Navy chief says the US needs to hit first and get 'muscular' with Russian and Chinese ships

Evilroddy said:

beerftw:

Scroll down to the 2010-2016 chart to see the counting for the 275 ship navy.

US Ship Force Levels

The 355 ship navy can be seen by googling "355 ship navy plan".

Cheers.
Evilroddy.

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It appears the listing shows combat ships and support ships relating to combat, I guess that is more accurate since the 430 ship count counts everything including tugboats and other odd vessals.

beerftw said:

Yes and you post ignores that india has formal strategic military partnership with russia as well and russia is their strongest and most trusted ally, while india is still on a status of not trusting the us, especially since the us is allied with pakistan. Beyond that india is bound by a defense pact with china russia and kazahkstan, in which they must come to the aid of others in the pact.

Indias strongest allies are in order russia, then israel, then bhutan, usa is much lower on the list, to the extent india trusts us allies like japan and israel far more than they trust the usa itself.

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Thx anyway cause you need to try to keep up....



India Has Become US Military Ally: CPI-M


The Logistics Support Agreement was signed by the US and India on August 30, 2016. Then SecDef Ashton Carter and India Defense Minister Manohar Parikkar.

New Delhi: India has formally become a military ally of the US after signing a Logistics Agreement that will allow American armed forces to access and use Indian military bases, the CPI-M said on Tuesday. "By signing such an agreement, India has acquired the formal status of a military ally of the US," the Communist Party of India-Marxist said in a statement.

"Under this agreement, the US air force and navy can use Indian naval and air bases for logistics support, refuelling and services on a regular basis. "The US armed forces can utilise Indian military bases while conducting military operations in third countries," it said. The agreement, termed the Logistic Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA), was signed in Washington during the visit of Defence Minister Manohar Parikkar.

"The (Narendra) Modi government has compromised on Indian sovereignty and surrendered its strategic autonomy by signing such an agreement with the most powerful imperialist country in the world," the CPI-M said. "All patriotic Indians will reject such a subordinate role to US imperialism," it added. (emphasis added)

India Has Become US Military Ally: CPI-M


The guy leading the Communist Party of India-Marxist who's up in arms against the US-India defense partnership alliance sounds like your kind of guy.


India has serious beefs against the CCP Boys in Beijing that it does not have against the United States. There remain serious unresolved border disputes, Beijing's absolute support of Pakistan and its nuclear program, and the CCP swarming its Navy into the Indian Ocean, submarines especially. Xi Jinpingpong made the statement two years ago that "the Indian Ocean is not Indian." This is despite CCP Boys claiming virtually all of the South China Sea which almost all of the ten nations bordering it want the name changed to the Southeast Asia Sea. Names matter then eh.

However, CCP Boys in Beijing face the same severe limitations concerning the Indian Ocean as the USSR fleet which maxed out at 22 Naval vessels. Too much ocean and never enough ships. China and Russia share a lot of challenges to overcome the USN control of the Indian Ocean. Each China and Russia are major Eurasian continental powers and are thus severed from direct access to the Indian Ocean. The PLA Navy can only reach the Indian Ocean after long voyages that have choke points at each side of the Indian Ocean Region: Malacca and Hormuz. PLAN has virtually no logistical and maintenance support along the Ocean rim nor will it be able to gain enough in either number or of size.

In contrast India which has two dozen destroyers and frigates plus subs has all the advantages over China and Russia and it is wed to the USN in the Ocean to include the region of Iran and the Gulf. China is simply unable to prevent either India or the USN blockading its oil transport lines from the ME to China, and the PLAN is wholly unable to counter both Navies operating jointly. Plus as I'd mentioned in scrolling, India has new naval and air forces bases on the Andaman islands at the north end of the Strait of Malacca which is a source of great comfort to the ten nations that border the South China Sea. India has said no to Beijing's Belt and Road Nightmare Dream which anyway is operating only in Pakistan due to the rejection of it by nations throughout Asia who are concerned about huge debts to Beijing and the massive influx of Chinese to work the belt and road projects.

