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Revoke My Clearance Too, Mr President.....

Excon said:
Wrong as usual.
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Thx for the strong endorsement from over there. All you got left is right denials. Conservatives conserve and authoritarian autocracy is their number one.


Retired Admiral Bill McRaven speaks for significant others in the armed services besides himself. The lineup is military intelligence professionals against Trump Intelligence And Hacks which means Trump comes to the game overmatched completely. Putin and Russia are suffering the consequences too as the crescendo continues to build throughout Washington. And with an election coming that will determine the future course of the country.

The civil-military order between commanders across the armed services and the civilian leaders of the government in Washington is ruptured, as the targeted shot of Adm. McRaven confirms. It has been developing since AF Gen. John Hyten who is commander of the nuclear arsenal said publicly last fall he'd refuse an "illegal order" from the CinC to launch. This is unprecedented but not unexpected. If you want to read that clip I'll post it to you no problem thx. I'll post it either way in fact thx again.

The only "fire and fury" in Trump's future is what's going to hit him in his you can't miss it ass.



The Military Intelligence Folks Are in Open Revolt

Retired Admiral William McRaven is a different breed of cat.


It is now very obvious that the multiple impact warhead that retired Admiral William McRaven fired off against the president* the other day after El Caudillo Del Mar-A-Lago had taken away John Brennan's security clearance has hit everything at which McRaven aimed it. It has driven the president* to dig himself even deeper into the hole; on Friday, he waved his mighty sword at the other people on his new enemies list, particularly Bruce Ohr. It certainly helped embolden other dissenters among former intelligence officials and military officers. It appears that the entire military-intelligence alumni association is in open revolt.


McRaven is a different breed of cat. After retiring from the Navy, wherein he led the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, McRaven did not become a defense lobbyist or a think-tank commando. Instead, he spent three years as chancellor of the University of Texas system.


And even though the idea of intelligence officials and military officers, retired or otherwise, combining to condemn the civilian political leaders of the country gives me the willies, that doesn't mean they aren't worth listening to, or that, out in the open, they can't present a formidable political force. The president* may have picked a fight this time the dimensions of which we don't yet know.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politi...liam-mcraven-donald-trump-security-clearance/




Trump is meanwhile lying low and close to the ground on this one. Doing a low crawl despite his big ass looking like a tank. Trump has his enemies list derived no doubt in consultation with Putin during their secret meeting in Helsinki. And we still don't know what schemes he and Kim dreamed up during their secret meeting in Singapore. So US military intelligence -- given their inquiring minds -- want to know. Because Trump is beyond no suspicion when it comes to selling out national security, national defense, national sovereignty. And trying to demolish the people in the government and the institutions that are sworn to preserve, protect and defend, under the Constitution.




Admiral’s revolt

The “revolt of the admirals”

Admiral’s revolt |
 
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Tangmo said:
[SUP]Thx for the strong endorsement from over there. All you got left is right denials. Conservatives conserve and authoritarian autocracy is their number one.


Retired Admiral Bill McRaven speaks for significant others in the armed services besides himself. The lineup is military intelligence professionals against Trump Intelligence And Hacks which means Trump comes to the game overmatched completely. Putin and Russia are suffering the consequences too as the crescendo continues to build throughout Washington. And with an election coming that will determine the future course of the country.

The civil-military order between commanders across the armed services and the civilian leaders of the government in Washington is ruptured, as the targeted shot of Adm. McRaven confirms. It has been developing since AF Gen. John Hyten who is commander of the nuclear arsenal said publicly last fall he'd refuse an "illegal order" from the CinC to launch. This is unprecedented but not unexpected. If you want to read that clip I'll post it to you no problem thx. I'll post it either way in fact thx again.

The only "fire and fury" in Trump's future is what's going to hit him in his you can't miss it ass.



The Military Intelligence Folks Are in Open Revolt

Retired Admiral William McRaven is a different breed of cat.


It is now very obvious that the multiple impact warhead that retired Admiral William McRaven fired off against the president* the other day after El Caudillo Del Mar-A-Lago had taken away John Brennan's security clearance has hit everything at which McRaven aimed it. It has driven the president* to dig himself even deeper into the hole; on Friday, he waved his mighty sword at the other people on his new enemies list, particularly Bruce Ohr. It certainly helped embolden other dissenters among former intelligence officials and military officers. It appears that the entire military-intelligence alumni association is in open revolt.


McRaven is a different breed of cat. After retiring from the Navy, wherein he led the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, McRaven did not become a defense lobbyist or a think-tank commando. Instead, he spent three years as chancellor of the University of Texas system.


