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West Point graduates the largest class ever of African-American women.

Hell, he would probably laugh his ass off at me. I am a 21 year Sergeant.

Of course, my career was very unusual. I got Corporal in just over 2 years (very fast in the Cold War Marine Corps), then sat there for ages. I was at almost 6 when I got in trouble, went back to E-3. Got my 4 back a year later, then got injured. I sat the next 3 years on medical hold (and in the Corps at that time this meant you were not promotable - even though I had the points). Was discharged at 10 as a Corporal.

Then I joined the Army 14 years later, as a PFC (E-3). 5 years later was a Promotable Specialist, but RCP caught me before I could get the points. I was where I should be as a SPC(P) at 5 years, but the prior 10 made me actually 15 years. Then I rotated to the Reserves, where promotions are based also on the slots a unit has available. And for 3 years, they would free up a slot by moving people around in my MOS to other positions, only to have the Recruiting Command send us another Sergeant the moment the opening appeared in the system. I finally had to rotate out of my unit in order to get promoted (along with 3 other senior Specialists in the exact same situation and MOS).

But I should have Staff Sergeant by this time next year, and hope to get Sergeant First Class by the time I retire. Thankfully, in the Reserves things like time for rank are not major considerations to being able to stay in. I can retire at any time, in fact I reenlisted last year even though I was already over my 20. But I enjoy serving, and will stay in as long as I can.

How old are you?
 
Readers might find it informative to know Gunnery Sergeant E-7 retired Fledermaus was never a Master Gunnery Sergeant E-9.

The E-7 NCO Fledermaus never got anywhere near that far or high up -- that is, Master Gunnery Sergeant E-9.

While there is no such rank or grade title as junior gunnery sergeant, that is de facto what Fledermaus was in USMC. G/SGT E-7 Fledermaus was in support services instead as a Fleet Marine. Fledermaus was not Marine Corps Infantry.

Another shortcoming is that Gunnery Sergeant E-7 retired Fledermaus is not qualified or competent to teach Military Science subjects to high school cadets of Marine Corps Junior Rotc. Indeed, the record number of African American 2019 2LT graduates of USMA already outrank Fledermaus and they've been outperforming him for some considerable time besides.

And you never even made it through basic training.

You probably should realize just how pathetic you look and slink back to your cadet thread that know one cares about.
 
Colin Powell reiterated just the other day that his performance at the UN over WMD in Iraq is a permanent blot on his record. Powell of course served in Vietnam and was a part of the officer corps that built the AVF that gave us Desert Storm. So it's not that Powell was an incompetent general or some kind of buffoon.

Powell's story is that he did spend nearly a decade in Republican party governments, working for Reagan and for Bush 41. Powell's retirement came soon after Clinton defeated Bush. Powell was national security adviser to Reagan in the WH and it was during Powell's Republican Party decade that he kept getting more stars on his shoulders.

So many people saw it as Powell being a WH Negro for white conservative wealthy Republicans. And as I'd said, Powell was not incompetent. It's just that he looked so good in his uniform and while serving tea in the WH. And he said, "Yes, sir" with such authority.

Colin Powell, the first Rotc grad to become chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's been true for a long time that there are two kind of generals. One is the general's general, such as "Stormin" Norman Schwarzkopf....George Patton comes to mind of course among many others too numerous to name....Winfield Scott and so on. Then there are the political generals such as Colin Powell....and George McClellan among many others to include Mark Clark etc.

Now however we have the Super NCO who came upon us post 9/11. The E-6 and E-7 sergeants who don't need any generals or officers of any commissioning source, education, competence and expertise. Rather, sergeant major academy is the place to be during contemporary times. This is the same AVF whose only wins during recent decades have occurred in their electing Republican Party presidents.
 
Colin Powell reiterated just the other day that his performance at the UN over WMD in Iraq is a permanent blot on his record. Powell of course served in Vietnam and was a part of the officer corps that built the AVF that gave us Desert Storm. So it's not that Powell was an incompetent general or some kind of buffoon.

Powell's story is that he did spend nearly a decade in Republican party governments, working for Reagan and for Bush 41. Powell's retirement came soon after Clinton defeated Bush. Powell was national security adviser to Reagan in the WH and it was during Powell's Republican Party decade that he kept getting more stars on his shoulders.

So many people saw it as Powell being a WH Negro for white conservative wealthy Republicans. And as I'd said, Powell was not incompetent. It's just that he looked so good in his uniform and while serving tea in the WH. And he said, "Yes, sir" with such authority.

Colin Powell, the first Rotc grad to become chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's been true for a long time that there are two kind of generals. One is the general's general, such as "Stormin" Norman Schwarzkopf....George Patton comes to mind of course among many others too numerous to name....Winfield Scott and so on. Then there are the political generals such as Colin Powell....and George McClellan among many others to include Mark Clark etc.

Now however we have the Super NCO who came upon us post 9/11. The E-6 and E-7 sergeants who don't need any generals or officers of any commissioning source, education, competence and expertise. Rather, sergeant major academy is the place to be during contemporary times. This is the same AVF whose only wins during recent decades have occurred in their electing Republican Party presidents.

