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U.S. Airstrikes Kill 100 "Russian" and Syrian Fighters, Reports Say

Rogue Valley said:
Although Wagner is a PMC, it is always directed by Russian commanders. I can't imagine Moscow ordering such an attack being well aware that US/Kurdish forces controlled this battle space. Did a Russian commander overplay his orders?
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After thinking on this a bit, I've revised my position.

Now I do think Putin and the Kremlin ordered this attack on US/coalition forces near Deir Ezzor. Why? The answer goes back to early-January 2018 when Turkey's dictator Erdogan began positioning Turkish armor to invade Afrin, Syria ... one of the three cantons (regions) in northern Syria that make up the Syrian Turkish homeland of Rojava. Erdogan was well aware that the Rojava Kurdish militia's (YPG/YPJ) had been fighting alongside US forces against ISIS since late 2014 and had decimated ISIS in central Syria east of the Euphrates river and captured the ISIS capital city of Raqqa. YPG/YPJ forces were at that time clearing the strategic city of Deir Ezzor of ISIS. Deir Ezzor is the largest significant city until one reaches Iraq. Erdogan attacked Afrin with tanks, artillery, and F-16's on 20 January despite knowing that the Syrian Rojava Kurds were close allies of the US. Erdogan's excuse was that the YPG/YPJ was aligned with Turkey's Kurdish PKK which both Turkey and the US consider a terrorist group. The US does not share this viewpoint.

Turkish military operation in Syria's Afrin has begun: Erdogan

To date, Turkey claims it has 'neutralized' (killed) up to 800 YPG/YPJ militia (and at least 100 civilians). A US force in Manbij, Afrin region is blocking further Turkish advances and the US commander says his force isn't moving. Trump said nothing. Erdogan threatened to strike at the US force in Afrin....

Turkey’s Erdogan Says He’s Ready to Risk Confrontation With US

Putin no doubt viewed this as US weakness and a lack of Trump/US strategic plans for Syria. He decided to test this US weakness by striking at Deir Ezzor with Syrian, Hezbollah, and Russian kontractniki forces. Probably, US SecDef James Mattis gave the order for US/Kurdish forces in Deir Ezzor to respond with extreme prejudice. The Russian/Syrian/Hezbollah attacking force was decimated (~500 KIA).

Yesterday, Tillerson met with Erdogan in Ankara. In a press conference, they agreed to work together on a number of contentious issues. Foreign Minister Mehmet Cavusoglu said Turkey expects US forces to withdraw from Manbij, Afrin. Tillerson was non-committal on that point. As is well known by now, Rex Tillerson may have been an excellent CEO at Exxon-Mobil, but he is a lousy Secretary of State. I hope he hasn't stabbed our Syrian Kurdish allies in the back to placate Erdogan and allow Turkish forces to ethnically cleanse Rojava.

Turkey and the U.S. agree to move forward, not dwell on past differences
 
Rogue Valley said:
After thinking on this a bit, I've revised my position.

Now I do think Putin and the Kremlin ordered this attack on US/coalition forces near Deir Ezzor. Why? The answer goes back to early-January 2018 when Turkey's dictator Erdogan began positioning Turkish armor to invade Afrin, Syria ... one of the three cantons (regions) in northern Syria that make up the Syrian Turkish homeland of Rojava. Erdogan was well aware that the Rojava Kurdish militia's (YPG/YPJ) had been fighting alongside US forces against ISIS since late 2014 and had decimated ISIS in central Syria east of the Euphrates river and captured the ISIS capital city of Raqqa. YPG/YPJ forces were at that time clearing the strategic city of Deir Ezzor of ISIS. Deir Ezzor is the largest significant city until one reaches Iraq. Erdogan attacked Afrin with tanks, artillery, and F-16's on 20 January despite knowing that the Syrian Rojava Kurds were close allies of the US. Erdogan's excuse was that the YPG/YPJ was aligned with Turkey's Kurdish PKK which both Turkey and the US consider a terrorist group. The US does not share this viewpoint.

