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    Re: U.S. Airstrikes Kill 100 "Russian" and Syrian Fighters, Reports Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    The Euphrates Massacre: 200 Russians Left Dead in Proxy Battle with US

    Whoever gave the order for Russian/Assad forces to cross the deconfliction line (Euphrates River) near Deir ez-Zor and threaten US/Kurdish forces is one dumb MoFo.



    Title translation: Video. The defeat of a column of PMC Wagner in Syria

    That almost sounds like a US A-10 Warthog or AC-130 Spectre giving some.
    what do you think what Girkin´s pal wrote about this event on his page in LJ?

    "The comrade-in-arms of the former "Defense Minister of the DNR" Igor Strelkov (Girkin) Mikhail Polynkov told new details about the defeat of Russian mercenaries in Syria.

    This he wrote on his page in LJ.

    "Three assault squads took part in the operation. "Spring" - the former "Carpathians", which consisted of residents of Donbass and Russians who took part in the fighting in the Donbass. 2nd unit and 5th. Not authorized companies of 121 people, but of assault detachments. The staff of each of them is 350 people.

    Each of their detachments had its own technique, such as zurich on urals and brdm. Also in the operation was a bronze group with T-72 tanks and artillery from M-30. They promised to cover the air defense, but it was not there. There were practically no people in the column. Object directly stormed the "Spring". The 2nd and 5th detachments stood in the column on the way, waiting for the team. Almost immediately after the beginning of the assault, artillery bombardment began. Communication for a long time was not.

    The source says that the mortars of the 120th but may be wrong. Then there was a missile-bomb strike. The accuracy of the hit is prohibitive. In front of the source, the missile hit the BRDM. About four o'clock in the morning the remnants of the column ironed the turntables. At the output, the remnants of the units were again stabbed with a missile and bomb attack. Back to the crossing from the entire armored group got only one tank. Artdivision all remained there. At one calculation there was a hit directly in.

    The source says that more than two hundred people died from his detachment. And this is in view of the fact that his squad did not take part in the assault. On this basis, I easily believe in the figure of 600 dead. There were many sides with the wounded. They carried not only Moscow and the Moscow Region, but also Peter and Rostov. We must pay tribute. Evacuation was operational (in which were in that and brought) and treatment at a high level.

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    I'll add my opinion. Kurds do not like to publish reports about their destroyed opponents. The Americans knew exactly who they were working on and, of course, they had a shot. I think that the publication of the complete rout of the summary detachments of Russian contract soldiers and the number of victims is not in their favor either. This could rally around Putin all the patriots, even those who are in opposition to him. And the US does not want to be in the image of a bloodthirsty enemy of Russia, as it was in the USSR. But our authorities also do not really want the truth about what happened to leak out.

    The abundance of clumsy fakes, which easily expose the regular pope ****** s - an excellent and already proven method for sapping the truth and discrediting any information about the event. The main task of the ********, as I think, is not even to hide the number of deaths, but a more global goal is to introduce to the average person in the brain the idea that "Wagner's PMC" did not exist at all and if there were Russians there, only in the composition of VSK and MTR. Which, by the way, certainly knew that the object will be defended not only by the Kurds, but also by the Americans.

    Personally, I have a feeling that the guys stupidly drove to the slaughter. The only question is who needs it. Probably, at the moment at the very top, in the Kremlin towers, there is a real Maydan, which naive people wait in the streets of capitals, "- summarizes Polynkov."
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    Re: U.S. Airstrikes Kill 100 "Russian" and Syrian Fighters, Reports Say

    The Rosiysʹki will receive no sympathy from me.

    Partial payback for Ilovaiskaya.


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    Re: U.S. Airstrikes Kill 100 "Russian" and Syrian Fighters, Reports Say

    It seems that a force of Russian Wagner Group kontraktniki (contract mercenaries) and pro-Iranian militia attempted to take over what used to be a Conoco gas field about 8 miles east of the Euphrates River. In Syria, the Euphrates River is the 'deconfliction line' with US and Kurdish forces operating east of this line while Russian/Assad/Hezbollah forces remain west of this line. Clearly, the Russians and their allies were in violation of the deconfliction agreement. US/Kurdish forces engaged the attackers with F-16/22 jets, AC-130 gunships, MQ-9 Reaper drones, Apache helicopters, artillery and mortars. Coalition forces first destroyed a column of Syrian tanks in the village of Tabiya, then a Wagner APC/truck convoy that was approaching Deir Ezzor city, and then destroyed Hezbollah forces near the town of Khasham. Syrian/Iranian forces initially forced the action, firing artillery and tank rounds toward US/Kurdish positions. Although US forces won't specify, locals say ~500 KIA (200 Wagner - 300 Syrian/Hezbollah).

