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Turkish lawyers want to raid İncirlik Air Base and arrest U.S. Air Force officers

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A group of pro-government Turkish lawyers have reportedly filed charges against U.S. Air Force officers associated with İncirlik Air Base based on allegations that they are connected to a movement that attempted a coup d'état against Turkey’s government in July 2016.

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/...ik-air-base-and-arrest-us-air-force-officers/

I do not see that ever happening.....this is more of a tit for tat measure over the current strained relations with the US.
 
You do know that the airbase is a Turkish airbase right? They could do it if they wanted too..
 
You do know that the airbase is a Turkish airbase right? They could do it if they wanted too..

Yes....and US/Turkish NATO base, and, like an Embassy, there are restrictions on who may enter it.....might have to do with the fact that B61 nuclear weapons are maintained there.

Good luck forcing your way in.
 
Yes....and, like an Embassy, there are restrictions on who may enter it.....might have to do with the fact that B61 nuclear weapons are maintained there.

Good luck forcing your way in.

No not like an embassy... the base is sovereign Turkish territory, and Turkey allows the US and UK to station personnel there. That permission can easily be revoked.
 
No not like an embassy... the base is sovereign Turkish territory, and Turkey allows the US and UK to station personnel there. That permission can easily be revoked.

It can indeed; but the notion that the Turks can enter the US portion at any time until that occurs is a bit delusional.
 
It can indeed; but the notion that the Turks can enter the US portion at any time until that occurs is a bit delusional.

No it is not.. they do it all the time, it is after all NATO base, not a US base. Now if the Turkish judicial can do it, is another matter.

Question that should be asked, is if the US is willing to lose access to a forward base in the Middle East... doubt that. All the US is doing, is pushing Turkey closer and closer to Russia, and that would change the dynamics in the region massively.
 
No it is not.. they do it all the time, it is after all NATO base, not a US base. Now if the Turkish judicial can do it, is another matter.

Question that should be asked, is if the US is willing to lose access to a forward base in the Middle East... doubt that. All the US is doing, is pushing Turkey closer and closer to Russia, and that would change the dynamics in the region massively.

You should probably visit Incirlik before you make that statement...NO, the Turks may NOT come and go in the US section as they please, the Secured Nuclear Facility is highly restricted...and the chance of lawyers conducting a "raid" is such low likelihood, that if it happens, I'll kiss Erdogans butt on the center line of a soccer field, and give him a week to notify his friends.

Turkey does not need the US help leaning closer to Russia...they are managing just fine on their own; and while the geopolitical landscape would change should that come about, Turkey does not want to risk losing out anymore than the US.

Its just posturing by the Turks
 
You should probably visit Incirlik before you make that statement...NO, the Turks may NOT come and go in the US section as they please, the Secured Nuclear Facility is highly restricted...and the chance of lawyers conducting a "raid" is such low likelihood, that if it happens, I'll kiss Erdogans butt on the center line of a soccer field, and give him a week to notify his friends.

Yea yea, no Turks at all can come into the restricted area... none what so ever... sure.. Live in that fantasy. No workmen, no delivery guys.. no secretaries and so on.. They all be red-blooded Americans!

Turkey does not need the US help leaning closer to Russia...they are managing just fine on their own; and while the geopolitical landscape would change should that come about, Turkey does not want to risk losing out anymore than the US.

Historically the Turks have no love lost for the Russians. However NATO wise and geo-politically, Turkeys sole role has been to bottleneck the Russian Navy in the Black Sea. Now that NATO failed to get Russia kicked out of Syria and Crimea, the next battle ground would logically be Turkey. Here the US has lost more and more for a while, and is now playing with fire. Not only is the US relationship with Turkey becoming a problem, but the US relation with NATO as a whole as well.

After Turkey falls to Russia, the next target will be Egypt and Morocco. After that, Russia will have full unhindered access for its Black Sea fleet.

Its just posturing by the Turks

Of course it is, just as it is posturing by the US.
 
Yea yea, no Turks at all can come into the restricted area... none what so ever... sure.. Live in that fantasy. No workmen, no delivery guys.. no secretaries and so on.. They all be red-blooded Americans!

:roll: Never been in a restricted nuclear weapons facility I take it? You might want to apply for a job as a janitor and see just how close you are actually allowed and the number of escorts.

Historically the Turks have no love lost for the Russians. However NATO wise and geo-politically, Turkeys sole role has been to bottleneck the Russian Navy in the Black Sea. Now that NATO failed to get Russia kicked out of Syria and Crimea, the next battle ground would logically be Turkey. Here the US has lost more and more for a while, and is now playing with fire. Not only is the US relationship with Turkey becoming a problem, but the US relation with NATO as a whole as well.