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Tangmo said:

Thx anyway cause you need to try to keep up....



India Has Become US Military Ally: CPI-M

The Logistics Support Agreement was signed by the US and India on August 30, 2016. Then SecDef Ashton Carter and India Defense Minister Manohar Parikkar.

New Delhi: India has formally become a military ally of the US after signing a Logistics Agreement that will allow American armed forces to access and use Indian military bases, the CPI-M said on Tuesday. "By signing such an agreement, India has acquired the formal status of a military ally of the US," the Communist Party of India-Marxist said in a statement.

"Under this agreement, the US air force and navy can use Indian naval and air bases for logistics support, refuelling and services on a regular basis. "The US armed forces can utilise Indian military bases while conducting military operations in third countries," it said. The agreement, termed the Logistic Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA), was signed in Washington during the visit of Defence Minister Manohar Parikkar.

"The (Narendra) Modi government has compromised on Indian sovereignty and surrendered its strategic autonomy by signing such an agreement with the most powerful imperialist country in the world," the CPI-M said. "All patriotic Indians will reject such a subordinate role to US imperialism," it added. (emphasis added)

India Has Become US Military Ally: CPI-M


The guy leading the Communist Party of India-Marxist who's up in arms against the US-India defense partnership alliance sounds like your kind of guy.


India has serious beefs against the CCP Boys in Beijing that it does not have against the United States. There remain serious unresolved border disputes, Beijing's absolute support of Pakistan and its nuclear program, and the CCP swarming its Navy into the Indian Ocean, submarines especially. Xi Jinpingpong made the statement two years ago that "the Indian Ocean is not Indian." This is despite CCP Boys claiming virtually all of the South China Sea which almost all of the ten nations bordering it want the name changed to the Southeast Asia Sea. Names matter then eh.

However, CCP Boys in Beijing face the same severe limitations concerning the Indian Ocean as the USSR fleet which maxed out at 22 Naval vessels. Too much ocean and never enough ships. China and Russia share a lot of challenges to overcome the USN control of the Indian Ocean. Each China and Russia are major Eurasian continental powers and are thus severed from direct access to the Indian Ocean. The PLA Navy can only reach the Indian Ocean after long voyages that have choke points at each side of the Indian Ocean Region: Malacca and Hormuz. PLAN has virtually no logistical and maintenance support along the Ocean rim nor will it be able to gain enough in either number or of size.

In contrast India which has two dozen destroyers and frigates plus subs has all the advantages over China and Russia and it is wed to the USN in the Ocean to include the region of Iran and the Gulf. China is simply unable to prevent either India or the USN blockading its oil transport lines from the ME to China, and the PLAN is wholly unable to counter both Navies operating jointly. Plus as I'd mentioned in scrolling, India has new naval and air forces bases on the Andaman islands at the north end of the Strait of Malacca which is a source of great comfort to the ten nations that border the South China Sea. India has said no to Beijing's Belt and Road Nightmare Dream which anyway is operating only in Pakistan due to the rejection of it by nations throughout Asia who are concerned about huge debts to Beijing and the massive influx of Chinese to work the belt and road projects.

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You are comparing logistics support with the us to actual defense pacts they have with russia. Also mind you that alliance is still on very shaky grounds, us threatened india when they bought the s-400 system, then later waivered it after the indians in a very polite way told the us to pound sand. India also refused to back the us stance on venezuala, instead siding with russia and china siding with maduro. India also is still not sold on the f-16 despite us contractors bending over backwards to try and sell them the jet, it is not a good alliance when they would rather buy french jets or russian jets than american, and very rarely side with the us on policy.

beerftw said:

You are comparing logistics support with the us to actual defense pacts they have with russia. Also mind you that alliance is still on very shaky grounds, us threatened india when they bought the s-400 system, then later waivered it after the indians in a very polite way told the us to pound sand. India also refused to back the us stance on venezuala, instead siding with russia and china siding with maduro. India also is still not sold on the f-16 despite us contractors bending over backwards to try and sell them the jet, it is not a good alliance when they would rather buy french jets or russian jets than american, and very rarely side with the us on policy.