Turkish military operation in Syria's Afrin has begun: Erdogan

To date, Turkey claims it has 'neutralized' (killed) up to 800 YPG/YPJ militia (and at least 100 civilians). A US force in Manbij, Afrin region is blocking further Turkish advances and the US commander says his force isn't moving. Trump said nothing. Erdogan threatened to strike at the US force in Afrin....

Turkey’s Erdogan Says He’s Ready to Risk Confrontation With US

Putin no doubt viewed this as US weakness and a lack of Trump/US strategic plans for Syria. He decided to test this US weakness by striking at Deir Ezzor with Syrian, Hezbollah, and Russian kontractniki forces. Probably, US SecDef James Mattis gave the order for US/Kurdish forces in Deir Ezzor to respond with extreme prejudice. The Russian/Syrian/Hezbollah attacking force was decimated (~500 KIA).

Yesterday, Tillerson met with Erdogan in Ankara. In a press conference, they agreed to work together on a number of contentious issues. Foreign Minister Mehmet Cavusoglu said Turkey expects US forces to withdraw from Manbij, Afrin. Tillerson was non-committal on that point. As is well known by now, Rex Tillerson may have been an excellent CEO at Exxon-Mobil, but he is a lousy Secretary of State. I hope he hasn't stabbed our Syrian Kurdish allies in the back to placate Erdogan and allow Turkish forces to ethnically cleanse Rojava.

Turkey and the U.S. agree to move forward, not dwell on past differences
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whats about cash? which assadists are so badly want

""The company" Euro Policy ", associated with businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin (the cook of Putin's wife), in an agreement with the Syrian government, releases oil objects in Syria and receives income from the sale of oil." In December 2016, "Europolis" signed a memorandum with Syria. years, it must recapture the oil facilities from terrorists and protect them, for which it will receive 25 percent of the oil and gas produced.

"Euro policy" was the employer of mercenaries who died in Syria.

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" Компания «Евро Полис», связанная с бизнесменом Евгением Пригожиным (поваром путина), по договору с сирийским правительством освобождает в Сирии нефтяные объекты и получает доход от продажи нефти. В декабре 2016 года «Евро Полис» подписала меморандум с Сирией. В течение пяти лет она должна отвоёвывать нефтяные объекты у террористов и охранять их. За это она будет получать 25 процентов добытых нефти и газа.

«Евро полис» был работодателем погибших в Сирии наёмников.'"
 
holbritter said:
Why does the headline say it killed Russians, but in the story it said no Russians were killed?
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Like in Ukraine, they weren’t wearing Russian uniforms. There is some speculation some payback may be in the works by attacking a base where these “irregulars” originated, forcing the Rusdians to raise their flag.
 
Rogue Valley said:
The Rosiysʹki will receive no sympathy from me.

Partial payback for Ilovaiskaya.
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journalists got list with 75 names, its a pure madness that Kremlin thugs can still hide it
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https://nn.by/?c=ar&i=204912
 
Rogue Valley said:
After thinking on this a bit, I've revised my position.

Now I do think Putin and the Kremlin ordered this attack on US/coalition forces near Deir Ezzor. Why? The answer goes back to early-January 2018 when Turkey's dictator Erdogan began positioning Turkish armor to invade Afrin, Syria ... one of the three cantons (regions) in northern Syria that make up the Syrian Turkish homeland of Rojava. Erdogan was well aware that the Rojava Kurdish militia's (YPG/YPJ) had been fighting alongside US forces against ISIS since late 2014 and had decimated ISIS in central Syria east of the Euphrates river and captured the ISIS capital city of Raqqa. YPG/YPJ forces were at that time clearing the strategic city of Deir Ezzor of ISIS. Deir Ezzor is the largest significant city until one reaches Iraq. Erdogan attacked Afrin with tanks, artillery, and F-16's on 20 January despite knowing that the Syrian Rojava Kurds were close allies of the US. Erdogan's excuse was that the YPG/YPJ was aligned with Turkey's Kurdish PKK which both Turkey and the US consider a terrorist group. The US does not share this viewpoint.