And even though the idea of intelligence officials and military officers, retired or otherwise, combining to condemn the civilian political leaders of the country gives me the willies, that doesn't mean they aren't worth listening to, or that, out in the open, they can't present a formidable political force. The president* may have picked a fight this time the dimensions of which we don't yet know.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politi...laughable opinions and walls of text to post?
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Excon said:
Open revolt? Hilarious. iLOL
Any more laughable opinions and walls of text to post?
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Thx for the one-liner (that you stretched ingeniously into two of 'em). You're still hanging tough though at 25 words or less. Mostly less. Each you and I are are predictable in some certain ways. So as you post vacuously to me you're going to get two thingys: reading practice plus information and knowledge that is relevant and material to the issues -- thx again.

AF Gen. Hyten the commander of the nuclear arsenal told Trump publicly what Trump could do with any "fire and fury" launch order. Gen. Hyten said his piece to the world 14 days after SecDef James Mattis appointed Hyten to his command.

Trump got shot down unprecedentedly for a CinC/Potus, which Trump is in name only....


General John Hyten Nuclear Commander says Trump Nuclear Launch Order Can Be Refused


On Saturday, Nov.17, 2017, the top officer at U.S. Strategic Command says an order from President Donald Trump or any of his successors to launch nuclear weapons can be refused if that order is determined to be illegal.



Here's the text of it for you to see with your own rightwing Putin-Trump-Fanboyz eyes....

AP) HALIFAX, Nova Scotia — The top officer at U.S. Strategic Command said Saturday an order from President Donald Trump or any of his successors to launch nuclear weapons can be refused if that order is determined to be illegal.

Air Force Gen.John Hyten, commander of Strategic Command, told a panel at the Halifax International Security Forum on Saturday that he and Trump have had conversations about such a scenario and that he would tell Trump he couldn’t carry out an illegal strike. “If it’s illegal, guess what’s going to happen. I’m going to say, ‘Mr President, that’s illegal.’ And guess what he’s going to do? He’s going to say, ‘What would be legal?’” Hyten said.

“And we’ll come up with options with a mix of capabilities to respond to whatever the situation is, and that’s the way it works. ”In the event that Trump decided to launch a nuclear attack, Hyten would provide him with strike options that are legal. The command would control nuclear forces in a war.

The comments come as the threat of nuclear attack from North Korea remains a serious concern and Trump’s critics question his temperament. Trump’s taunting tweets aimed at Pyongyang have sparked concerns primarily among congressional Democrats that he may be inciting a war with North Korea.

During testimony before the Foreign Relations Committee earlier this month, retired Gen. Robert Kehler who served as the head of Strategic Command from January 2011 to November 2013, also said the U.S.armed forces are obligated to follow legal orders, not illegal ones. Hyten said he’s talked it over with Trump. "I think some people think we’re stupid. We’re not stupid people. We think about these things a lot. When you have this responsibility how do you not think about it?” he said. He said he would not obey an illegal order. “You could go to jail for the rest of your life,” he said.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5ilpvXGpupXVSsXG58pbGQ



Sure as shootin that last fact is what scared off Trump for good. Imagine the Trump War Crimes Tribunal right in our own nation's capital besides. (We wouldn't let the Europeans mollycoddle him eh.) Gen. Hyten is btw former commander of Air Force Space Command. So Trump isn't the first space cadet he's run across. And over and through. We see that Hyten doesn't speak in one liners either. Can't imagine anyway who might think these are stupid people commanding the armed forces.
 
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Tangmo said:
[SUP]Thx for the one-liner (that you stretched ingeniously into two of 'em). You're still hanging tough though at 25 words of less. Each you and I are are predictable in some certain ways. So as you post vacuously to me you're going to get two thingys: reading practice plus information and knowledge that is relevant and material to the issues -- thx again.

AF Gen. Hyten the commander of the nuclear arsenal told Trump publicly what Trump could do with any "fire and fury" launch order. Gen. Hyten said his piece to the world 14 days after SecDef James Mattis appointed Hyten to his command.

Trump got shot down unprecedentedly for a CinC/Potus, which Trump is in name only....


General John Hyten Nuclear Commander says Trump Nuclear Launch Order Can Be Refused

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On Saturday, Nov.17, 2017, the top officer at U.S.Strategic Command says an order from President Donald Trump or any of his successors to launch nuclear weapons can be refused if that order is determined to be illegal.



Here's the text of it for you to see with your own rightwing Putin-Trump-Fanboyz eyes....

AP) HALIFAX, Nova Scotia — The top officer at U.S.Strategic Command said Saturday an order from President Donald Trump or any of his successors to launch nuclear weapons can be refused if that order is determined to be illegal.

Air Force Gen.John Hyten, commander of Strategic Command, told a panel at the Halifax International Security Forum on Saturday that he and Trump have had conversations about such a scenario and that he would tell Trump he couldn’t carry out an illegal strike. “If it’s illegal, guess what’s going to happen. I’m going to say, ‘Mr President, that’s illegal.’ And guess what he’s going to do? He’s going to say, ‘What would be legal?’” Hyten said.

