IIRC, Trump thinks he knows more than the generals.
Purple:
Why don't you call someone that gives a ****?
WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary James Mattis learned in May from a colleague that President Donald Trump had made the decision to withdraw the U.S. from the Iran nuclear deal, and scrambled to get his boss on the phone before a formal announcement was made. It wouldn't be the last time he was caught off guard by a presidential announcement.
I was curious to see what this was about, since I have the OP on permanent block. And once again, I see why.
First of all, who wrote this article? Well, it is none other than Courtney Kube and Carol Lee. In case these names are not familiar, these are the same 2 that reported last year that the President ordered a "tenfold increase in nuclear weapons". A claim that got some people to talking, until Secretary Mattis absolutely blew it out of the water, stating it was not only false, but a stupid claim.
And now that the Secretary has blasted their last story, they seem to be trying to go after him.
Now look at that very first line of the article, which I have reposted here. And apply your critical thinking skills to it.
Why on earth would the President talk to the Secretary of Defense over a matter that has nothing to do with him? Treaties and the like are the prevue of the Secretary of State. And this is not even that, since it is only an Executive Order, and not even an actual treaty.
So realistically, this makes about as much sense as screaming that the President did not talk to the Secretary of Education before making a decision about forestry, since that might impact the production of paper that impacts books. When such a decision belongs with the Secretary of the Interior.
This is yet another nonsensical political issue, and has nothing to do with the military let alone reality. Other than in the minds of those with TDS.
Putin meanwhile is poisoning Brits for free again which offends profoundly the Pentagon national security commanders and the intelligence community. No nationality can feel safe or secure in their homeland from the long arm of Vladimir Putin's bad chemistry. Trump and the Republican party are soliciting Putin to throw in with Putin to demolish Nato and the EU. Each alliance is the bulwark of post WW II global stability. Trump is going to Britain in the summer to further diss our strongest and longest term ally. There is much much more but Trump in these matters alone is digging his own political pit. Sawing off the plank.
WTF are you talking about?
It's the revenge of the defeated ca 1945.
And of the crushed ca 1991.
The new axis. The one we once fought against and smashed. Returning now as zombies to get even and moreover to reassert their original intentions, designs, plans in the homeland of the allied victors. The United States first and foremost. This shall not stand.
Seems to me this is yet another thread more appropriate in the CT section than it is here.
SecDef Jim Mattis likes it so much when you reup that he'll do it himself for and with you...
Nothing unusual here. I have seen a great number of reenlistments done by VIPs over the years. While I was deployed, I attended one that was performed by General Petraeus. A gal in my unit simply sent his office an e-mail and her request was granted. A week later when he was next at our base he came down to our Command Post and swore her and 8 others in.
In my own initial enlistment, I was sworn in by US Senator Pete Wilson.
In my experience, one thing that all Officers and Veterans in a position to administer the oath take it as a real honor. Other than initial entry, anybody who reenlists generally has any officer in the unit available to administer the oath. Or even higher officers. I have seen Brigade Commanders, Division Commanders, even as I said the CentCom Commander and other politicians doing the oath (including a Governor, 3 US Senators, and a retired Major who was famous in the Corps in the 1980's as an author of a series of books of "Sea Stories").
And even the location is often whatever the individual wants. I have seen them done on top of PATRIOT launchers and M1 tanks, at 35,000 feet in a C-130 flying over Iraq, even in front of a waterfall in the jungles of Panama and in the gas chamber on Okinawa. For my last one at Fort Bliss I requested and got mine done on top of the repelling tower.
Yeah. I read the OP, and the officials who make the claim remain un-named. Odd that those who dispute the OP are named.
I've never seen so much made up bull**** since they've tried sinking Kavanaugh. The sick part about these haters is that they HOPE that Trump isn't listening to his generals, maybe in some delusional belief that he'll **** up something really big militarily, and then get impeached. I think Democrats have gone so far off the deep-end that they will go for anything insane in order to get rid of Trump.
I've never seen so much made up bull**** since they've tried sinking Kavanaugh. The sick part about these haters is that they HOPE that Trump isn't listening to his generals, maybe in some delusional belief that he'll **** up something really big militarily, and then get impeached. I think Democrats have gone so far off the deep-end that they will go for anything insane in order to get rid of Trump.
I think that a lot of people are wanting to see a divide between the General and the President. Because they do not like what he sees.
Mad Dog is the epitome of what a General should be. And in many ways, he reminds me of another great leader from the past, Jim Webb.
And the two have a lot in common. Both are nominally Democrats, but have dedicated their life to serving the country. Both have served in high positions in the DoD under a Republican, and have put aside any kind of political squabbling in order to accomplish their jobs (as had Mr. Webb who was Secretary of the Navy under President Reagan). And both are Marines.
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Funny how we keep hearing this pop up every so often, yet the General remains. And I expect him to remain, unless he resigns because of poor health, or over a major contention with the President as Mr. Webb had (that had been over the cancelling of his predecessors "600 ship fleet"). As was the Secretary before him, Secretary Webb had strongly pushed for the 600 ship fleet, and resigned when he was not only to not see this happen, but was being pushed to reduce the size of the Navy even further. But one of his most lasting accomplishments was appointing General Gray as Commandant of the Marines, leading to a major change in how that branch trained and operated.
Reports are that Mattis has not forwarded to Trump a viable military option on either North Korea or Iran. We know well about NK. As for Iran, Mattis isn't giving Trump ammunition Trump wants, i.e., options, to blow some Iranian small boats out of the water. Mattis simply doesn't send that kind of stuff to Trump's desk. Mattis knows better. So do the Joint Chiefs.
Don't believe any of this. Contrary to the claim, I do NOT believe commanders of our military are violating their oath like anonymous source claims they are.
The military oath is to the Constitution period. Potus/CinC is not in the officer oath. Potus is mentioned in the enlisted oath yet he is superseded by the fact EP too take their oath to the Constitution. The Constitution is more important than the Potus and the Constitution is superior to the CinC. This is taught thoroughly in officer education although it is overlooked grossly in EP education and training. Ordinary people in everyday life are oblivious to it.