIS member

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexedgar View Post
    I’m not bashing the military, that being said, I flew from San Diego to BWI many years ago. I tend to sit in the rear of the plane, not like you get there faster in the front. The two seats in front of me were occupied by two self described Seals. As they tried to drink the plane’s supply of beer up, their conduct deteriorated. As I exited, I commented, “ I thought you guys were better than this.”

    Old joke: How can you identify a Seal in a bar? Just wait, he’ll tell you.
    Funny. And Canadian SF are never identified and not allowed to have their pictures taken. Like I said elsewhere here, President Bush gave JTF2 a Presidential Unit Citation at a time when the Canadian government was still not acknowledging they were in Afghanistan.
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