The reason the right leans toward the military, is money in their pocket,

It surely isn't taking care of the men in uniform and the vets , Just check out their voting record if you don't believe me. Try either "the republicans supporting the vets" or "the democrats supporting the vets"
What you will find in either Google , even with the first google, is that th Right doesn't support the vets but big money to any part of the military industrial complex because they make money for these republicans , big big money. This is Simple Democrats support our vets The right doesn't/ Google anything you want it has one clear message, that conservitives like weapons not veterans,

I think you meant Republican leadership, not “the right”. I disagree with the right’s politics on most things, but for the regular person on the right they genuinely respect the military.

Skeptic Bob said:

I think you meant Republican leadership, not “the right”. I disagree with the right’s politics on most things, but for the regular person on the right they genuinely respect the military.

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You know what they say "an organism at war with itself is doomed".

Actually, you said that, Carl.:mrgreen:

Skeptic Bob said:

I think you meant Republican leadership, not “the right”. I disagree with the right’s politics on most things, but for the regular person on the right they genuinely respect the military.

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I was writing about their politicians , Maybe you missed me asking for their voting record on vets and military industrial complex but either way it doesn't matter because the voting right is electing politicians that don't support the vets, That would be my point. They have a horrible record in support of legislation for our veterans. In fact I would say that the right only votes on veterans support that costs nothing or that they think they can get by not voting for.
Your talking about the military , which they love dearly across the board voters and politicians , because that greases their wheels. It's my opinion that the vets come first. Not behind 18 billion dollar aircraft-carriers. Funny, with these aircraft carriers the navy has the second largest air force in the world, only second to our own air force.

jbander said:

It surely isn't taking care of the men in uniform and the vets , Just check out their voting record if you don't believe me. Try either "the republicans supporting the vets" or "the democrats supporting the vets"
What you will find in either Google , even with the first google, is that th Right doesn't support the vets but big money to any part of the military industrial complex because they make money for these republicans , big big money. This is Simple Democrats support our vets The right doesn't/ Google anything you want it has one clear message, that conservitives like weapons not veterans,

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So....republicans support the military industrial complex, home of the greatest Union power in america?


Why do you hate unions?

jbander said:

It surely isn't taking care of the men in uniform and the vets , Just check out their voting record if you don't believe me. Try either "the republicans supporting the vets" or "the democrats supporting the vets"
What you will find in either Google , even with the first google, is that th Right doesn't support the vets but big money to any part of the military industrial complex because they make money for these republicans , big big money. This is Simple Democrats support our vets The right doesn't/ Google anything you want it has one clear message, that conservitives like weapons not veterans,

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Could you please explain how supporting the military complex translates to "money in their pocket" as you say in the title of this thread?

jbander said:

It surely isn't taking care of the men in uniform and the vets , Just check out their voting record if you don't believe me. Try either "the republicans supporting the vets" or "the democrats supporting the vets"
What you will find in either Google , even with the first google, is that th Right doesn't support the vets but big money to any part of the military industrial complex because they make money for these republicans , big big money. This is Simple Democrats support our vets The right doesn't/ Google anything you want it has one clear message, that conservitives like weapons not veterans,

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Sending our troops off to war under fraud is a strong bipartisan effort, as is the "legislation" known as AUMF. Neither party gives a damn about providing excuses for men to become cannon fodder. Supporting our troops means NOT creating wars of convenience brought under fraud.

Both parties are heavily invested in the military industrial complex, and many individuals from both parties profit thereby. Wake up and smell the napalm.

HowardBThiname said:

Could you please explain how supporting the military complex translates to "money in their pocket" as you say in the title of this thread?