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As I'd said you can find a compatriot in the Indian head of the Communist Party of India-Marxist who is still jumping up and down hollering against the 2016 logistics agreement and flapping his arms.

India has for decades had two competing foreign policy elites. One is the nationalist sovereign group who oppose alliances except for Russia. The other group which is dominant of late is the Great Power elite that advocates engaging any foreign government that has any significant measure of clout to balance 'em off against one another. So with the Great Power elite dominating we see the crosscurrents of support, partnerships, alliances that India has committed itself to in the 21st century. Yes there is no doubt Russia is regarded in India as their eternal friend but we know from history what that is worth in the pinch.

The bottom line is that the US is engaged with India and that India is engaged positively with the USA. Competition for contracts is normal, routine, standard. The US is getting its share, quietly, which is the India style. The fact remains India will never fight with Russia or China or both of 'em against the United States. You are both fantasizing to say it will and you are showing once again your Russian bear tattoo.



US-Japan-India-Australia are forming an alliance against CHINA

February 6, 2019


India Prime Minister Narendra Modi with US President Donald Trump, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and other world leaders at an ASEAN Summit in Manila the past November. (PTI)


The U.S., Japan, Australia and India are working to preserve the balance of power in the Asia Pacific. That result became more likely after officials from the four democracies held discussions on upholding freedom of navigation, terrorism, connectivity and maritime security in Asia on the sidelines of a November ASEAN Summit last year.

The meeting, dubbed the “Australia-India-Japan-United States consultations on the Indo-Pacific,” was widely viewed as a resurgence of the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue — or “Quad” — an informal security forum consisting of the same four countries that launched in 2007 but eventually fell apart.

The revived Quad comes as President Donald Trump’s administration centers its Asia strategy around a “free and open Indo-Pacific,” a term used as a replacement for the more widely used “Asia Pacific” label.

An anti-China alliance?

The consultations focused on “issues of mutual concern, whether they be security, economic or political,” Alex Wong, deputy assistant secretary at the U.S. State Department’s East Asian and Pacific Affairs bureau, said last week in response to a question from CNBC.

China is the biggest shared worry among the four powers, strategists said.

“Though China is cautiously not named in any of the statements, the revival of the group is undoubtedly motivated by increasing nervousness at China’s assertiveness and military ambitions in the region,” researchers at Singapore-based Nanyang Technological University said in a note.

US-Japan-India-Australia are forming an alliance against CHINA - Makabansa


Don't you know Trump hates China. And that the Chinese people hate India, they hate Japanese, but they love Americans while they hate America. And that India doesn't trust China to sell 'em a dumpling. That Australia used to buckle to China but now under the new Prime Minister Scott Morrison Aussies are getting in Beijing's face. Then again how is an eternal corporal supposed to know these kind of things.

Tangmo said:

As I'd said you can find a compatriot in the Indian head of the Communist Party of India-Marxist who is still jumping up and down hollering against the 2016 logistics agreement and flapping his arms.

India has for decades had two competing foreign policy elites. One is the nationalist sovereign group who oppose alliances except for Russia. The other group which is dominant of late is the Great Power elite that advocates engaging any foreign government that has any significant measure of clout to balance 'em off against one another. So with the Great Power elite dominating we see the crosscurrents of support, partnerships, alliances that India has committed itself to in the 21st century. Yes there is no doubt Russia is regarded in India as their eternal friend but we know from history what that is worth in the pinch.

The bottom line is that the US is engaged with India and that India is engaged positively with the USA. Competition for contracts is normal, routine, standard. The US is getting its share, quietly, which is the India style. The fact remains India will never fight with Russia or China or both of 'em against the United States. You are both fantasizing to say it will and you are showing once again your Russian bear tattoo.