“And we’ll come up with options with a mix of capabilities to respond to whatever the situation is, and that’s the way it works. ”In the event that Trump decided to launch a nuclear attack, Hyten would provide him with strike options that are legal. The command would control nuclear forces in a war.

The comments come as the threat of nuclear attack from North Korea remains a serious concern and Trump’s critics question his temperament. Trump’s taunting tweets aimed at Pyongyang have sparked concerns primarily among congressional Democrats that he may be inciting a war with North Korea.

During testimony before the Foreign Relations Committee earlier this month, retired Gen.Robert Kehler who served as the head of Strategic Command from January 2011 to November 2013, also said the U.S.armed forces are obligated to follow legal orders, not illegal ones. Hyten said he’s talked it over with Trump. "I think some people think we’re stupid. We’re not stupid people. We think about these things a lot. When you have this responsibility how do you not think about it?” he said. He said he would not obey an illegal order. “You could go to jail for the rest of your life,” he said.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5...osting another irrelevant wall of text. iLOL
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Excon said:
Besides being wrong as usual, you sure didn't fail at posting another irrelevant wall of text.

iLOL
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Military Joint Chiefs Denounce Charlottesville Racism

Aug.17.2017

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Army Chief Of Staff Mark Milley Addresses National Press Club / Getty Images

A group of military leaders broke with President Donald Trump and rebuked the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville over the weekend — a near-historic development for U.S. civil-military relations.

Since Sunday, five U.S. service chiefs — representing the Army, Air Force, Navy, Marines and National Guard — have tweeted their denunciation of the white nationalists whose rally led to the killing of a counter-protester on Saturday. Two police officers covering the rally also died when their helicopter crashed.

The joint chiefs condemnation of racism and white supremacist groups is notable because it stands in stark contrast with Trump's statements that blamed both white-nationalist marchers and counter-protesters — even though it was a Nazi sympathizer who caused all of the casualties.

It is also remarkable because American military leaders tend to stay outside of the political arena.

The first statement came after Trump — who oftentimes declares his admiration and love for members of the military — waffled over his condemnation of racism during a Saturday press conference for an executive order that affected veterans, blaming "many sides" for the violence in Charlottesville.


Chief of Naval Operations Adm. John Richardson's shared his admonition hours later on Saturday night.

Events in Charlottesville unacceptable & musnt be tolerated @USNavy forever stands against intolerance & hatred...

— Adm. John Richardson



On Monday, the 82nd Airborne's official account brought up World War II history to explain their impatience for Nazis.

Our WWII Airborne forefathers jumped into Europe to defeat Nazism. We know who we are. We know our legacy.
— All American (@82ndABNDiv)

Their statement came after an unidentified man appeared to make the Nazi salute in Charlottesville on Saturday while wearing an 82nd Airborne Division cap.

"Respectfully, anyone who thinks this man represents our culture and values has never worn the maroon beret...and never will," the 82nd Airborne Division wrote in response to the photo.

Would *LOVE* to know the name of Mr. 82nd Airborne Division here rendering Hitler's Nazi salute. The 82nd jumped into Normandy on D-Day.
— Brandon Friedman



Gen. Robert Neller, Commandant of the Marine Corps, earned more than 25,000 retweets after he denounced the weekend's events, stating their was no room in the Marines for it.

No place for racial hatred or extremism in @USMC. Our core values of Honor, Courage, and Commitment frame the way Marines live and act.
— Robert B. Neller



Army Chief of Staff, Gen. Mark Milley, also rebuked racial intolerance in his statement, stating that it stood against the institution's very foundation.

The Army doesn't tolerate racism, extremism, or hatred in our ranks. It's against our Values and everything we've stood for since 1775.
— GEN Mark A. Milley



Later on Wednesday, Gen. Dave Goldfein, Air Force Chief of Staff, and Gen. Joseph Lengyel, Chief of the National Guard Bureau, followed suit.

I stand with my fellow service chiefs in saying we're always stronger together-it's who we are as #Airmen pic.twitter.com/9XxOry93nf
— Gen. Dave Goldfein

I stand with my fellow Joint Chiefs in condemning racism, extremism & hatred. Our diversity is our strength. #NationalGuard
— Gen. Joseph Lengyel



Chairman JCS Gen. Joseph Dunford made the following statement from China:

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Gen. Joseph Dunford in China


At a news conference Thursday, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joe Dunford said he was “saddened” by what he read about the events in Charlottesville.

“I can absolutely and unambiguously tell you that there is no place for racism and bigotry in the U.S. military or in the United States as a whole,” he said. He wasn’t aware that chiefs from the military services would make their views public but said they did the right thing.

