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Tigerace117 said:
Yep, like you said, it is a symbol of who one is really loyal to.

People who fly the Confederate flag are not loyal to the United States.....and should be treated as such.

Those who are loyal to the Confederacy.....have no room to scream about anyone else "not being loyal".
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Again, you are free to be "intolerant."
 
Dutch said:
The flag is a symbol of a number of things. If you don't understand the importance of symbols you cannot understand the concept of culture. If you do not understand culture you cannot

understand the concept of loyalty. If you do not understand the importance of loyalty you do not understand......much.
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What kind or simpleton is loyal to a flag? The only thing that matters is being loyal to a country, which explains why it's next to impossible for conservatives to do so.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
What kind or simpleton is loyal to a flag? The only thing that matters is being loyal to a country, which explains why it's next to impossible for conservatives to do so.
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Tanngrisnir said:
What kind or simpleton is loyal to a flag? The only thing that matters is being loyal to a country, which explains why it's next to impossible for conservatives to do so.
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You’re repeating yourself.

You are talking about “countries.” I’m talking about culture. The two concepts are not wholly interchangeable.
 
Dutch said:
Again, you are free to be "intolerant."
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Again, there is no reason to tolerate enemies of the United States who brutally oppressed Americans for more than a century.
 
Dutch said:
The problem with calling people "traitors" is every traitor is someone else's patriot.
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Is Lee your patriot? How about Trump?
 
Dutch said:
I don't "require" you to be tolerant. As far as I'm concerned you are free to be as intolerant as you wish.



That very same government that "smacked" them turned around and sold the blacks back into bondage.

It was called the compromise of 1877. A Democrat had won the popular vote for president. The Republicans wanted the presidency. They compromised. They gave up on reconstruction. They handed the south over to the very same politicians that had led the rebellion. The northern troops left. The southern politicians instituted a series of laws we now call the jim crow laws and the rest is history.

The blacks were delivered into a type of bondage nearly as bad as the slavery that had preceded it.

The Compromise of 1877 was an informal, unwritten deal, that settled the intensely disputed 1876 U.S. presidential election. It resulted in the United States federal government pulling the last troops out of the South, and formally ended the Reconstruction Era.

All that's changed of course. The Democratic party has failed the blacks in both the northern cities and across California. They're moving back south now because of opportunities, and the culture, is simply better here.

Why African-Americans are moving back to the South
After decades of moving north, thousands of blacks are returning to their Southern roots for economic and cultural reasons.
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Yes, I agree, the government should have been a lot harder on the traitors of the Confederacy. We never should have allowed them to come back into power in the first place.

“Better culture”

Yeah, so long as minorities don’t get “uppity” and do stuff like vote or go to school with white kids, right? :roll:

The fact the government had to send in paratroopers to keep you thugs from attacking those kids was truly astounding.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Yes, I agree, the government should have been a lot harder on the traitors of the Confederacy. We never should have allowed them to come back into power in the first place.

“Better culture”

Yeah, so long as minorities don’t get “uppity” and do stuff like vote or go to school with white kids, right? :roll:

The fact the government had to send in paratroopers to keep you thugs from attacking those kids was truly astounding.
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I see you're from Chicago. How's that body count coming along?
 
Since you are "mired" in southern injustice despite now knowing the north betrayed the blacks a scant few years after the War between the States I thought I'd at least try to bring you up to speed.

Yet another injustice has been inflicted upon the blacks. This time it's the white liberals have failed them. From California to those once great Northern cities black folk are voting with their feet. They're coming back to the south. You can whine and gnash your feet about what the long dead did 150 years ago but those who have failed the blacks in the present lies with........white leftists.

Yeah, that would be "you" guys.

...More recently, however, the Great Migration has reversed itself, with blacks returning to the South. In a broad sense, this reversal fits within a larger demographic shift among Americans in general, who are moving from the Rust Belt to the Sun Belt. But the new black migration is nevertheless significant: not only could it portend major changes to the nation’s politics; it also testifies to the liberal North’s failure to integrate African-Americans into the mainstream. As the historian Walter Russell Mead has observed, that failure is “the most devastating possible indictment of the 20th century liberal enterprise in the United States.”...
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chuckiechan said:
That is why I believe in the military getting 25% of it's manpower from a draft. Let civilians get some skin in the game.
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Sorry, I will pass on that.

It is bad enough serving with that 10% that regret joining and are making everybody miserable by constantly whining and screwing up until they get out or are kicked out. I do not want to serve with people who did not actually join of their own free will unless we are in another major war and have no choice.
 
As far as the original post, I think that Russia should be free to do whatever they want, so long as it is within their own borders, and are not intended to intimidate other nations.

And for me, it goes both ways. We have no right to complain about their war games (or similar activities in China, North Korea, or Pakistan), and they have no right to complain when we do something similar.
 
Oozlefinch said:
As far as the original post, I think that Russia should be free to do whatever they want, so long as it is within their own borders, and are not intended to intimidate other nations.

And for me, it goes both ways. We have no right to complain about their war games (or similar activities in China, North Korea, or Pakistan), and they have no right to complain when we do something similar.
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Rather than complaining (?), the OP article was informational and analytic.
 
