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    Re: Cadets in Training: America's Allies and Enemies Prepare

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    Re: Cadets in Training: America's Allies and Enemies Prepare

    BTW - - A combat experienced E-5 with 4 or more years under their belt should have been paid more than any O-1..... My opinion.
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    Re: Cadets in Training: America's Allies and Enemies Prepare

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    Prospective Rotc cadets compete to receive an Army scholarship, but first they must go through the infamous scholarship board that consists of very strange regular Army cadre members -- as presented in the video parody. The prerequisite is of course to be accepted to the college or university first. Then apply to Rotc, then apply for a scholarship.


    Penn State Army Rotc Military Science I Skit: Scholarship Board Parody



    Three cadets of MS III (college juniors) portray the regular Army assistant professor of military science Captain Rizzo, Master Sergeant Dukes (R) and the unstable Sergeant First Class E-7 "Badass" Allman (L). Fortunately for the Army and the Marines not every SFC E-7 or Gunnery Sergeant E-7 of Marines is a psycho as presented humorously in the video by the Rotc cadets at Penn State. The gal cadet in the skit was in high school junior Rotc, in Miami hence the music on her entry into the interview, which runs parallel to my own experience in Junior Rotc in high school. It is a leg up in the scholarship consideration process by the uni cadre which makes its decisive recommendation to Department of the Army.

    An Rotc scholarship of any armed service is competitive and tough to nail down as a four year award given tuition and fees at a public college or university run in a neighborhood average of $100,000. At a private college or university it's typically more than double that, or $250,000.


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    Cost to the taxpayer per cadet at West Point is roughly the same as at a private college, or $250,000 which is the highest of the three service academies (Annapolis is least). So as we say in the Army you get what you pay for hah. The USMA sum covers military costs, barracks, food.

    As for Rotc, cadets get room and board, book allowances and a monthly "allowance." The Rotc additional and current monthly allowance begins at $300 and increases to $600 during the final two years. West Point cadets allowance starts at $900 per month which increases variably in the final two years. When I was in Rotc 1962-66 we got $40 bucks a month which was increased to $50 bless 'em but only by the Rotc Act of 1964 that reorganized, refinanced and restructured Rotc.

    Separation and recoupment: With some separations, the cadet must perform service as an enlisted; with others the cadet must reimburse the Army; still others qualify as exempt and without further obligation. Monies owed because the cadet did not fulfill a later military service requirement are not dischargable under Chapter 7 or Chapter 13 bankruptcy. I did not have any of this experience as I completed my program successfully and graduated into the Army and fulfilled my military service obligation via active duty with an honorable character of separation after the contractually required four years.
    At this point, there were 25 posts and 24 of them were yours.
    Doesn't sound like you want to discuss much.

    but...I was also a member of the United States Naval Sea Cadet Corps. All kids of that age group are drown to military stuff.
    No big deal.

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    Re: Cadets in Training: America's Allies and Enemies Prepare

    Quote Originally Posted by PleasantValley View Post
    At this point, there were 25 posts and 24 of them were yours.
    Doesn't sound like you want to discuss much.

    but...I was also a member of the United States Naval Sea Cadet Corps. All kids of that age group are drown to military stuff.
    No big deal.

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    Naval Sea Cadet Corps.... Drown.

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    Re: Cadets in Training: America's Allies and Enemies Prepare

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    Naval Sea Cadet Corps.... Drown.

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    Whooooosh! Right over my head.
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    Re: Cadets in Training: America's Allies and Enemies Prepare

    Quote Originally Posted by PleasantValley View Post
    Whooooosh! Right over my head.
    I normally don't call it out except when it is as ironic as this.

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    Re: Cadets in Training: America's Allies and Enemies Prepare

    Quote Originally Posted by PleasantValley View Post
    At this point, there were 25 posts and 24 of them were yours.
    Doesn't sound like you want to discuss much.

    but...I was also a member of the United States Naval Sea Cadet Corps. All kids of that age group are drown to military stuff.
    No big deal.

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    Thanks much PleasantValley and yes discussion is what we come to the board for. The military forum is for war stories exactly so your accounts, experiences, impressions to include precious memories of the cadet experience and life is the core of it.

    So I don't understand the silence throughout as I continue to post videos with lots of videos in the bank as it were. I've focused on allies and enemies in foreign places and lands but the cadet experience here at home in the USA is what we here know, experienced and are fond of and are more than welcome to recall and hash over.