US-Japan-India-Australia are forming an alliance against CHINA

February 6, 2019

India Prime Minister Narendra Modi with US President Donald Trump, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and other world leaders at an ASEAN Summit in Manila the past November. (PTI)


The U.S., Japan, Australia and India are working to preserve the balance of power in the Asia Pacific. That result became more likely after officials from the four democracies held discussions on upholding freedom of navigation, terrorism, connectivity and maritime security in Asia on the sidelines of a November ASEAN Summit last year.

The meeting, dubbed the “Australia-India-Japan-United States consultations on the Indo-Pacific,” was widely viewed as a resurgence of the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue — or “Quad” — an informal security forum consisting of the same four countries that launched in 2007 but eventually fell apart.

The revived Quad comes as President Donald Trump’s administration centers its Asia strategy around a “free and open Indo-Pacific,” a term used as a replacement for the more widely used “Asia Pacific” label.

An anti-China alliance?

The consultations focused on “issues of mutual concern, whether they be security, economic or political,” Alex Wong, deputy assistant secretary at the U.S. State Department’s East Asian and Pacific Affairs bureau, said last week in response to a question from CNBC.

China is the biggest shared worry among the four powers, strategists said.

“Though China is cautiously not named in any of the statements, the revival of the group is undoubtedly motivated by increasing nervousness at China’s assertiveness and military ambitions in the region,” researchers at Singapore-based Nanyang Technological University said in a note.

US-Japan-India-Australia are forming an alliance against CHINA - Makabansa


Don't you know Trump hates China. And that the Chinese people hate India, they hate Japanese, but they love Americans while they hate America. And that India doesn't trust China to sell 'em a dumpling. That Australia used to buckle to China but now under the new Prime Minister Scott Morrison Aussies are getting in Beijing's face. Then again how is an eternal corporal supposed to know these kind of things.

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Us and others yes they are building an alliance against china, but india also has a defense pact with china. This is not anything new, heck south korea and japan are seeking defense pacts with russia for the sole purpose of countering china, as russia has more sway over china than any other nation.

However to understand everything you need to understand the sco, india china and russia are the biggest players, the sco had two main purposes, the first was to protect eastern nations from western nations, the second was to protect the sco from it's own nations, meaning if russia invaded china india would have to come to chinas aid, and if china invaded india, russia would have to come to indias aid, this meant that the sco not only created a nato rival, but also created an alliance to defend themselves against themselves.

The sco would fall if the western threat dissapeared, and india china and russia would be at constant war, however as long as the sco exists it deters not only western aggression but aggression within it's own ranks.

beerftw said:

Us and others yes they are building an alliance against china, but india also has a defense pact with china. This is not anything new, heck south korea and japan are seeking defense pacts with russia for the sole purpose of countering china, as russia has more sway over china than any other nation.

However to understand everything you need to understand the sco, india china and russia are the biggest players, the sco had two main purposes, the first was to protect eastern nations from western nations, the second was to protect the sco from it's own nations, meaning if russia invaded china india would have to come to chinas aid, and if china invaded india, russia would have to come to indias aid, this meant that the sco not only created a nato rival, but also created an alliance to defend themselves against themselves.

The sco would fall if the western threat dissapeared, and india china and russia would be at constant war, however as long as the sco exists it deters not only western aggression but aggression within it's own ranks.

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This is a serious formal agreement between USA and India. It goes radically beyond any agreement India has with either Russia or CCP Dictator-Tyrants in Beijing -- either or both. Neither Russia nor China can do what India agreed to accept the US armed forces doing. You can't show otherwise concerning Russia, India, China. Your thesis fails miserably, totally, entirely and indefinitely. Neither should anyone accept any thesis in these respects from an eternal corporal and Putin Fanboy.



New Delhi: India has formally become a military ally of the US after signing a Logistics Agreement that will allow American armed forces to access and use Indian military bases, the CPI-M said on Tuesday. "By signing such an agreement, India has acquired the formal status of a military ally of the US," the Communist Party of India-Marxist said in a statement.

