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    Top US general calls for more troops and warships to counter growing Russian threat

    Top US general calls for more troops and warships to counter growing Russian threat



    3/5/19
    The top US general overseeing US military operations in Europe warned of a growing Russian threat Tuesday, saying he is "not comfortable yet with the deterrent posture" of the US military in Europe and its ability to deter Russian aggression, recommending the US deploy more troops and warships to Europe. Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti issued the warning in response to a question from the Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Oklahoma Republican Sen. James Inhofe, who asked whether European Command has the right posture and capabilities to credibly deter against Russian aggression in Europe. He warned that his command faced shortfalls with regard to land and naval forces as well as intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance assets. "Of concern is my intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance capacity given that increasing and growing threat of Russia. I need more ISR," he said. "In light of Russia's modernizing and increasingly aggressive force posture EUCOM recommends augmenting our assigned and rotational forces to enhance our deterrence posture," Scaparrotti said. Scaparrotti, the commander of European Command and the NATO Supreme Allied Commander-Europe, specifically requested two addition naval destroyers to join the four already stationed in Rota, Spain, to help counter Russia. "I've asked for two more destroyers for EUCOM," Scaparrotti told the committee, adding, "we do need greater capacity particularly given the modernization and growth of the fleets -- Russian fleets in Europe."
    This on the heels of a call by Chief of Naval Operations Adm. John Richardson to confront Russia and China with more "muscular" responses. No US commanders are liking what they see regarding threats from a resurgent Russian military.


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    Re: Top US general calls for more troops and warships to counter growing Russian threat

    I'm always leery with these claims. Find a military commander that doesn't want more military spending, and then you'll have an interesting headline.

    Also, it's hard to imagine, given the massive military spending gap between our nations that has been there for many decades, that we don't have them completely outclassed on all fronts.

    If indeed Russia is catching up while spending less, then the big takeaway for me is that we're not getting good value on our current military spending. Increasing that spending isn't the solution.

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    The US is working diligently to foment a continuous Cold War with Russia and China to maintain a grossly inflated profit stream to the Military Industrial Complex. The economic weapon of Full Spectrum Dominance isn't bankrupting Russia as planned so our next step is to shoot ourselves in the foot by helpiing the Military to bankrupt our own economy. The planning geniuses that create our International policies are a few cards short of a full deck.
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    Re: Top US general calls for more troops and warships to counter growing Russian threat

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The US is working diligently to foment a continuous Cold War with Russia and China to maintain a grossly inflated profit stream to the Military Industrial Complex. The economic weapon of Full Spectrum Dominance isn't bankrupting Russia as planned so our next step is to shoot ourselves in the foot by helpiing the Military to bankrupt our own economy. The planning geniuses that create our International policies are a few cards short of a full deck.
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    Re: Top US general calls for more troops and warships to counter growing Russian threat

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    Re: Top US general calls for more troops and warships to counter growing Russian threat

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    Top US general calls for more troops and warships to counter growing Russian threat





    This on the heels of a call by Chief of Naval Operations Adm. John Richardson to confront Russia and China with more "muscular" responses. No US commanders are liking what they see regarding threats from a resurgent Russian military.
    Wow... Military Brass calling for more defense spending. Who saw that coming?

    FYI - Saudi Arabia spends more on defense than Russia does.
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    Re: Top US general calls for more troops and warships to counter growing Russian threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Cordelier View Post
    Wow... Military Brass calling for more defense spending. Who saw that coming?

    FYI - Saudi Arabia spends more on defense than Russia does.

    This isn't about budgets or increased budgets, increased defense spending. It's about realigning assets. It's about redeploying existing assets. Some of 'em.

    Gen. Scap as he's called spoke before the Senate Armed Services Committee, not a budget committee. He spoke of strategy and to realign and redeploy. Obama had been shifting 60% of US Naval assets to the India-Pacific Theater. Gen. Scap wants 'em back. Or at least some of 'em. Gen. Scap's proposal is strategic not budgetary. He said nothing about increasing forces or increasing budget spending. Scap said realign and redeploy existing assets.


    NATO Commander Wants 2 More Destroyers, Carrier Presence to Counter Russia

    "A revisionist Russia is the primary threat to a stable Euro-Atlantic security environment," Scaparrotti said. "Russia has invaded Ukraine, occupied Crimea, launched cyber-attacks against the Baltic States and Ukraine, interfered in U.S. and other Western elections, and attacked Ukrainian Navy vessels attempting to transit the Kerch Strait to Ukrainian ports in the Sea of Azov.

    "Given Moscow's demonstrated willingness to violate international law and legally binding treaties, and to exercise malign influence, Russia threatens the United States' vital national interests in preserving a Europe that is whole, free and at peace," he said.


    NATO Commander Wants 2 More Destroyers, Carrier Presence to Counter Russia | Military.com


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    Re: Top US general calls for more troops and warships to counter growing Russian threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Tangmo View Post
    This isn't about budgets or increased budgets, increased defense spending. It's about realigning assets. It's about redeploying existing assets. Some of 'em.

    Gen. Scap as he's called spoke before the Senate Armed Services Committee, not a budget committee. He spoke of strategy and to realign and redeploy. Obama had been shifting 60% of US Naval assets to the India-Pacific Theater. Gen. Scap wants 'em back. Or at least some of 'em. Gen. Scap's proposal is strategic not budgetary. He said nothing about increasing forces or increasing budget spending. Scap said realign and redeploy existing assets.