Turkish military operation in Syria's Afrin has begun: Erdogan

To date, Turkey claims it has 'neutralized' (killed) up to 800 YPG/YPJ militia (and at least 100 civilians). A US force in Manbij, Afrin region is blocking further Turkish advances and the US commander says his force isn't moving. Trump said nothing. Erdogan threatened to strike at the US force in Afrin....

Turkey’s Erdogan Says He’s Ready to Risk Confrontation With US

Putin no doubt viewed this as US weakness and a lack of Trump/US strategic plans for Syria. He decided to test this US weakness by striking at Deir Ezzor with Syrian, Hezbollah, and Russian kontractniki forces. Probably, US SecDef James Mattis gave the order for US/Kurdish forces in Deir Ezzor to respond with extreme prejudice. The Russian/Syrian/Hezbollah attacking force was decimated (~500 KIA).

Yesterday, Tillerson met with Erdogan in Ankara. In a press conference, they agreed to work together on a number of contentious issues. Foreign Minister Mehmet Cavusoglu said Turkey expects US forces to withdraw from Manbij, Afrin. Tillerson was non-committal on that point. As is well known by now, Rex Tillerson may have been an excellent CEO at Exxon-Mobil, but he is a lousy Secretary of State. I hope he hasn't stabbed our Syrian Kurdish allies in the back to placate Erdogan and allow Turkish forces to ethnically cleanse Rojava.

Turkey and the U.S. agree to move forward, not dwell on past differences
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names , names

http://www.fontanka.ru/2017/08/19/050/

vova still tries to hide the truth
 
DaveFagan said:
For the record. It appears USA aircraft operating illegally in Syrian sovereign Airspace. UN will have to take some action, don't you think?/
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Do something like what they did when Assad was dropping barrel bombs on civilians?
 
Casper said:
Do something like what they did when Assad was dropping barrel bombs on civilians?
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The USA used expensive bombs on Raqqa, Syria, same results. Why not mention that. Also Ramadi, Fallujah, Mosul, and civilians in the same context.
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DaveFagan said:
The USA used expensive bombs on Raqqa, Syria, same results. Why not mention that. Also Ramadi, Fallujah, Mosul, and civilians in the same context.
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And the UN did what? The UN is useless and has been or many years now.
 
Rogue Valley said:
The wounded have been air-evacuated to five military hospitals in the Russian Federation. Closed to the media.
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This is what one of the former mercenaries who formerly fought in the Donbas, and now helps in the search for the dead and wounded in recent events in Syria Mikhail Polinkov said:

“I lost contact with those who are in hospitals. Probably, they were deprived of smartphones. I think everything that concerns this tragedy near Khisham before the elections will be very tight.

I apologize once again to all the relatives and friends who turned to me for help, to find friends with whom the relationship has ceased after February 6.”
 
Vlad Dreamer said:
This is what one of the former mercenaries who formerly fought in the Donbas, and now helps in the search for the dead and wounded in recent events in Syria Mikhail Polinkov said:

“I lost contact with those who are in hospitals. Probably, they were deprived of smartphones. I think everything that concerns this tragedy near Khisham before the elections will be very tight.

I apologize once again to all the relatives and friends who turned to me for help, to find friends with whom the relationship has ceased after February 6.”
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[h=3]'They beat our a----s': Russian mercenaries talk about humiliating defeat by US in allegedly leaked audio[/h]Leaked audio recordings allegedly from Russian mercenaries in Syria captured deep lament and humiliation over a battle in early February where US forces


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I usually take with great credibility military sources that make the claim that something was "practically totally demolished" or 'smithereens'.

Good stuff.
 
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The failed Russian Wagner kontractniki (contract soldier) attack on US/Kurdish forces near Deir Ezzor, Syria was planned by this Wagner officer.

Russian citizen Sergey Kim - born 1978 - St. Petersburg - head of the Wagner Operational Department - eastern Ukraine/Syria - former Russian Marine officer - military ID number M-0971.

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