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Are you that nieve, they have the inside tract on whether they lie a war into existence or not, like the total complete lie by Bush the baby killer and Cheney, To find out the two companies that made by far the most money out of the war which was a lie, to be Haliburton and Carlyle. They push a war and then fill their portfolios with war related companies, The usual way is what I'm saying but they have a headstart on the knowledge of the potential war and that puts them into stocks with basically insiders information. In fact this exact thing has been studied "Dylan Minor finds a connection between risk-taking in personal investments and later scandals." https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/a-politician-s-investment-portfolio-might-tip-off-corruption-potential

Thoreau72 said:

Sending our troops off to war under fraud is a strong bipartisan effort, as is the "legislation" known as AUMF. Neither party gives a damn about providing excuses for men to become cannon fodder. Supporting our troops means NOT creating wars of convenience brought under fraud.

Both parties are heavily invested in the military industrial complex, and many individuals from both parties profit thereby. Wake up and smell the napalm.

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My comment is about supporting the vets, the supporting of the war is simply a reference.

Keep this in mind , the Dems made their biggest mistake ever, they believed Bush and Cheney, they were told where the information came from but the democrats had no access to the sources, they had to believe or not believe the president. Even I believed him, he knew straight out it was a lie. George Tenet the head of the CIA was told to ask Powers to make the speech to the public because he was so well trusted by the public and powers believed Tenet, to this day Power hates Tenet. Tenet knew it was a lie also, He told Bush one time that it wasn't true and then kept quite and joined the murder of 5000 American heroes. The democrats wouldn't have supported that if they knew the truth but I say the Right would have supported their president even if they knew it was a lie. You want to see how stupid this group thought we were , simply look up code name "curve ball"

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Are you that nieve, they have the inside tract on whether they lie a war into existence or not, like the total complete lie by Bush the baby killer and Cheney, To find out the two companies that made by far the most money out of the war which was a lie, to be Haliburton and Carlyle. They push a war and then fill their portfolios with war related companies, The usual way is what I'm saying but they have a headstart on the knowledge of the potential war and that puts them into stocks with basically insiders information. In fact this exact thing has been studied "Dylan Minor finds a connection between risk-taking in personal investments and later scandals." https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/a-politician-s-investment-portfolio-might-tip-off-corruption-potential

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So, okay, Haliburton made money in the Iraq War. Cheney was no longer with Haliburton, although, so Cheney didn't profit.

Your link was interesting -- but, it didn't substantiate your title that the GOP is making money from war. Back when Obama was President, many democrats backed his warmongering both in Libya and in Syria while the GOP kept calling him out for violating the War Powers Resolution because he refused to get their permission. That tells me that the GOP (at least at that time) didn't have financial conflicts of interest that would include making money on war -- because they opposed Obama's military actions.

Some politicians might well benefit from war -- I'll give you that -- but they're just as likely to be dems as they are repubs.

HowardBThiname said:

So, okay, Haliburton made money in the Iraq War. Cheney was no longer with Haliburton, although, so Cheney didn't profit.

Your link was interesting -- but, it didn't substantiate your title that the GOP is making money from war. Back when Obama was President, many democrats backed his warmongering both in Libya and in Syria while the GOP kept calling him out for violating the War Powers Resolution because he refused to get their permission. That tells me that the GOP (at least at that time) didn't have financial conflicts of interest that would include making money on war -- because they opposed Obama's military actions.

Some politicians might well benefit from war -- I'll give you that -- but they're just as likely to be dems as they are repubs.

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Didn't profit ya in the fantasy world of the right, he profited big time , Do a little research. They supported none of Obama's actions, as far as the right was concerned he was hampered by being black with the all white bleach white party, Being against any democrats putting them in power is where the moneys at. Haven't you noticed, For instance the hand out to the rich in the last budget package,

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Didn't profit ya in the fantasy world of the right, he profited big time , Do a little research. They supported none of Obama's actions, as far as the right was concerned he was hampered by being black with the all white bleach white party, Being against any democrats putting them in power is where the moneys at. Haven't you noticed, For instance the hand out to the rich in the last budget package,

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You aren't making sense.