"Under this agreement, the US air force and navy can use Indian naval and air bases for logistics support, refuelling and services on a regular basis. "The US armed forces can utilise Indian military bases while conducting military operations in third countries," it said. The agreement, termed the Logistic Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA), was signed in Washington during the visit of Defence Minister Manohar Parikkar [in 2016].

India Has Become US Military Ally: CPI-M


This just kills the enemies of the United States wherever they may be and no matter what they say so they're just going to have to suck it up.

Anyone read the title of the thread and think, "Man, that CPO must be drunk as hell"?

Rucker61 said:

Anyone read the title of the thread and think, "Man, that CPO must be drunk as hell"?

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Admiral Richardson is chief of naval operations not chief petty officer enlisted. That's CNO not CPO.

Neither is Adm. Richardson Russian so he qualifies as a sober naval officer and commander.

An officer and a gentleman which is light years more than one can say about any Russian Cossack wannabe.

Tangmo said:

Admiral Richardson is chief of naval operations not chief petty officer enlisted. That's CNO not CPO.

Neither is Adm. Richardson Russian so he qualifies as a sober naval officer and commander.

An officer and a gentleman which is light years more than one can say about any Russian Cossack wannabe.

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"Navy Chief" can be read two ways.

Rucker61 said:

"Navy Chief" can be read two ways.

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You seem to have missed presenting 'em.

A slight oversight I'm sure.

So kindly do proceed thx. Because the OP, thread and topic is all about Admiral John Richardson, Chief of Naval Operations. That's the navy title that is equivalent to chief of staff of Army and of Air Force, respectively. And commandant of Marine Corps and of Coast Guard, respectively. Another member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is the -- get this -- Chief of the National Guard Bureau (Army and Air Force).

They're all officers and four-stars while Chief Petty Officer is enlisted. That's a world of difference if you don't know it. Because you've got you chiefs all jumbled up. Like, since when does "Navy Chief" Admiral John Richardson in the OP refer to anything and anyone other than the CNO. That's chief of naval operations Admiral John Richardson whose name is all over the thread.

Ok chief, now you know. Here anyway is a looksee...









Class dismissed.

Tangmo said:

You seem to have missed presenting 'em.

A slight oversight I'm sure.

So kindly do proceed thx. Because the OP, thread and topic is all about Admiral John Richardson, Chief of Naval Operations. That's the navy title that is equivalent to chief of staff of Army and of Air Force, respectively. And commandant of Marine Corps and of Coast Guard, respectively. Another member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is the -- get this -- Chief of the National Guard Bureau (Army and Air Force).

They're all officers and four-stars while Chief Petty Officer is enlisted. That's a world of difference if you don't know it. Because you've got you chiefs all jumbled up. Like, since when does "Navy Chief" Admiral John Richardson in the OP refer to anything and anyone other than the CNO. That's chief of naval operations Admiral John Richardson whose name is all over the thread.

Ok chief, now you know. Here anyway is a looksee...

Class dismissed.

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I'm aware of the Navy rank structure. Look at the title again, without considering any of the actual post. The first thing I think of when I hear "Navy Chief" is the senior NCO, not CNO. If I had written the title I would have used CNO. It's shorter and it avoids confusion.

Do you even have a sense of humor?

Rucker61 said:

I'm aware of the Navy rank structure. Look at the title again, without considering any of the actual post. The first thing I think of when I hear "Navy Chief" is the senior NCO, not CNO. If I had written the title I would have used CNO. It's shorter and it avoids confusion.

Do you even have a sense of humor?

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Claiming humor after the fact of a disaster is the last refuge of the guy who's the laughing stock already. No one who knows the chain of command positions, ranks, responsibilities can possibly think the thread title, topic, media eruption refer to a chief petty officer E-7 drunk or sober. My god. Not everyone in the armed forces is EP nor is the EP oath the only oath. In short, expand the horizon over there because the sun does not rise and set on EP only. CPO is an important position but it isn't the only position nor does it have the authority or standing of the thread and topic. It helps also to read the OP before posting.

notquiteright said:

Actually they want border security. I'm no Russian bot, I served in the 3AD back in the E-Vile Empire days. History has taught the Russians they have much to fear from the WEST. Time after time Russia has been invaded by Europeans,

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Russia is "European". The part that matters anyway.