Now you are claiming the officer corps that according to you failed in Vietnam is to blame for the AVF that has, in your words, never won?

Weren't you blathering over and over again that Desert Storm was a loss?

And now you are moving goalposts to "post 9/11 NCOs"?

Aren't you tired of failing yet Sub-Privete E-0.Cadet Tangmo?
 
How old are you?

54.

And I was hardly unique. In 2007-2008, a lot of us middle aged with prior service took the plunge and jumped back in. And in most units in the mid to late 2000's, units were full of us middle aged guys and gals who had served in the 1980's (some in the 1970's) who returned to service. And because most of us had been out for so long, we came back in as PFCs.

One guy I did my training with for over 4 months was a PO-2 in the Navy (E-5), another had been a Staff Sergeant in the Army (E-6). Like me all had so much broken service that they returned as PFCs.

3 of those I knew later got cut when the RCP was changed in 2010. Out of all of those I kept track of who had returned (around 20), I am the last one in. Most got disgusted when the RCP was changed on them in the 2008-2010 troop cuts, and got out vowing to never return again. By that time I had 15 in, so spending another 5 in the Reserves was not a big deal. But there is no doubt we all felt betrayed when we returned when asked, only to be cut again a few years later.
 
Seeing as you can't honestly reiterate someone comments from a few minutes ago I doubt many will belive you when you talk about conversations that happened over years.

And speaking of things that need to be simplified, how hard is it to know that being taught the constitution in detail is not the same thing s learning the oath and what it means. Obviously for poor tangmo it's a bridge to far. No wonder you failed basic

The post is vacuous and absurd.
 
54.

And I was hardly unique. In 2007-2008, a lot of us middle aged with prior service took the plunge and jumped back in. And in most units in the mid to late 2000's, units were full of us middle aged guys and gals who had served in the 1980's (some in the 1970's) who returned to service. And because most of us had been out for so long, we came back in as PFCs.

One guy I did my training with for over 4 months was a PO-2 in the Navy (E-5), another had been a Staff Sergeant in the Army (E-6). Like me all had so much broken service that they returned as PFCs.

3 of those I knew later got cut when the RCP was changed in 2010. Out of all of those I kept track of who had returned (around 20), I am the last one in. Most got disgusted when the RCP was changed on them in the 2008-2010 troop cuts, and got out vowing to never return again. By that time I had 15 in, so spending another 5 in the Reserves was not a big deal. But there is no doubt we all felt betrayed when we returned when asked, only to be cut again a few years later.

Former Navy corpsman went Marine. E-7 and looked 100 years old.

Another was a Vietnam era Mustang Captain pilot who returned to the enlisted ranks.

,always the best stories.
 
As taxpayers let's take a look at our AVF in action abroad:





AVF Dummy

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AVF Dummies

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BAGHDAD, IRAQ: A US Army Bradley vehicle lies turned over on a highway west of Baghdad as soldiers wait for personnel to remove the vehicle 29 July 2004. The accident was due to a traction mechanical problem. No casualties were reported. AFP PHOTO/Karim SAHIB

Sounds like a failure from the motor pool.








Hummer Crashes Honda

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All in a day's work of course. And we know there's an AVF Super NCO in each of these somewhere.
 
As taxpayers let's take a look at our AVF in action abroad:





AVF Dummy

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AVF Dummies

army-bradley-tank-lies-turned-over-on-a-highway-western-of-baghdad-as-picture-id51124229

BAGHDAD, IRAQ: A US Army Bradley vehicle lies turned over on a highway west of Baghdad as soldiers wait for personnel to remove the vehicle 29 July 2004. The accident was due to a traction mechanical problem. No casualties were reported. AFP PHOTO/Karim SAHIB

Sounds like a failure from the motor pool.








Hummer Crashes Honda

208800




All in a day's work of course. And we know there's an AVF Super NCO in each of these somewhere.

Hey, lookie..

Wannabe warrior trying to insult those who volunteer to do what he never did.
 
Former Navy corpsman went Marine. E-7 and looked 100 years old.

Another was a Vietnam era Mustang Captain pilot who returned to the enlisted ranks.

,always the best stories.

I served with a guy a few years ago that hit mandatory retirement when I was at Fort Bliss with him.

He started as an Infantryman in Vietnam. Then reclassed to become a Huey gunner then crew chief. Joined the Warrant Officer flight program and did that for another 20 years, retiring as a CWO4. Then after he retired he became a teacher and joined the National Guard.

He retired from that at 57, and came back in the Army as a Sergeant. I met him shortly after that, he was working as a mechanic at the motor pool. Combat badge, rack of ribbons almost to his shoulder. The Base CG came to his retirement ceremony, he was the last Vietnam Vet on active duty there.

He told me he did not mind retiring, his pay would actually go up! As a retired CWO4 he drew more than he did as an active duty Sergeant.
 
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