    We know USA has numerous cadet organizations in all branches that are affiliated with the Pentagon plus Rotc junior and senior at colleges and academies and so on. It'd be great if at this thread we could get into personal stories of the cadet experience so thanks again for linking to your own.
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    Re: Cadets in Training: America's Allies and Enemies Prepare

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    Thanks much PleasantValley and yes discussion is what we come to the board for. The military forum is for war stories exactly so your accounts, experiences, impressions to include precious memories of the cadet experience and life is the core of it.

    So I don't understand the silence throughout as I continue to post videos with lots of videos in the bank as it were. I've focused on allies and enemies in foreign places and lands but the cadet experience here at home in the USA is what we here know, experienced and are fond of and are more than welcome to recall and hash over.

    We know USA has numerous cadet organizations in all branches that are affiliated with the Pentagon plus Rotc junior and senior at colleges and academies and so on. It'd be great if at this thread we could get into personal stories of the cadet experience so thanks again for linking to your own.
    The silence could be because the military people have little interest in cadets marching around and playing soldier and the non-military folks little to none....
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    Re: Cadets in Training: America's Allies and Enemies Prepare

    Quote Originally Posted by Tangmo View Post
    I've pointed out that to the Pentagon Japan has become in the East as UK continues to be to the US in the West. The three have in fact teamed up in a formal alliance to restrain and contain China militarily. Beijing's hopes Russia would team with it as a response has not formalized itself. In fact the US just last week sent a destroyer into waters claimed by Russia against US ally Japan to prove the Russian claims mean nothing in the law.

    US also sent last week a destroyer into Beijing claimed waters near the Paracel Islands in the South China Sea inside Vietnam territorial waters under the UN ICLOS. UK has committed one of its new aircraft carriers to the SCS on its commissioning.

    Much as UK the island country off the continent of Europe and at the Atlantic Ocean has been the vital US ally for a century, Japan the island nation off the continent of Asia and at the Pacific has the same strategic value on the other side of the world.


    America, Japan and the UK: A New Three-Way Alliance against China?

    Three of the most powerful democracies in the world are teaming up.



    An AV-8B Harrier takes off from the flight deck of USS Bonhomme Richard . Flickr/Department of Defense


    On October 20, 2016, the chief of the Japanese Maritime Force and the chiefs of the British and U.S. navies sat across the table from each other at the Pentagon to sign a trilateral cooperation agreement. This agreement commits all three navies to closer cooperation, with increased exercises and joint patrols in the future.

    This agreement sets forth a roadmap for what it calls “mutually desired strategic effects.” The tightening of UK-Japan relations comes at a time when rising powers in Asia-Pacific are causing critical uncertainty in the region and beyond. This has led to policymakers strengthening alliances around the world. The United Kingdom and Japan are a strong example of such an alliance that has been redoubled in recent years.

    https://nationalinterest.org/feature...st-china-20019



    Military cadets in senior programs and junior programs are impacted by these issues, disputes, concerns as we've seen in scrolling. Their education, training and development is preparing them to lead the military forces of the US and allies in the turbulent times internationally and globally. Hence I open a thread to examine and discuss this and related concerns.
    I strongly agree that these alliances with the UK, and Japan are vital on both sides of the oceans. Let's not forget Australia that is also a vital part of this Asian-Pacific alliance group. ITMT, we can thank Obama and his administration for leading from behind for eight years that have shaped and strengthen our adversaries Russia, China and Iran. Had Obama reacted swiftly in the case of the invasion of the Ukraine and the Crimean peninsula, perhaps these Naval Cadets would not have to make the decision they must make today. The same thing holds true in the Pacific with the Chinese attempts to take over the Spratly Islands and now the Paracel Island group that threaten both the Philippines and Taiwan.
    Pres. Trump appears to have been able to slow theses expansions of both China and Russia, yet our political opponents the Progressive Marxist Socialist Democrat Leftist continue to oppose him and his accomplishments.

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    Re: Cadets in Training: America's Allies and Enemies Prepare

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    I strongly agree that these alliances with the UK, and Japan are vital on both sides of the oceans. Let's not forget Australia that is also a vital part of this Asian-Pacific alliance group. ITMT, we can thank Obama and his administration for leading from behind for eight years that have shaped and strengthen our adversaries Russia, China and Iran. Had Obama reacted swiftly in the case of the invasion of the Ukraine and the Crimean peninsula, perhaps these Naval Cadets would not have to make the decision they must make today. The same thing holds true in the Pacific with the Chinese attempts to take over the Spratly Islands and now the Paracel Island group that threaten both the Philippines and Taiwan.
    Pres. Trump appears to have been able to slow theses expansions of both China and Russia, yet our political opponents the Progressive Marxist Socialist Democrat Leftist continue to oppose him and his accomplishments.
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