Tangmo said:

Claiming humor after the fact of a disaster is the last refuge of the guy who's the laughing stock already. No one who knows the chain of command positions, ranks, responsibilities can possibly think the thread title, topic, media eruption refer to a chief petty officer E-7 drunk or sober. My god. Not everyone in the armed forces is EP nor is the EP oath the only oath. In short, expand the horizon over there because the sun does not rise and set on EP only. CPO is an important position but it isn't the only position nor does it have the authority or standing of the thread and topic. It helps also to read the OP before posting.

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I read the OP; I knew that it was about the CNO. However, the title of the thread says "Navy chief says the US needs to hit first and get 'muscular' with Russian and Chinese ships". No reference to CNO, although there could have been. Frankly, "Navy chief" is a terrible way of referring to the CNO, especially when CNO would have been more brief and more accurate - there's only one CNO; there are boatloads of Navy chiefs.

I'll just put your response down to a metaphorical stick up your ass about something.

Rucker61 said:

I read the OP; I knew that it was about the CNO. However, the title of the thread says "Navy chief says the US needs to hit first and get 'muscular' with Russian and Chinese ships". No reference to CNO, although there could have been. Frankly, "Navy chief" is a terrible way of referring to the CNO, especially when CNO would have been more brief and more accurate - there's only one CNO; there are boatloads of Navy chiefs.

I'll just put your response down to a metaphorical stick up your ass about something.

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It feels more like a proverbial tongue and one that's wagging.

No navy chief petty officer as important as the position is would make this statement and get these headlines. Anyone who thinks it's a CPO and not the CNO would have his own head up his own place where the sun don't shine. Let's hope you're not a gunner cause you'd blow up your own turret.

Rucker61 said:

I'm aware of the Navy rank structure. Look at the title again, without considering any of the actual post.

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The OP clears up any would be misconceptions.

Rogue Valley said:

The OP clears up any would be misconceptions.

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True, and I read it before I posted. The title itself is joke worthy.

Google "Navy chief". The first page of results is all about NCOs; there isn't a single mention of the CNO on that page.

Anyone who may think the OP headline and story refer to a navy chief petty officer E-7 needs to get out more.

Mostly get his head out of his ass. E-7 in Army is sergeant first class and in Marines it is gunnery sergeant.

The USN is more than chief petty officers as important and as respected as they are. The OP identifies the CNO -- chief of naval operations -- who is a four-star and it names him, Admiral John Richardson, chief of Naval Operations. Adm. Richardson's grade is O-10.

Anyone who read the OP and the thread would know 100% it's about CNO not CPO. Unless of course his head is so far up his ass he thinks it's daytime.

The U.S. attacking militarily Russian ships in Azov would be a huge propaganda victory for the Kremlin. Same with attacking Chinese vessels in the South China Sea. There aren't any military solutions to this situation. The Russian Kremlin, like the idiots they are, thought they could "get muscular" with Eastern Ukraine, and now their standing in the world has all but evaporated, they're sanctioned by every developed country across the world. Nobody trusts them (not even their closest neighbors). Stealth decapitation strike against the centers of EEU governance and logistics, we may hit Ukraine, Belarus and Central Asia as well, but if the U.S. was directly under threat (i.e. say 2020 election meddling that causes civil unrest/war), that is the utmost I would suggest.

Anything more than that and we're looking at a Russian propaganda/military victory against the United States (Russia has won all of its wars against aggressor nations) or even nuclear war.

Abbazorkzog said:

The U.S. attacking militarily Russian ships in Azov would be a huge propaganda victory for the Kremlin. Same with attacking Chinese vessels in the South China Sea. There aren't any military solutions to this situation. The Russian Kremlin, like the idiots they are, thought they could "get muscular" with Eastern Ukraine, and now their standing in the world has all but evaporated, they're sanctioned by every developed country across the world. Nobody trusts them (not even their closest neighbors). Stealth decapitation strike against the centers of EEU governance and logistics, we may hit Ukraine, Belarus and Central Asia as well, but if the U.S. was directly under threat (i.e. say 2020 election meddling that causes civil unrest/war), that is the utmost I would suggest.

