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How Russian Hackers Amplified the Seth Rich Conspiracy Until it Reached Donald Trump and the CIA

Mach said:
And yet You didn’t address all the other evidence. Why not? Because you know it’s CT garbage. Why do you push it? To me it’s immoral, unethical, and inconceivable that an adult of sound mind would carry on like that.

How did the DNC fake the isp traffic source and destination? How did they fake the server lease? How did they fake the bitcoin exchange for it? How about the tracks back to the gru? The motive? The numerous prior attacks not just on the dnc but many other networks? Guccifer. The phishing software dnc people actually opened in a link that made them vulnerable?

Good lord Mycroft, that’s insanity...not conspiracy. FBI accepted a professional cyber security firm because they know them, and their reputation, and it’s not even entirely necessary given the mountain of other evidence they can draw on.

Your single cherry picked objection also lacks evidence to back your claim, why is that? I thought you only operated on evidence. What a load of manure.
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Before I believe this "evidence" of yours...evidence that reveals classified NSA intelligence...you are going to have to back it up.
 
Mycroft said:
Before I believe this "evidence" of yours...evidence that reveals classified NSA intelligence...you are going to have to back it up.
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Are you this thick? The FBI, CIA, NSA, and DHS all contract with select private IT security firms. The best go to where the pay is best.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Are you this thick? The FBI, CIA, NSA, and DHS all contract with select private IT security firms. The best go to where the pay is best.
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So...you can't back up this evidence you speak about.

Okay.
 
Mycroft said:
Before I believe this "evidence" of yours...evidence that reveals classified NSA intelligence...you are going to have to back it up.
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You have evidenced time and again you will not believe anything that doesn't fit your emotional belief.

You believed Obama was ineligible to be president:
- based on no evidence
- in spite of all the evidence that he was eligible

Same thing here.
- No evidence points to anything else
- All evidence up to and including the Mueller detailed indictments, points to Russian hacking

So Mycroft claims that this is therefore a conspiracy theory (!!!!) Too funny.

yes Mycroft, the entire world operates on CT theory, except you, who operates on "facts". That's like the ultimate expression conspiracy theory nuttery.. it's like an ascension to a new power level, "Avatar of Conspiracy Theories", the final form.
 
Mach said:
~snipped the continued deflection~
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You said this and you expect me to believe it:

They tracked the hackers using NSA signals from the ISPs they went through....from the servers they leased, all the way back to Russia
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I asked for evidence to support this contention of yours.

You won't give it.

Dismissed.
 
It's in the indictment, where did you think it was, the mothership's servers?

https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download

A fraction of the evidence that Mueller's team took the time to give to you, that you didn't read.

a. For example, beginning on or about March 15, 2016, YERMAKOV ran a technical query for the DNC’s internet protocol configurations to identify connected devices.
b. On or about the same day, YERMAKOV searched for open-source information about the DNC network, the Democratic Party, and Hillary Clinton.
c. On or about April 7, 2016, YERMAKOV ran a technical query for the DCCC’s internet protocol configurations to identify connected devices.
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Hrm, this wasn't on the DNC server, they don't need the server for this. HOW CAN THIS BE!!?! Call the mothership, this makes no sense!!

Or this:
On or about April 19, 2016, KOZACHEK, YERSHOV, and their co-conspirators remotely configured an overseas computer to relay communications between X-Agent malware and the AMS panel and then tested X-Agent’s ability to connect to this computer. The Conspirators referred to this computer as a “middle server.” The middle server acted as a proxy to obscure the connection between malware at the DCCC and the Conspirators’ AMS panel. On or about April
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An overseas computer!?! What about that server!!! Curse you Obama!!
 
Mycroft said:
Before I believe this "evidence" of yours...evidence that reveals classified NSA intelligence...you are going to have to back it up.
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Hillary said so. That's proof enough for many.
 
Mycroft said:
Until the DNC servers have been thoroughly examined by honest LE forensic teams, the whole hacking issue is a CT.
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So you believe Putin too? You need to examine your thinking ability, it is sorely lacking.
 
Mycroft said:
It's your contention...you find it.



Whatabout Putin!!

You are both dismissed.
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There's you problem. You don't have anything because you don't think. Your man Putin said he wanted Trump to win. At least you can admit that.
 
iguanaman said:
So you believe Putin too? You need to examine your thinking ability, it is sorely lacking.
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Putin has far more credibility these days than does anybody in the US government, a collection of liars and perjurers.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Putin has far more credibility these days than does anybody in the US government, a collection of liars and perjurers.
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LOL If you are talking about Trump and his crew of liars I would agree that they are just as bad as Putin. In fact I believe that Trump in cahoots with the murderous despot and our nations survival depends on this being exposed to the world.
 
iguanaman said:
LOL If you are talking about Trump and his crew of liars I would agree that they are just as bad as Putin. In fact I believe that Trump in cahoots with the murderous despot and our nations survival depends on this being exposed to the world.
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That is exactly the fantasy they want you to embrace, so a Gold Star for you! :mrgreen:
 
Thoreau72 said:
That is exactly the fantasy they want you to embrace, so a Gold Star for you! :mrgreen:
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It's not "fantasy" when you can see it with your own eyes and hear Trumps words with your own ears.. Denying reality seems to be your specialty.

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iguanaman said:
It's not "fantasy" when you can see it with your own eyes and hear Trumps words with your own ears.. Denying reality seems to be your specialty.

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Buying into the fantasies advanced by our media and ruling class seems very much to be your specialty. Beautiful new clothes the emperor is wearing, eh? :lol:
 
Thoreau72 said:
Buying into the fantasies advanced by our media and ruling class seems very much to be your specialty. Beautiful new clothes the emperor is wearing, eh? :lol:
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And denying reality appears to be your specialty. Billionaires like Trump and Putin ARE the ruling class, did you not know that? You should be very afraid of what they are planning together. Trump is already testing our checks and balances to the limit. They are holding but no one knows for how long.
 
Mycroft said:
This thread belongs in the CT forum.
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I agree.

Especially since it apparently has not a damned thing to do with the military.

This is typical CT behavior. Crap their stuff anywhere, if it belongs or not.
 
iguanaman said:
And denying reality appears to be your specialty. Billionaires like Trump and Putin ARE the ruling class, did you not know that? You should be very afraid of what they are planning together. Trump is already testing our checks and balances to the limit. They are holding but no one knows for how long.
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Don't forget Satan. Certainly he is telling both Putin and Trump what to do.

Our checks and balances incorporated into the founding document failed long ago. There are very damn few principled men in the federal government. Our elected representatives nullified the 4th Amendment with the patriot act, and Habeas with Military Commissions Act, qualifying them as "domestic enemies". Wake up and smell the napalm sir, the document is but ashes on the ground. Reality can be most unpleasant.
 
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