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Which country killed the most enemy soldiers in WW2?

The high estimates I am seeing have total deaths in China (mil and civ) being less than the USSR military casualties alone. Russia lost up to 11 million soldiers...

I think the more interesting question is who killed more Russian soldiers, the Nazis or the Soviets?

I'm fairly confident that in terms of which nation killed the most enemy combatants:

Germany
Soviet Union
Japan

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It's a hard thing to count, but based on Military deaths, I'm fairly confident in that.

After that it gets a hell of a lot more murky, probably USA then Britain.

There is a bit of an issue with my top three and that is when someone might consider WWII to have started, I believe its a very Western-centric idea, that it began with Germanys invasion of Poland, but if one were to stick that rigid idea, it may throw Japan off that 3rd spot.
 
Found this in a bit of searching...not sure how good it is, but seems to line up with what a lot of folks are saying:

Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls

This grid essentially lines up countries by deaths and which country was to blame. So, x number of Russians were killed by y number of Germans. Funny thing, Italy doesn't even make the list...on either Italian deaths or Italian kills. Nationalist Chinese, with 600,000 kills in China, made the list over what Italy managed to do in WW2...hehe... OP, you might wanna take that one out of your list. :)

(No disrespect to Italian veterans implied)

Germany
Japan
Russia
UK
US
Nationalist Chinese
Romanians
Croats

...according to the link above.
 
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Found this in a bit of searching...not sure how good it is, but seems to line up with what a lot of folks are saying:

Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls

This grid essentially lines up countries by deaths and which country was to blame. So, x number of Russians were killed by y number of Germans. Funny thing, Italy doesn't even make the list...on either Italian deaths or Italian kills. Nationalist Chinese, with 600,000 kills in China, made the list over what Italy managed to do in WW2...hehe... OP, you might wanna take that one out of your list. :)

(No disrespect to Italian veterans implied)

Germany
Japan
Russia
UK
US
Nationalist Chinese
Romanians
Croats

...according to the link above.
concidering how the Jewish figure is overstated by a factor of ten, we must assume the other “ atrocities “ the Germans participated in are fabricated to the same extent.
 
What are you talking about?

With the Nazis at their throat the Soviets were not going to kill their own soldiers! I have read of one Soviet colonel performing a literal decimation, but Soviet resistance was for the most part ferocious, and not too many decimations need have been contemplated.

I was mostly being facetious, but Stalin considered all Soviet POWs as KIA and refused to negotiate for their ethical treatment. Millions died in captivity. Many became enemies of the state after that war.

And then there were the actions against the military in the years leading up to the war where Stalin imprisoned and ultimate executed anyone in the military that he believed was disloyal... Which was a lot considering how insanely paranoid Stalin was.

And all that being said, when it comes to total unnatural deaths in that era of Soviet citizens I think Stalin is the unquestionable winner.
 
Cconcidering how the Jewish figure is overstated by a factor of ten, we must assume the other “ atrocities “ the Germans participated in are fabricated to the same extent.

Don't ever quote me again, you're disgusting.
 
Who did Russia kill other than Germans? About 100,000 Italians and Rumanians is all I can think of. The Germans killed more Russians than vice versa. Also Germany killed British, French, and Americans.

They killed 20k Japanese troops in 3 weeks.
 
Which country killed the most enemy soldiers in WW2?

Russia lost about 11 million, with Germany killing slightly more than half of them. Lets say 6 million killed by Germany and 5 million killed by Italy. Italy was also tearing things up in the Balkans and North Africa and gave the Allies fits trying to invade them. I'd still give Germany a slight edge in enemy soldiers killed though.

Germany lost about 5 million, probably 4.9 million killed by Russia.

I say:

1. Germany
2. Italy
3. Russia

Italy did very little in Russia or North Africa, appart from having its' arse kicked.

Japan was probably the most prolific killer of ememies appart from the Chineese who made most of the kills killing each other.
 
How many Chinese were killed by Japan?

They were so efficient at killing they convinced large parts of the population to commit suicide.
 
Oh sorry.

Yeah the only thing I have to say to that is... lol.

As dire a state as the Soviet Military was in 1939, Italy would have been unlikely to have been able to take on Poland, let alone them.