    NATO Commander Wants 2 More Destroyers, Carrier Presence to Counter Russia

    "A revisionist Russia is the primary threat to a stable Euro-Atlantic security environment," Scaparrotti said. "Russia has invaded Ukraine, occupied Crimea, launched cyber-attacks against the Baltic States and Ukraine, interfered in U.S. and other Western elections, and attacked Ukrainian Navy vessels attempting to transit the Kerch Strait to Ukrainian ports in the Sea of Azov.

    "Given Moscow's demonstrated willingness to violate international law and legally binding treaties, and to exercise malign influence, Russia threatens the United States' vital national interests in preserving a Europe that is whole, free and at peace," he said.


    NATO Commander Wants 2 More Destroyers, Carrier Presence to Counter Russia | Military.com


    Using existing resources.
    Before you pass the appropriations, you need the authorizations... and those come through the Armed Services Committee.

    You're absolutely right... Saudi Arabia doesn't have Putin - but what it does have is a bat-**** crazy, self-important entitled little bitch of a Crown Prince who is sitting on 18% of the World's Oil Reserves in the middle of the most volatile region of the Globe. He's sitting on top of a powder keg and waving around a lit torch.

    But I digress.... I only mentioned the comparison to demonstrate just how little Russia actually does spend on defense - when you consider the size of the territory it has to defend, it's miniscule.

    This isn't the Cold War... there aren't hundreds of divisions poised to sweep into the Fulda Gap anymore. Where it comes to allocating defense priorities, I've got to figure about the biggest mistake anyone can make is falling into the trap of preparing for the last war. Circumstances change.

    It seems to me that with PRC's aggressive moves into the South China Sea and with the North Koreans continuing to build their ICBM & nuclear capabilities, that our prime concern ought to be the Western Pacific region.
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    Re: Top US general calls for more troops and warships to counter growing Russian threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Cordelier View Post
    Before you pass the appropriations, you need the authorizations... and those come through the Armed Services Committee.

    You're absolutely right... Saudi Arabia doesn't have Putin - but what it does have is a bat-**** crazy, self-important entitled little bitch of a Crown Prince who is sitting on 18% of the World's Oil Reserves in the middle of the most volatile region of the Globe. He's sitting on top of a powder keg and waving around a lit torch.

    But I digress.... I only mentioned the comparison to demonstrate just how little Russia actually does spend on defense - when you consider the size of the territory it has to defend, it's miniscule.

    This isn't the Cold War... there aren't hundreds of divisions poised to sweep into the Fulda Gap anymore. Where it comes to allocating defense priorities, I've got to figure about the biggest mistake anyone can make is falling into the trap of preparing for the last war. Circumstances change.

    It seems to me that with PRC's aggressive moves into the South China Sea and with the North Koreans continuing to build their ICBM & nuclear capabilities, that our prime concern ought to be the Western Pacific region.
    Hilite:
    The Budget Committee votes on authorizations, up or down. It forwards approvals only to Appropriations Committee.
    Appropriations Committee chooses the authorizations it likes. This committee votes to raise the funds.
    Executive Branch and its departments etc commit the outlays of monies authorized and appropriated to be expended.
    Using the Armed Services Committee as the instance, it submits its proposed budget to the Budget Committee. After that they can only complain and say wait till next year.



    Gen. Scap was commander in South Korea after which he became supreme allied commander Europe. He has supreme competence of the situation in the India-Pacific Theater which includes East Asia, and of Europe-Eurasia and the Atlantic-Med. He has perspective. The general wants two destroyers returned to the US base at Rota Spain and a greater carrier presence in the Atlantic. He also wants:

    In addition to naval assets, Scaparrotti said U.S. contributions to NATO should include more long-range artillery, engineers and sustainment brigades. He noted that NATO and U.S. European Command are getting better at being more agile with ground units.

    "Three years ago, we were moving one brigade at a time" with difficulty, he said. "A month ago, I moved four brigades -- two armored, two [combat aviation brigades] -- simultaneously. That's progress."

    Scaparrotti said he also wants to station F-35 Joint Strike Fighters and bombers in Europe. "I'm looking forward to those being stationed permanently, in some numbers, in Europe as well," he said.


    NATO Commander Wants 2 More Destroyers, Carrier Presence to Counter Russia | Military.com


    US isn't going to do a land invasion or ground war in China or in Russia. No one in his right mind is going to do that. The US and allies concern about China is air and sea to include of course undersea. With Russia it is the more traditional air and land, to include the Arctic.

    The Nato operational environment dictates US-Allied control of the Atlantic, hence the naval aspect to include some air of course. Another factor US and allies east and west know is that Putin wants US armed forces lined up against China while Putin and Russia get a free ride ticket. Gen. Scap wants a small but significant strategic realignment of forces and a better balance and functionality of deployed forces.

    Nobody's forgetting about China or ignoring it; nor is anyone selling China short. Japan for instance will continue to have a USN Aegis destroyer in the East Sea 24/7 between NK and Japan as a first line of missile defense. US has new agreements of logistics and storage with VN and India that are in addition to long standing ones with other allies and strategic partners throughout the region. Putin's not going to get the free ride he's trying to get with a little help from his friends.
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    Re: Top US general calls for more troops and warships to counter growing Russian threat

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