Dutch said:
I see you're from Chicago. How's that body count coming along?
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Laughably overblown by dumbass conservatives who think human life is a prop for political posturing.

There are certainly dangerous areas but as a whole Chicago is actually less dangerous than a lot of other cities.

And hey, on the flip side we’ve never needed the 101st Airborne to be called in on our asses.

That alone puts us one up in the hicks in Arkansas.
 
Dutch said:
Since you are "mired" in southern injustice despite now knowing the north betrayed the blacks a scant few years after the War between the States I thought I'd at least try to bring you up to speed.

Yet another injustice has been inflicted upon the blacks. This time it's the white liberals have failed them. From California to those once great Northern cities black folk are voting with their feet. They're coming back to the south. You can whine and gnash your feet about what the long dead did 150 years ago but those who have failed the blacks in the present lies with........white leftists.

Yeah, that would be "you" guys.
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Looks like you forgot about how the quote function works. Running away buddy? It’s okay, fleeing cowardly is a time honored conservative tradition.

Like I’ve said before......your claim about flying a flag showing who are loyal to is rather true.

Southern conservatives, therefore, are not loyal to the United States and therefore no one should bother listening to your ravings.
 
Tigerace117 said:
And hey, on the flip side we’ve never needed the 101st Airborne to be called in on our asses.

That alone puts us one up in the hicks in Arkansas.
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No, not the 101st Division. Just the 1st Armored Division, the 5th Infantry Division, and the Illinois National Guard. Almost 11,000 of them.

That was in 1968, at the request of Mayor Daley after over 18 blocks erupted into rioting that left over 200 buildings destroyed, 11 people dead and over 500 injured.

So yea, that puts you up quite a bit over the "hicks". Nobody was killed when the 101st went into Little Rock. Nobody was injured either.

Oh, also 1,500 National Guard were called in for riots in 1966. 1,000 National Guard for the 1968 DNC convention. And over 2,500 National Guard for the Days of Rage in 1969.
 
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Tigerace117 said:
Laughably overblown by dumbass conservatives who think human life is a prop for political posturing.

There are certainly dangerous areas but as a whole Chicago is actually less dangerous than a lot of other cities.

And hey, on the flip side we’ve never needed the 101st Airborne to be called in on our asses.

That alone puts us one up in the hicks in Arkansas.
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You people have been having race riots for 100 years.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_race_riot_of_1919
 
Oozlefinch said:
No, not the 101st Division. Just the 1st Armored Division, the 5th Infantry Division, and the Illinois National Guard. Almost 11,000 of them.

That was in 1968, at the request of Mayor Daley after over 18 blocks erupted into rioting that left over 200 buildings destroyed, 11 people dead and over 500 injured.

So yea, that puts you up quite a bit over the "hicks". Nobody was killed when the 101st went into Little Rock. Nobody was injured either.

Oh, also 1,500 National Guard were called in for riots in 1966. 1,000 National Guard for the 1968 DNC convention. And over 2,500 National Guard for the Days of Rage in 1969.
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Yeah, and over 600,000 wound up having to be called up to smash the hicks flat when they revolted in the first place. Do you want to keep going? Because I can do this all day.

No one was killed when the 101st went into Little Rock because at the end of the day Neo-Confederates and white supremacists are fundamentally cowards. You see it over and over and over again--- they are more than happy to bomb churches or string up unarmed civilians, but fold like a house of cards otherwise.
 
Tigerace117 said:
You people have been murdering innocent civilians for far longer.

And that's not even getting into the couple hundred thousand US soldiers and sailors that were murdered during the Civil War by your thugs.
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That's what happens when you go up against superior soldiers.
 
apdst said:
That's what happens when you go up against superior soldiers.
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:lamo

The Union Army kicked your “superior soldiers” asses over and over and over again.

Then a bunch of ragtag Mexican rebels did the same thing when some of your officers fled to try and prop up France’s little project.

Compared to the Confederates even Italy looks like a martial superpower
 
With NATO encroaching and treaties being nullified by the US, can you really blame them?

As we prepare to invade Venezuela and build Fort Trump in Poland, can you really blame them?

They would be foolish if they did not prepare for military aggression against them. That is the stock-in-trade for the US.
 
Oozlefinch said:
No, not the 101st Division. Just the 1st Armored Division, the 5th Infantry Division, and the Illinois National Guard. Almost 11,000 of them.

That was in 1968, at the request of Mayor Daley after over 18 blocks erupted into rioting that left over 200 buildings destroyed, 11 people dead and over 500 injured.

So yea, that puts you up quite a bit over the "hicks". Nobody was killed when the 101st went into Little Rock. Nobody was injured either.

Oh, also 1,500 National Guard were called in for riots in 1966. 1,000 National Guard for the 1968 DNC convention. And over 2,500 National Guard for the Days of Rage in 1969.
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You forgot the Kent State shooting of 1970 by the Ohio National Guard. 4 students were killed and nine injured (one suffered permanent paralysis).
 
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