After Turkey falls to Russia, the next target will be Egypt and Morocco. After that, Russia will have full unhindered access for its Black Sea fleet.

I think you have been reading too much Tom Clancy

Of course it is, just as it is posturing by the US.

Its politics....the universal ego preservation game.
 
No not like an embassy... the base is sovereign Turkish territory, and Turkey allows the US and UK to station personnel there. That permission can easily be revoked.

US base = US territory. DO NOT doubt that.
 
The root of this problem is Gulen. Is he supported by the CIA or not? Was USA intrigue involved in the alleged coup attempt? Answer these questions first and then review the nature of the current problem.
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The root of this problem is Gulen. Is he supported by the CIA or not? Was USA intrigue involved in the alleged coup attempt? Answer these questions first and then review the nature of the current problem.
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Note the repeated use of question marks and the CIA acronym... An indicator of a post belonging in the CT forum.
 
Note the repeated use of question marks and the CIA acronym... An indicator of a post belonging in the CT forum.

The post suggest one examine all the "facts" of the matter before accepting MSM adjusted CT.
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The Air Force Times link in the OP seems not to mention some NCO were also charged, as was Gen. Joseph Votel, commander of Central Command, retired Army Gen. John F. Campbell and Air Force Brig. Gen. Rick Boutwell, director of regional affairs for the deputy under secretary of the Air Force who works at the Pentagon.


Once the coup attempt was underway Erdogan's government terminated electric power to Incrilik but the base switched to its own emergency power. Successfully maintaining security over the 50-90 B12 US nuclear warheads took priority of course. The power cutoff disrupted air-to-air refueling for F-16 fighter jets deployed by the leaders of the coup during the night and the next morning. The F-16s which were "hijacked" from a different Turkish air base were central to intimidating government supporters in the streets. Turkish air force helicopters were used to shoot demonstrating civilian government supporters and attack headquarters of police forces in the capital.


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The Turkish parliament building was hit by F-16 attack fighters that were "hijacked" by rebels at Diyarbakir Air Base. The government got only two of its own F-16 fighters airborne during the coup. Coup leaders had command of the air throughout the events. The coup was defeated in the morning when senior Army commanders deployed with heavy weapons to outgun the coup soldiers into a surrender.
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Among those killed during the coup clashes was Erdogan's campaign manager, Erol Olcak, along with his 16-year-old son. The two were among those shot by soldiers holding the Bosporus Bridge to Europe against counter-coup forces. Ilhan Varank, the brother of one of Erdogan's chief advisors, also was killed at the Istanbul municipality headquarters during a shootout with coup soldiers that lasted more than four hours. President Erdogan's top military aide, Col. Ali Yazici was a leader in the coup. Yazici who is normally with Erdogan at all times was in Ankara the night of the coup and was a leader in the seizure of Fahri Kasirga, a top Erdogan adviser.

Two weeks after the unsuccessful coup Erdogan sent 7000 police to Incrilik with heavy trucks to surround and seal the base. The European Affairs Minister said it was a "safety inspection" while Sputnik said it was to stop another coup occurring. US planes were grounded by Erdogan during each event. "We continue to carry out our mission here at Incirlik Air Base, and we are proud of the relationship we have with our Turkish military partners," said Air Force Capt. Amanda Herman, spokeswoman for the base. Incrilik was built by the US in 1954 and is available to the US by a treaty with Turkey, to include Nato.
 
A group of pro-government Turkish lawyers have reportedly filed charges against U.S. Air Force officers associated with İncirlik Air Base based on allegations that they are connected to a movement that attempted a coup d'état against Turkey’s government in July 2016.

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/...ik-air-base-and-arrest-us-air-force-officers/

I do not see that ever happening.....this is more of a tit for tat measure over the current strained relations with the US.

Sadly this has to do with an almost dictator who has made his country into an unstable fake democracy where the rule of law and reason have been replaced by hypernationalism, misuse of faith for political gain and idiocy. The sooner Turkey gets rid of Erdogan the sooner it may recover. Sadly Turks are just as brainwashed as Russians are, both have been indoctrinated to think their leader is great and flawless, so they blame all the bad things in their countries on minorities, political opponents and the "outside" (aka, all other countries).
 
It can indeed; but the notion that the Turks can enter the US portion at any time until that occurs is a bit delusional.

It depends on what is contained in the SOFA. Status of Forces Agreements aren’t backed by international law in the way embassy sovereignty and diplomatic immunity are.
 
It depends on what is contained in the SOFA. Status of Forces Agreements aren’t backed by international law in the way embassy sovereignty and diplomatic immunity are.

Very true but both you and I know the US is not going to let some random Turkish law enforcement officer walk in to a SCIF any old time he pleases. Nor the nulcer storage sites.
 
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