Anything more than that and we're looking at a Russian propaganda/military victory against the United States (Russia has won all of its wars against aggressor nations) or even nuclear war.

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As to your parenthetical Russian generals are definitely among the best in the world. There's General Winter, General Freeze, General Blizzard, Gen. Snow, Gen. Storm, Gen. Famine, Gen. Ice, Gen. Mudd and so on.

Adm. Richardson's statements are rather designed to get Putin and his generals thinking about things in the present circumstances, such as how their fleet enclosed in the Black Sea are ducks on a pond. Same for Beijing and the enclosed South China Sea. There's no escape for either fleet given they're enclosed by land and have only narrow passages and few channels we control access through. PLA Navy and PLA Air Force just completed a month of exercises in the SCS to test their new USA copy integrated warfare and they'll have to do it again until they get it right. And again. And again. Exercise Beijing Duck let's call it.

Pentagon knows acutely US allies standing up desperately against Russia, China and Trump need a boost and they need one powerfully. Adm. Richardson speaks for Pentagon on this. Trump as Potus/CinC has forced the issue.

Rucker61 said:

I'm aware of the Navy rank structure. Look at the title again, without considering any of the actual post. The first thing I think of when I hear "Navy Chief" is the senior NCO, not CNO. If I had written the title I would have used CNO. It's shorter and it avoids confusion.

Do you even have a sense of humor?

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Tangmo being Tangmo...

Always trying to talk down to his betters.

The kampf continues.

Tangmo said:

This is a serious formal agreement between USA and India. It goes radically beyond any agreement India has with either Russia or CCP Dictator-Tyrants in Beijing -- either or both. Neither Russia nor China can do what India agreed to accept the US armed forces doing. You can't show otherwise concerning Russia, India, China. Your thesis fails miserably, totally, entirely and indefinitely. Neither should anyone accept any thesis in these respects from an eternal corporal and Putin Fanboy.



New Delhi: India has formally become a military ally of the US after signing a Logistics Agreement that will allow American armed forces to access and use Indian military bases, the CPI-M said on Tuesday. "By signing such an agreement, India has acquired the formal status of a military ally of the US," the Communist Party of India-Marxist said in a statement.

"Under this agreement, the US air force and navy can use Indian naval and air bases for logistics support, refuelling and services on a regular basis. "The US armed forces can utilise Indian military bases while conducting military operations in third countries," it said. The agreement, termed the Logistic Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA), was signed in Washington during the visit of Defence Minister Manohar Parikkar [in 2016].

India Has Become US Military Ally: CPI-M


This just kills the enemies of the United States wherever they may be and no matter what they say so they're just going to have to suck it up.

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Considering india is in a direct defense pact with russia and china and america is in a logistics pact, I think you are either full of it or completely think being able to refuel aircraft and navy vessals is greater than a complete defense pact.

Tangmo said:

The kampf continues.

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The courage of not quoting others continues.....

beerftw said:

Considering india is in a direct defense pact with russia and china and america is in a logistics pact, I think you are either full of it or completely think being able to refuel aircraft and navy vessals is greater than a complete defense pact.

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US armed forces are now operating in India against third countries such as in Afghanistan but not only Afstan. Your vacuous attempts to align India against the United States with Beijing and Moscow which have no such agreements with India mean you are running errands for Moscow. You're on a straight line track from Moscow to here. It's also somewhat comical that both you and Kremlin think the world will believe and accept the given orders recited by an eternal corporal. We also see that your US armed forces oath to the Constitution has the same value to you as Trump's oath as Potus, i.e., useful toilet tissue to both of you. Some others here who were coasters simply recited the oath on reup then went directly to the pay and bonus lines to include the benefits window.