Oh my goodness, really? You looked up a single reference, and that means I am lying.
Sorry, am not lying. I spent over 5 years there, and know that gate. It is the one I most commonly used my entire time there.
http://ncolcoe.armylive.dodlive.mil/files/2013/07/gates.pdf
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https://ia.utep.edu/Portals/206/MAP_FortBliss.pdf
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it is one of the busiest gates on the post, open Monday through Friday from around 4AM until around 7PM. It is the closest gate to the ADA area of the base, so most of us use it daily.
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You wrote:
"was on the West side of the post, the other was on the East side near the Ramagan Gate. ... And it looks like they are finally repeating that housing at the old Ramagan area."
I thought that detail was specific and easy enough to verify, which I was undertook to do because I don't know you, I don't know Ft. Bliss, and, frankly, I don't really trust much that people on the Internet say. Why? Two recent GOP POTUSes have brazenly lied about material points of fact, so I no longer trust anything conservatives say if I've not verified it.
Why'd I pick the gate to verify? Because I knew I had no way to verify 2009-2010 demolitions at Ft. Bliss. So I figured if the gate's there, I'll accept the account you gave....Not a high bar, but I didn't think you'd fabricate the yarn you told.
I saw the site to which I linked and that lists the various gates and their hours of operation. Seeing no "Ramagan Gate" [sic], I still thought it unlikely that you'd have made up the name of a damn gate, so called Ft. Bliss' main number (915.568.3035) and asked if there is a Remagen Gate. I was told there is no such gate. I accepted the answer and hung up. Why wouldn't I?
Seeing your subsequent remarks above, and seeing
the map to which you linked, I called the above noted phone number again today. Referencing information in your map, I asked:
- "Is there a Remagen Gate at Ft. Bliss?
- "Is there a gate at the intersection of Butterfield Trail Blvd. and Airport Rd. on the east side of the post?"
- "What is the name of the gate closest to the Stout Fitness Center?"
- I was told the Chaffee Gate or Buffalo Soldier Gate. (The latter, BTW, doesn't appear on the map you've referenced.)
Finally, I called the Stout Fitness Center and asked the same questions. The woman who answered the phone said essentially the same things the other personnel did (the guy yesterday and the guy with whom I first spoke today).
I then asked, "Are you sure there's no gate at the Cassidy and Airport Rds intersection?"
She said, "Yes."
I indicated that I only want to know if there is a gate there and than offered the following example: "If all hell broke loose on post and they had to open every exit so people could get out, is there a gate at the intersection of Airport Rd and Cassidy that could be opened?"
Her reply: "Yes, there's a gate there, but it's closed 24/7. It's been closed for a long time. I thought you were asking about gates you can use."
I asked if the gate has a name. She said she didn't know whether it has a name. I thanked her for her input.
So, yes, you are correct; there seems to be a Remagen Gate at Ft. Bliss. (I don't know if it still has that name.) The "trust but verify" techniques I used to confirm what should have been an easily verified data point in your remarks resulted in my adopting an errant stance regarding your assertion's veracity re: existence and classification of a "structure" at Ft. Bliss, namely the Remagen Gate.
- The site I found contains an error of omission.
- BTW, the map you referenced also is imperfect. There is, per the woman with whom I spoke, an operational gate at Ft. Bliss called "Buffalo Soldier." It doesn't appear on the map to which you linked.
- Two-and-a-half of the employees with whom I spoke at Ft. Bliss, and on whose input I relied, are half-wits who're incapable of simply answering the question they're asked instead of the question they think someone's asking.
As for what the thing looked like in your days on the base, well, I don't care. I just care that there is a gate there that has that name. FWIW,
it doesn't look like "much" these days and it's clearly not in use, but flimsy chain link fencing gate or some more elaborate form of gate, it matters not. It's a damn gate and that's all it needed to be to meet the existence criterion, which is all I wanted to confirm.
