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Russia Says It Told U.S. Where In Syria It Was Allowed To Bomb

Fledermaus said:
Please point out where the FIRES were.
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Ok I will start with the charged peices of metal and wood on the wall with a piece of what appears to be a piece of chared wood with several peieces of white clean paper without so much as Ash on tbem let alone smoke damage. If they were there when it was hot or even warm smoke damage would still be present.
 
GDViking said:
Ok I will start with the charged peices of metal and wood on the wall with a piece of what appears to be a piece of chared wood with several peieces of white clean paper without so much as Ash on tbem let alone smoke damage. If they were there when it was hot or even warm smoke damage would still be present.
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Your OPINION is noted. Appears to be.

Got it.:lamo
 
GDViking said:
Ok I will start with the charged peices of metal and wood on the wall with a piece of what appears to be a piece of chared wood with several peieces of white clean paper without so much as Ash on tbem let alone smoke damage. If they were there when it was hot or even warm smoke damage would still be present.
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Better yet, explain the pristine white papers in the other explosion sites I have presented.
 
Rogue Valley said:
You really think that strike decapitated Assad's chemical warfare capabilities or hurt his CW program badly?

No Assad CW scientist perished, and the regime had a week to relocate whatever critical CW infrastructure needed relocating.

C'mon. I expect better from you.
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Lets see....

Lab blown up... Do you know if there are any other labs in Syria? Looks like a damn big facility. They have more?

Storage blown up.... Chemical Weapons are not something you just roll out on your cart and dump into any old storage bay...

Yeah, they are impeded but likely not completely stopped.
 
Fledermaus said:
You should actually look at a picture or two at least.

That and the storage facility was UNDERGROUND. Kinda hard to see the details when it is underground...

Hmmmm

Looks like you didn't look at any pictures.
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You know I have been looking.

And I wonder how come there is no glass? "Modern structure" should have glass. I have seen some accidental explosions and what I don't see here is anything for humans. No pieces of chairs, desks or other sign of human activity. That causes me to look deeper and holy ****, how did that greenery get there?
And the way the paper all fell down the same way in the same spot, no signs of being wind blown.

You say this "lab" was underground. If so, this photo is definitely not it. I question whether this was an explosion at all, to me it looks like a cultivated dump. No crater where an underground facility would be...

nah....sorry. But my computer kid could fake a better bomb crater than that.
 
Fearandloathing said:
You know I have been looking.

And I wonder how come there is no glass? "Modern structure" should have glass. I have seen some accidental explosions and what I don't see here is anything for humans. No pieces of chairs, desks or other sign of human activity. That causes me to look deeper and holy ****, how did that greenery get there?
And the way the paper all fell down the same way in the same spot, no signs of being wind blown.

You say this "lab" was underground. If so, this photo is definitely not it. I question whether this was an explosion at all, to me it looks like a cultivated dump. No crater where an underground facility would be...

nah....sorry. But my computer kid could fake a better bomb crater than that.
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Your OPINION is noted....

There are many building without glass. And given it was a lab dealing with dealing with chemical weapons the less glass the better.

But lets look at it.

The are square holes where the glass could go. Are those windows?

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Kind of hard to tell since explosions do bad things to glass.

Lets look elsewhere.



Hmmmm

Looks like some of the compound has windows.

Wait. HAD windows.

Post #34 has two views of the Murrah building in Oklahoma City. Gee the paper just fell down too. And not much in the way of pieces of chairs, desks or other sign of human activity.

Maybe that's what happens when a building is torn apart by an explosion.

And NO, the lab is not underground. The storage facilities are.
 
Fledermaus said:
Your OPINION is noted....

There are many building without glass. And given it was a lab dealing with dealing with chemical weapons the less glass the better.

But lets look at it.

The are square holes where the glass could go. Are those windows?

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Kind of hard to tell since explosions do bad things to glass.

Lets look elsewhere.



Hmmmm

Looks like some of the compound has windows.

Wait. HAD windows.

Post #34 has two views of the Murrah building in Oklahoma City. Gee the paper just fell down too. And not much in the way of pieces of chairs, desks or other sign of human activity.

Maybe that's what happens when a building is torn apart by an explosion.

And NO, the lab is not underground. The storage facilities are.
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And why are there no vehicles in the area, did they get vaporized?

These sites we're bugged out and they had a week to do it.

And again clean white paper does not fall on hot or even. Warm and remain clean white paper.

I gave you my opinion by the evidence provided to this point.

The only thing I know for certain is that first pic you posted as evidence was a staged photo by someone who knew a thing or two about photography.

Did you know the famous pic of the Marines struggling to plant the flag in the south Pacific was staged?
 
GDViking said:
And why are there no vehicles in the area, did they get vaporized?
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Moving goalposts...

Is there a picture of the parking lot?

No

GDViking said:
These sites we're bugged out and they had a week to do it.
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OPINION noted. They still destroyed a lab and storage facilities.

