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West Point graduates the largest class ever of African-American women.

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West Point's class of 2019 includes historic number of African-American women

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West Point graduates the largest class ever of African-American women.

Well done ladies and Godspeed.
 
*shrugs*

All I see are Officers and Soldiers. I never see the point of things like this, to be honest.

What would people think if I posted a picture of only white men, with a statement it was the largest group of white men to graduate? Or Mexican-Americans? Or any other group?

I for one never cared for such demographic claims. We are all Americans, that is all that should ever matter.
 
*shrugs*

All I see are Officers and Soldiers. I never see the point of things like this, to be honest.

What would people think if I posted a picture of only white men, with a statement it was the largest group of white men to graduate? Or Mexican-Americans? Or any other group?

I for one never cared for such demographic claims. We are all Americans, that is all that should ever matter.

Ya know, if you don't have anything nice to say and all that. Silence is golden.
 
*shrugs*

All I see are Officers and Soldiers. I never see the point of things like this, to be honest.

What would people think if I posted a picture of only white men, with a statement it was the largest group of white men to graduate? Or Mexican-Americans? Or any other group?

I for one never cared for such demographic claims. We are all Americans, that is all that should ever matter.


There were decades of pictures of only white men. It is truly a case of "you've come a long way, baby" for this bastion of privilege and prestige to have so many people in the class who wouldn't have been considered for admission to West Point 50 years ago.
 
Well done ladies.

imo, the news media by emphasizing race and gender in stories aids in keeping us divided. I am with Oozlefinc on this. I see soldiers who have graduated. Hopefully they will lead the military well.
 
Well done ladies.

imo, the news media by emphasizing race and gender in stories aids in keeping us divided. I am with Oozlefinc on this. I see soldiers who have graduated. Hopefully they will lead the military well.


You a politician? You straddle a mean fence!
 
Frankly, I care not about what color their skin is, or which reproductive organs they possess. My question is: Are these the courageous, honorable and strong leaders our military needs. Will they have the strength and sense of purpose, and dedication to the mission to make the difficult decisions military leaders must?
 
You a politician? You straddle a mean fence!

Nope. Just sick of seeing stories being reported like that. We are all Americans. Doesn't matter to me what color a person is. I would hope the country can get past the skin color of people. imo, the ladies accomplishment of graduating is no more important than the others in the graduating class.
 
West Point's class of 2019 includes historic number of African-American women

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West Point graduates the largest class ever of African-American women.

Well done ladies and Godspeed.

Congratulations to all these women. I hope they all end up being great leaders and do well for the soldiers who serve under them.

That said I also noticed that a couple of them look rather out of shape. Hopefully that's not the case. The last thing the Army needs is more Soldiers who can't meet standards.
Be that physical fitness or proficiency at their job.
 
Nope. Just sick of seeing stories being reported like that. We are all Americans.

Yes. But Americans can also recognize modern accomplishment arising from the dregs of American history.
 
Except they are not uniform and lack covers. The high heels and swords are a nice touch though.

Actually, they are.

The regulations state that unless it is specified one way or another, the individual can choose to wear a skirt or slacks. Both are considered the same.

And interestingly, I have seen both come under fire when I was in the Marines. One event we had at Lejeune with the Silent Drill Team mandated "Dress Blues or Class A with Skirt" for women, and many complained about that. Saw another event a year later that mandated the same but with slacks, others then complained about that.

I say treat it like "Business Attire" in the professional world, unless it is a formal function like a military ball. Slacks or skirt is acceptable in either.
 
There were decades of pictures of only white men. It is truly a case of "you've come a long way, baby" for this bastion of privilege and prestige to have so many people in the class who wouldn't have been considered for admission to West Point 50 years ago.

And that was how long ago? The first black man to graduate from Annapolis was in 1949. The first from West Point was in 1877. Women at Annapolis in 1972, at West Point in 1980.

Even the most recent of these events was almost 40 years ago.

One thing that bothers the hell out of me is that myself, I only see "Green". In the military, there is no color, we are all the same. I only barely notice gender, mostly because I have to segregate them. Otherwise, they are the same as anybody else.

Take a picture of my section at my last unit, most would likely have seen "4 white guys, 1 white gal". Never mind that such would have been grossly untrue (only 2 of the 5 were actually "white"). In my current section, most would probably be confused. 1 white guy, 1 Indian (India), 1 Indian (America), 1 Filipino, and 1 black guy. The black guy and I have almost the same complexion, and with selection of background I could probably make us both pass for white in a photo. The guy from India would probably look like he was Hispanic.

To me, none of that ever mattered. We are green, wear the same uniform.

This is why I simply can not understand the way that so many obsesses over such a stupid thing such a race, or where our great-great grandparents came from. It is all stupid, and petty, and I do not even see the point discussing it.
 
It is all stupid, and petty, and I do not even see the point discussing it.

Who said anything about discussion? I just posted it in here because it made the national headlines.

That, and I knew that it would jack-up some fragile ego's in here.
 
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Uniforms look Confederate to me. Jefferson Davis wouldn't like that photo. :lol:
 
1,250 or so graduates each year.

I don't like the photo - a lot.

What did they do next, say "ok, all Asian male cadets next - and all you white guys get over on those stadium benches!" as they divide and group everyone by race and sex.

I have no problem with announcing a record number of female black graduates. Glad to hear it. But I have a real problem with grouping them together for this photo. Are they now all going to be put into black-only military units since apparently that is how the military saw it for this photo?
 
Congratulations to all these women. I hope they all end up being great leaders and do well for the soldiers who serve under them.

That said I also noticed that a couple of them look rather out of shape. Hopefully that's not the case. The last thing the Army needs is more Soldiers who can't meet standards.
Be that physical fitness or proficiency at their job.

Yes, all those women are destined to be infantry combat soldiers and we all know the reason the USA beat Germany in WW2 was because our soldiers were in better shape. Unfortunately, the Viet Cong were obviously in better shape than our troops. :roll:
 
Yes, all those women are destined to be infantry combat soldiers and we all know the reason the USA beat Germany in WW2 was because our soldiers were in better shape. Unfortunately, the Viet Cong were obviously in better shape than our troops. :roll:

I am sorry you don't understand standards and why they are important. But that's not my problem
 
I am sorry you don't understand standards and why they are important. But that's not my problem

What I understand is modern warfare and how now battle or war is won by who would win a track meet or arm wrestling contest. If the military operated your way, our troops would have bronze swords with wooden shields. One super geek in a wheelchair could kill an entire army of your troops - who'd never know that hit them or where it came from. No, our best fighting force would not be a force of trained gorillas capable of lifting 1500 pounds lead by wrestling champ high school dropouts.

Sorry you still live in the 18th century.
 
My oldest kid is in the military and been in both theaters of combat repeated - and in combat elsewhere. Certainly does meet physical standards and likely could beat you into the ground, despite numerous permanent combat injuries. But also is a super duper geek with nothing of physical ability having anything to do with combat or killing ability whatsoever. Wars are not won by riflemen anymore despite you believing that is all there is.

Strong stupid people have reason to think intelligence and knowledge doesn't matter.
 
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