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Russia Says It Told U.S. Where In Syria It Was Allowed To Bomb

sangha said:
Did I characterize the size or the impact of the explosion in any way?

If not, why did you dishonestly imply that my words did?



And the bombings are in no way comparable. Comparing them is dishonest.
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Point being explosions leave a lot of undamaged paper and combustibles.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Russia Says It Told U.S. Where In Syria It Was Allowed To Bomb

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I wonder if Trump had to say 'Please'.

The Kremlin is slapping the US around in public with all manner of propaganda and disinformation, but the only sound from Washington is crickets.
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Russia has spent how much using disinformation tactics during our elections and yet for some odd reason you believe them on this? Why?
 
Fledermaus said:
Point being explosions leave a lot of undamaged paper and combustibles.
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Why are you dodging my questions?

Is it because they show how dishonest you have been?

sangha said:
Did I characterize the size or the impact of the explosion in any way?

If not, why did you dishonestly imply that my words did?
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Captain Adverse said:
We have to believe them when it makes Trump look bad...but we are also supposed to disbelieve them when they say anything else.

Funny, isn't it?
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They aren't the least bit embaressed about it, either.
 
braindrain said:
You should probably just stop. Fledermaus is making you look rather silly and proving Just how much your opinion is based on what you see in movies.
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Has absolutely nothing to do with what I see I movies, but what I know about fires, explosions and photography, all first hand.
 
sangha said:
That is a good thing, but if Israel is lying, they would have a reason for doing so. Cannot say for sure what that reason is but the obvious would be that they wanted to see stronger action taken, which would not be the case if we had actually done some serious damage to Syrian chemical weapons program.
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Comparing the descriptions of the various sides, it seems that both the Pentagon/Trump and Russia/Syria are at the least exaggerating the effectiveness of the attack and counter-measures, respectively. For example, given the number and type of missiles used and looking at the damage, it seems obvious even to me that a decent % did not hit their targets.

Some references:
https://www.quora.com/Tomahawk-miss...omahawk-explosion-compare-to-airdropped-bombs

https://www.quora.com/How-many-Tomahawk-missiles-were-shot-down-by-the-Syrian-missile-defense
 
Fledermaus said:
Point being explosions leave a lot of undamaged paper and combustibles.
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Yes they do but not only in front and none behind as in your original photo. Those would have either been blown in, I Wich case they would be more random and extend into the background, AND not have several peieces held in place by hand size rocks ( none under large debris).

In the background of the photo there is smoke rising meaning the debris was supposedly still hot, and yet no discoloration or singed edges on any of the paper in the forefront.
 
Fledermaus said:
Except you appear ignorant of the paper and combustibles that remain after a blast
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Tell ya what you go out and put a chunk of rock or concrete on your grill for a few minutes. In the meantime go in and grab a peice of printer paper, remove the rock/concrete place the paper on top.

It it stays pristine I will will rethink my position, if you are willing to do the same if it discolors.

I don't have to do it, I know what will happen. I have grown up around campfires, fireplaces,wood stoves for my wholesale life I heated my house with a wood stove I my dining room for over ten years, I have literally seen thousands of tons of paper burnt in my life and I k ow how it acts around different levels of heat.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
Comparing the descriptions of the various sides, it seems that both the Pentagon/Trump and Russia/Syria are at the least exaggerating the effectiveness of the attack and counter-measures, respectively. For example, given the number and type of missiles used and looking at the damage, it seems obvious even to me that a decent % did not hit their targets.

Some references:
https://www.quora.com/Tomahawk-miss...omahawk-explosion-compare-to-airdropped-bombs

https://www.quora.com/How-many-Tomahawk-missiles-were-shot-down-by-the-Syrian-missile-defense
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Post #58....

Looks all blowed up to me.
 
GDViking said:
Tell ya what you go out and put a chunk of rock or concrete on your grill for a few minutes. In the meantime go in and grab a peice of printer paper, remove the rock/concrete place the paper on top.

It it stays pristine I will will rethink my position, if you are willing to do the same if it discolors.

I don't have to do it, I know what will happen. I have grown up around campfires, fireplaces,wood stoves for my wholesale life I heated my house with a wood stove I my dining room for over ten years, I have literally seen thousands of tons of paper burnt in my life and I k ow how it acts around different levels of heat.
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Tell you what.

Refer to photos from explosions and you will see plenty of paper and combustibles is the debris....

Campfires are not explosions. Wood stoves are not explosions. Fireplaces are not explosions.

No wonder you are clueless.

You know non-explosions and think they have the characteristics of explosions...
 
GDViking said:
Yes they do but not only in front and none behind as in your original photo. Those would have either been blown in, I Wich case they would be more random and extend into the background, AND not have several peieces held in place by hand size rocks ( none under large debris).

In the background of the photo there is smoke rising meaning the debris was supposedly still hot, and yet no discoloration or singed edges on any of the paper in the forefront.
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More battle damage assessment....

Smoke in the background suggests a hot spot somewhere in the background..... Whether or not it is near the serf ace is another thing entirely...

But grasp at more straws.
 
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