Ironically, the German invasion of Russia was made into a muck by the earlier Italian invasion of Greece. The Italians got their asses kicked around by Greek forces, and Germany had to pause planning for BARBAROSSA until they'd reinforced Italy's position. The delay proved fatal: invading in the middle of the summer (crossing the border on the same day of the year that Napoleon did. Woops) meant they wouldn't be able to knock the Soviet Union out of the fight before General Winter came to her rescue.

There was a German joke at the time that, the problem with the Italians as allies was, it took more troops to buttress them than it would have taken to simply defend against them.
 
How many Chinese were killed by Japan?

Japanese policy in northern China was known as the "Three Alls". Burn All. Kill All. Destroy All. When the Japanese went through Nanking, the human rights atrocities were so bad that Nazis complained about them.
 
And all that being said, when it comes to total unnatural deaths in that era of Soviet citizens I think Stalin is the unquestionable winner.

Not even close.
 
The delay proved fatal: invading in the middle of the summer (crossing the border on the same day of the year that Napoleon did. Woops) meant they wouldn't be able to knock the Soviet Union out of the fight before General Winter came to her rescue.

The Germans invading sooner just means they are beaten at the gates of Moscow earlier in the year. The cold certainly didn't help, but what killed Army Group Center was the overexertion of it's logistics at a time when it was facing ten Soviet field armies outside Moscow.
 
Japanese policy in northern China was known as the "Three Alls". Burn All. Kill All. Destroy All. When the Japanese went through Nanking, the human rights atrocities were so bad that Nazis complained about them.

So it very well could be the Chinese suffered the most lossed?
 
Ironically, the German invasion of Russia was made into a muck by the earlier Italian invasion of Greece. The Italians got their asses kicked around by Greek forces, and Germany had to pause planning for BARBAROSSA until they'd reinforced Italy's position. The delay proved fatal: invading in the middle of the summer (crossing the border on the same day of the year that Napoleon did. Woops) meant they wouldn't be able to knock the Soviet Union out of the fight before General Winter came to her rescue.

There was a German joke at the time that, the problem with the Italians as allies was, it took more troops to buttress them than it would have taken to simply defend against them.

This is a fantastic video on some of the reasons the Italian Military was so ****ed:

 
Japanese policy in northern China was known as the "Three Alls". Burn All. Kill All. Destroy All. When the Japanese went through Nanking, the human rights atrocities were so bad that Nazis complained about them.

Rabe and his buddies from Germany might’ve been National Socialists but they were hugely humanitarians.
 
Which country killed the most enemy soldiers in WW2?

Russia lost about 11 million, with Germany killing slightly more than half of them. Lets say 6 million killed by Germany and 5 million killed by Italy. Italy was also tearing things up in the Balkans and North Africa and gave the Allies fits trying to invade them. I'd still give Germany a slight edge in enemy soldiers killed though.

Germany lost about 5 million, probably 4.9 million killed by Russia.

I say:

1. Germany
2. Italy
3. Russia

well , "Russia" fought ww2 on German size, buy a book
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Per Ukraine (SSR) during WW2, there were 1,650,000 military deaths, and 5,200,000 civilian deaths for a total of 6,850,000 dead. 16.3% of the Ukraine population.
 
I would count POWs because they had to capture them first. I wouldn't count civilians killed though. How do you think a war between Germany and Italy would have gone?

Pretty much like it went in real history. Germany pretty much took over Italy in 1943.

After the Invasion of Sicily and the Rome Air Raid, the Fascist Council voted to reduce the power of Il Lamp Ornament, and handed all government control back to King Victor Emmanuel III. The following day Il Lamp Ornament met with the King, who dismissed him as Prime Minister and ordered him imprisoned. They then entered talks with the Allies to either become neutral and leave the Axis, or to actively join the Allied cause.

And during this time, the Germans quietly "invaded", the roughly 500,000 man German Army ruled the nation in actuality. The Italians only controlled the areas the Allies held.

Germany invades Russia with neither country having allies.

Italy invades Russia with no country having allies.

Impossible. Neither Germany nor Italy had any capability to invade the Soviet Union.

Before Germany was able to do that, they had to take over several other nations first, and turn them into nominal allies. True, Poland and other countries were allies at the point of a gun. But they were allies.