GDViking said:
And again clean white paper does not fall on hot or even. Warm and remain clean white paper.
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OPINION NOTED... And laughed at given the papers that remained unmolested on 911, the Oklahoma City bombing and others.

GDViking said:
I gave you my opinion by the evidence provided to this point.
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And it appears to be a very uneducated opinion colored by your desire to not have to admit you were wrong.

GDViking said:
The only thing I know for certain is that first pic you posted as evidence was a staged photo by someone who knew a thing or two about photography.
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Staged. ANOTHER OPINION.... A very uneducated opinion colored by your desire to not have to admit you were wrong.


GDViking said:
Did you know the famous pic of the Marines struggling to plant the flag in the south Pacific was staged?
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Yes. It was the second raising of the flag that was done not to be "staged" by to raise a much larger flag that could be seen by all....

Did you know there are people so ignorant of explosives that they believe the paper should not survive.
 
Fledermaus said:
Better yet, explain the pristine white papers in the other explosion sites I have presented.
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Nowhere heat an Ash, pretty obvious.

The paper in your photo was near ground zero.
 
Fledermaus said:
We blew up a lab and storage facilities.

While they may rebuild they wont be doing so right away.

CLUE: Many bombing runs in WWII did nothing but temporarily interrupt or decrease production. Guess they were all failures as well.
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Much of the U.S. strategic bombing of Europe in WW2 was against civilian population centers. The amount of devastation was incredible. The U.S. did not warn Germany we were coming. What we learned about our bombing strategy post-WW2 was that much of our bombing was in fact ineffective.

It's a bad comparison to the Syria strike. We warned them we were going to hit them. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what the targets were. They don't even need to rebuild those facilities to get their chemical weapons program going again. Because we didn't shut ti down to begin with. The Pentagon admitted they didn't get all the facilities and that it was likely most of the smaller equipment and supplies were moved prior to the attack. They can easily re-purpose storage facilities and simply increase resources at their remaining labs. Our government knew these strikes were going to be little more than muscle flexing.
 
Fledermaus said:
Moving goalposts...

Is there a picture of the parking lot?

No



OPINION noted. They still destroyed a lab and storage facilities.



OPINION NOTED... And laughed at given the papers that remained unmolested on 911, the Oklahoma City bombing and others.



And it appears to be a very uneducated opinion colored by your desire to not have to admit you were wrong.



Staged. ANOTHER OPINION.... A very uneducated opinion colored by your desire to not have to admit you were wrong.




Yes. It was the second raising of the flag that was done not to be "staged" by to raise a much larger flag that could be seen by all....

Did you know there are people so ignorant of explosives that they believe the paper should not survive.
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Did you know that paper that lands on a heat source and smoking, smoldering ash discolors? Have you ever lived through a house fire? I still have books with discolored pages that were nowhere near the burning section of the house.. in fact my leather bound gold edged addition of the increasingly inaccurately described trilogy of the Hitchhikers Guide is one of them.

You can show all the pics you want, but the first one you showed was obviously staged and you have not shown any others from these three sites to back up your claim.

From everything I have seen so far the evidence proves your OPINION incorrect and that you are just grasping at straws.

Has any American or allied personal been at the sights to evaluate what was there and what had been moved?

This whole thing was a wag the dog hoax, with no actual damage other than structures.
We could have just as easily hit fake targets in the Arizona desert and had the same effect.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
The Syrian cover story is that it was a cancer research facility. https://sana.sy/en/?p=134366

Those papers and what not could have been planted during that time that the site was off limits.
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Really, who took the pic???

It has been my contention since I saw it for the first time that it was staged by someone who knew something about photography..
If those papers were part of the blast there would be discoloration.

However we have been discussing this for awhile now, yet why is there no other sign of anything that should have been in the buildings, or surrounding area?
 
GDViking said:
And why are there no vehicles in the area, did they get vaporized?

These sites we're bugged out and they had a week to do it.

And again clean white paper does not fall on hot or even. Warm and remain clean white paper.

I gave you my opinion by the evidence provided to this point.

The only thing I know for certain is that first pic you posted as evidence was a staged photo by someone who knew a thing or two about photography.

Did you know the famous pic of the Marines struggling to plant the flag in the south Pacific was staged?
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You should probably just stop. Fledermaus is making you look rather silly and proving Just how much your opinion is based on what you see in movies.
 
Fledermaus said:
Your OPINION is noted....

There are many building without glass. And given it was a lab dealing with dealing with chemical weapons the less glass the better.

But lets look at it.

The are square holes where the glass could go. Are those windows?

View attachment 67231973

Kind of hard to tell since explosions do bad things to glass.

Lets look elsewhere.



Hmmmm

Looks like some of the compound has windows.

Wait. HAD windows.

Post #34 has two views of the Murrah building in Oklahoma City. Gee the paper just fell down too. And not much in the way of pieces of chairs, desks or other sign of human activity.

Maybe that's what happens when a building is torn apart by an explosion.

And NO, the lab is not underground. The storage facilities are.
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Not buying.

You said it was underground, where's the crater?