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Gen. Dunford said he wasn't aware because Army General Mark Milley dominates the Joint Chiefs.

The military is one of the most integrated institutions in the federal government. According to the Department of Defense, the military is 37 percent nonwhite, which about matches the country at large.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/military-joint-chiefs-denounce-charlottesville-racism-n793376
 
Tangmo said:
[SUP]Military Joint Chiefs Denounce Charlottesville Racism

Aug.17.2017

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Army Chief Of Staff Mark Milley Addresses National Press Club / Getty Images

A group of military leaders broke with President Donald Trump and rebuked the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville over the weekend — a near-historic development for U.S. civil-military relations.

Since Sunday, five U.S. service chiefs — representing the Army, Air Force, Navy, Marines and National Guard — have tweeted their denunciation of the white nationalists whose rally led to the killing of a counter-protester on Saturday. Two police officers covering the rally also died when their helicopter crashed.

The joint chiefs condemnation of racism and white supremacist groups is notable because it stands in stark contrast with Trump's statements that blamed both white-nationalist marchers and counter-protesters — even though it was a Nazi sympathizer who caused all of the casualties.

It is also remarkable because American military leaders tend to stay outside of the political arena.

The first statement came after Trump — who oftentimes declares his admiration and love for members of the military — waffled over his condemnation of racism during a Saturday press conference for an executive order that affected veterans, blaming "many sides" for the violence in Charlottesville.


Chief of Naval Operations Adm. John Richardson's shared his admonition hours later on Saturday night.

Events in Charlottesville unacceptable & musnt be tolerated @USNavy forever stands against intolerance & hatred...

— Adm. John Richardson



On Monday, the 82nd Airborne's official account brought up World War II history to explain their impatience for Nazis.

Our WWII Airborne forefathers jumped into Europe to defeat Nazism. We know who we are. We know our legacy.
— All American (@82ndABNDiv)

Their statement came after an unidentified man appeared to make the Nazi salute in Charlottesville on Saturday while wearing an 82nd Airborne Division cap.

"Respectfully, anyone who thinks this man represents our culture and values has never worn the maroon beret...and never will," the 82nd Airborne Division wrote in response to the photo.

Would *LOVE* to know the name of Mr. 82nd Airborne Division here rendering Hitler's Nazi salute. The 82nd jumped into Normandy on D-Day.
— Brandon Friedman



Gen. Robert Neller, Commandant of the Marine Corps, earned more than 25,000 retweets after he denounced the weekend's events, stating their was no room in the Marines for it.

No place for racial hatred or extremism in @USMC. Our core values of Honor, Courage, and Commitment frame the way Marines live and act.
— Robert B. Neller



Army Chief of Staff, Gen. Mark Milley, also rebuked racial intolerance in his statement, stating that it stood against the institution's very foundation.

The Army doesn't tolerate racism, extremism, or hatred in our ranks. It's against our Values and everything we've stood for since 1775.
— GEN Mark A. Milley



Later on Wednesday, Gen. Dave Goldfein, Air Force Chief of Staff, and Gen. Joseph Lengyel, Chief of the National Guard Bureau, followed suit.

I stand with my fellow service chiefs in saying we're always stronger together-it's who we are as #Airmen pic.twitter.com/9XxOry93nf
— Gen. Dave Goldfein

I stand with my fellow Joint Chiefs in condemning racism, extremism & hatred. Our diversity is our strength. #NationalGuard
— Gen. Joseph Lengyel



Chairman JCS Gen. Joseph Dunford made the following statement from China:

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Gen. Joseph Dunford in China


At a news conference Thursday, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joe Dunford said he was “saddened” by what he read about the events in Charlottesville.

“I can absolutely and unambiguously tell you that there is no place for racism and bigotry in the U.S. military or in the United States as a whole,” he said. He wasn’t aware that chiefs from the military services would make their views public but said they did the right thing.

*******************

Gen. Dunford said he wasn't aware because Army General Mark Milley dominates the Joint Chiefs.

The military is one of the most integrated institutions in the federal government. According to the Department of Defense, the military is 37 percent nonwhite, which about matches the country at large.

[url]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/military-joint-chiefs-denounce-charlottesville-racism-n793376[url][/SUP][/SIZE][/QUOTE]Another irrelevant wall of text? Really?

iLOL
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Admiral retired McRaven has joined actively in defense of the Constitution, and against those who conserve racism while promoting it and committing atrocities in the name of supremacy. Charlottesville of course occurred last year and the joint chiefs on active duty were not pointed in their remarks. Retired Adm. McRaven now and in contrast challenged Trump and threw a gauntlet down at the CinC. Almost all retired career personnel of the armed forces remain subject to the UCMJ, which means Trump could court martial or censor McRaven at will, as CinC/Potus. Trump however hasn't the balls to do any of it.
 
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