If you were familiar with WWII history you would know that the Italian military was a hapless mess, and a minor contributor to the axis. Most axis troops in Russia were German, and the entire Axis in North Africa were but a few to several divisions - a drop in the axis battle order (Germany sent 150 divisions into Russia, by comparison).

The Italian Army was a mess because of incompetence and a national culture that had largely been introspective. By the early 20th century, Italy as a people had no real interest in expansion. They had a few colonies in Africa, and a few protectorates they had acquired in the aftermath of WWI. And the times they had tried to expand their areas of influence in Africa through conquest, it never went their way.

They also were not ready for war when Der Paper Hangar invaded Poland. Their economy was still rebuilding, their industrial capacity was not yet geared up to a war time footing, and their military was still small. They had not even started to stockpile needed resources (oil, coal, steel, rubber), a requirement before a nation can wage war successfully.

What they were a major provider of was inspiration, as the founders of the Fascist Movement.
 
Ironically, the German invasion of Russia was made into a muck by the earlier Italian invasion of Greece. The Italians got their asses kicked around by Greek forces, and Germany had to pause planning for BARBAROSSA until they'd reinforced Italy's position. The delay proved fatal: invading in the middle of the summer (crossing the border on the same day of the year that Napoleon did. Woops) meant they wouldn't be able to knock the Soviet Union out of the fight before General Winter came to her rescue.

The Germans invading sooner just means they are beaten at the gates of Moscow earlier in the year. The cold certainly didn't help, but what killed Army Group Center was the overexertion of it's logistics at a time when it was facing ten Soviet field armies outside Moscow.

Actually, Germany could not have invaded earlier than they had.

Most people tend to think that it was "General Winter" that defeated the German Army, that is wrong. What actually foiled them was Raputitsa. The "Season of Mud".

Which is actually somewhat of a misnomer, it is actually "seasons".

There are 2 time periods where invasions of the Soviet Union was not possible. Spring and Fall. In the Fall you have the Fall Raputitsa, this is what ultimately ended the German advance on Moscow. It generally starts in mid-late October, and makes almost all road travel impossible. And this season ends when the ground freezes in early November.

Then you have the Spring Raputitsa. This is the worst one, because not only does all the mud that had been frozen thaw out, but it is compounded by the winter snows and spring rains. And the German Army had both of these seasons work against them in 1941.

First, the Spring 1941 Raputitsa was longer than usual, lasting until early May. There is simply no way the German Army could have invaded sooner than that, they would have become quickly mired in the endless mud flats of the Western Soviet Union if they had tried. They had originally planned to invade in May (normally the mud is gone by then), but in 1941 they could not do this.

And their entire battle plan was to rush for Moscow and secure it before the fall Raputitsa set in. Or failing that, to hold in place until the winter freeze allowed them to move again.

But things worked against them in 1941. The rainy season that year started in early October, and the freeze did not come until early December. That was almost 2 months of little offensive actions, and few supplies reaching the front lines. By the time the ground was hard enough to resume the campaign, the Soviets were ready and we all know what happened then.

This was their own territory, and they knew what to expect. The Soviet Army had equipment that had evolved over centuries for dealing with those conditions. The Germans had none of that and suffered for it.
 
I was mostly being facetious, but Stalin considered all Soviet POWs as KIA and refused to negotiate for their ethical treatment. Millions died in captivity.
Hitler would never have considered negotiating with the USSR over anything, and it was Germany who bears the entire responsibility for Soviet POW wartime deaths.


Many became enemies of the state after that war.
All were.


And then there were the actions against the military in the years leading up to the war where Stalin imprisoned and ultimate executed anyone in the military that he believed was disloyal... Which was a lot considering how insanely paranoid Stalin was.

And all that being said, when it comes to total unnatural deaths in that era of Soviet citizens I think Stalin is the unquestionable winner.
Per Wiki there were about 8 million WW2 USSR military deaths, and about 18 million WW2 civilian deaths.

Wiki also relates that estimates of USSR non-wartime excess mortality under Stalin could have been anywhere from 6 million to 25 million. IMO lower figures are more likely to be accurate because during WW2 the USSR military always heavily outnumbered the German despite its never-ending huge losses.
 
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