Look, dopn't waste your time. The US is the most dishonest nation on earth led by the most dishonest human being, a guy so fractured he has to pretend to be someone else to sing his own praises. He lies more in an hour than most people in their lifetime.

No amount of propaganda is going to change my opinion, in fact you're working so hard at it I doubt any missiles were launched at all. Considering what competes newswise and how the noose is tightening I have no hesitation in suggesting the whole thing is a sham to take attention off the criminal investigations. He's told bigger whoppers.

So lie away, but man you seem like you're on a mission. That says a lot
 
Fearandloathing said:
Not buying.

You said it was underground, where's the crater?

Look, dopn't waste your time. The US is the most dishonest nation on earth led by the most dishonest human being, a guy so fractured he has to pretend to be someone else to sing his own praises. He lies more in an hour than most people in their lifetime.

No amount of propaganda is going to change my opinion, in fact you're working so hard at it I doubt any missiles were launched at all. Considering what competes newswise and how the noose is tightening I have no hesitation in suggesting the whole thing is a sham to take attention off the criminal investigations. He's told bigger whoppers.

So lie away, but man you seem like you're on a mission. That says a lot
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Thank you for demonstrating why no one should take you seriously.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Not buying.

You said it was underground, where's the crater?

Look, dopn't waste your time. The US is the most dishonest nation on earth led by the most dishonest human being, a guy so fractured he has to pretend to be someone else to sing his own praises. He lies more in an hour than most people in their lifetime.

No amount of propaganda is going to change my opinion, in fact you're working so hard at it I doubt any missiles were launched at all. Considering what competes newswise and how the noose is tightening I have no hesitation in suggesting the whole thing is a sham to take attention off the criminal investigations. He's told bigger whoppers.

So lie away, but man you seem like you're on a mission. That says a lot
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Your OPINION is noted...

CLUE : The photos and video are Syrian. Not American. Both the Syrians and the US confirm the lab facilities and the storage facilities were struck. The Syrians and Russians claim a bunch of missiles were shot down. The Pentagon claimed 100% hits. But no one doubts the facilities were thrashed.

No amount of facts will change your opinion.

Oh, can you point out what lie I am supposed to have written?
 
GDViking said:
Really, who took the pic???

It has been my contention since I saw it for the first time that it was staged by someone who knew something about photography..
If those papers were part of the blast there would be discoloration.

However we have been discussing this for awhile now, yet why is there no other sign of anything that should have been in the buildings, or surrounding area?
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Still touting your version of reality?
 
Lerxst said:
Much of the U.S. strategic bombing of Europe in WW2 was against civilian population centers. The amount of devastation was incredible. The U.S. did not warn Germany we were coming. What we learned about our bombing strategy post-WW2 was that much of our bombing was in fact ineffective.

It's a bad comparison to the Syria strike. We warned them we were going to hit them. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what the targets were. They don't even need to rebuild those facilities to get their chemical weapons program going again. Because we didn't shut ti down to begin with. The Pentagon admitted they didn't get all the facilities and that it was likely most of the smaller equipment and supplies were moved prior to the attack. They can easily re-purpose storage facilities and simply increase resources at their remaining labs. Our government knew these strikes were going to be little more than muscle flexing.
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Were the research, production and storage of chemical weapons impacted?
 
GDViking said:
Did you know that paper that lands on a heat source and smoking, smoldering ash discolors? Have you ever lived through a house fire? I still have books with discolored pages that were nowhere near the burning section of the house.. in fact my leather bound gold edged addition of the increasingly inaccurately described trilogy of the Hitchhikers Guide is one of them.

You can show all the pics you want, but the first one you showed was obviously staged and you have not shown any others from these three sites to back up your claim.

From everything I have seen so far the evidence proves your OPINION incorrect and that you are just grasping at straws.

Has any American or allied personal been at the sights to evaluate what was there and what had been moved?

This whole thing was a wag the dog hoax, with no actual damage other than structures.
We could have just as easily hit fake targets in the Arizona desert and had the same effect.
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Are those goalposts getting heavy?

And your arguement by incredulity is just getting silly at this point.
 
GDViking said:
Really, who took the pic???

It has been my contention since I saw it for the first time that it was staged by someone who knew something about photography..
If those papers were part of the blast there would be discoloration.

However we have been discussing this for awhile now, yet why is there no other sign of anything that should have been in the buildings, or surrounding area?
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I dont know, perhaps you should reread my post? Perhaps even look at the link? The link is to the Syrian state news propaganda site. They want the world to believe that we blew up a cancer research facility. Seems like papers though could be from either. And really papers can survive looking unscathed, dont know why you are stuck on that.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
I dont know, perhaps you should reread my post? Perhaps even look at the link? The link is to the Syrian state news propaganda site. They want the world to believe that we blew up a cancer research facility. Seems like papers though could be from either. And really papers can survive looking unscathed, dont know why you are stuck on that.
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Dunning Kreuger...

He doesn't understand and he lacks the ability to understand that he doesn't understand.
 
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