    Wagner has been tasked by the Kremlin to take Syrian oil fields held by ISIS. It seems that Wagner led the attack on the Conoco gas field and coalition positions. Although Wagner is a PMC, it is always directed by Russian commanders. I can't imagine Moscow ordering such an attack being well aware that US/Kurdish forces controlled this battle space. Did a Russian commander overplay his orders? We'll probably never know because Moscow denies using PMC's [known in Russia as Chastnye Voenniye Companiye (ChVK)] in Syria. That's why there is not a word from the Kremlin about the battle or the inordinate number of Russian dead. PMCs are officially illegal in Russia, but the Kremlin uses them in Syria, eastern Ukraine, Transnistria, and Ossetia. They were used extensively during the two Chechen Wars. They are always Russian Army/Spetznaz combat veterans, usually alcoholics, and vicious. In Chechnya, they shot entire villages and then burned everything to the ground.


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    Re: U.S. Airstrikes Kill 100 "Russian" and Syrian Fighters, Reports Say

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    For the record. It appears USA aircraft operating illegally in Syrian sovereign Airspace. UN will have to take some action, don't you think?/
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    Re: U.S. Airstrikes Kill 100 "Russian" and Syrian Fighters, Reports Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    The Rosiysʹki will receive no sympathy from me.

    Partial payback for Ilovaiskaya.
    UPDATE

    "Russian toll in Syria battle was 300 killed and wounded: sources


    MOSCOW (Reuters) - About 300 men working for a Kremlin-linked Russian private military firm were either killed or injured in Syria last week, according to three sources familiar with the matter. "
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKCN1FZ2DZ
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    Re: U.S. Airstrikes Kill 100 "Russian" and Syrian Fighters, Reports Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Although Wagner is a PMC, it is always directed by Russian commanders. I can't imagine Moscow ordering such an attack being well aware that US/Kurdish forces controlled this battle space. Did a Russian commander overplay his orders?
    After thinking on this a bit, I've revised my position.

    Now I do think Putin and the Kremlin ordered this attack on US/coalition forces near Deir Ezzor. Why? The answer goes back to early-January 2018 when Turkey's dictator Erdogan began positioning Turkish armor to invade Afrin, Syria ... one of the three cantons (regions) in northern Syria that make up the Syrian Turkish homeland of Rojava. Erdogan was well aware that the Rojava Kurdish militia's (YPG/YPJ) had been fighting alongside US forces against ISIS since late 2014 and had decimated ISIS in central Syria east of the Euphrates river and captured the ISIS capital city of Raqqa. YPG/YPJ forces were at that time clearing the strategic city of Deir Ezzor of ISIS. Deir Ezzor is the largest significant city until one reaches Iraq. Erdogan attacked Afrin with tanks, artillery, and F-16's on 20 January despite knowing that the Syrian Rojava Kurds were close allies of the US. Erdogan's excuse was that the YPG/YPJ was aligned with Turkey's Kurdish PKK which both Turkey and the US consider a terrorist group. The US does not share this viewpoint.

    Turkish military operation in Syria's Afrin has begun: Erdogan

    To date, Turkey claims it has 'neutralized' (killed) up to 800 YPG/YPJ militia (and at least 100 civilians). A US force in Manbij, Afrin region is blocking further Turkish advances and the US commander says his force isn't moving. Trump said nothing. Erdogan threatened to strike at the US force in Afrin....

    Turkey’s Erdogan Says He’s Ready to Risk Confrontation With US

    Putin no doubt viewed this as US weakness and a lack of Trump/US strategic plans for Syria. He decided to test this US weakness by striking at Deir Ezzor with Syrian, Hezbollah, and Russian kontractniki forces. Probably, US SecDef James Mattis gave the order for US/Kurdish forces in Deir Ezzor to respond with extreme prejudice. The Russian/Syrian/Hezbollah attacking force was decimated (~500 KIA).

    Yesterday, Tillerson met with Erdogan in Ankara. In a press conference, they agreed to work together on a number of contentious issues. Foreign Minister Mehmet Cavusoglu said Turkey expects US forces to withdraw from Manbij, Afrin. Tillerson was non-committal on that point. As is well known by now, Rex Tillerson may have been an excellent CEO at Exxon-Mobil, but he is a lousy Secretary of State. I hope he hasn't stabbed our Syrian Kurdish allies in the back to placate Erdogan and allow Turkish forces to ethnically cleanse Rojava.

    Turkey and the U.S. agree to move forward, not dwell on past differences


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    Re: U.S. Airstrikes Kill 100 "Russian" and Syrian Fighters, Reports Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    After thinking on this a bit, I've revised my position.

    Now I do think Putin and the Kremlin ordered this attack on US/coalition forces near Deir Ezzor. Why? The answer goes back to early-January 2018 when Turkey's dictator Erdogan began positioning Turkish armor to invade Afrin, Syria ... one of the three cantons (regions) in northern Syria that make up the Syrian Turkish homeland of Rojava. Erdogan was well aware that the Rojava Kurdish militia's (YPG/YPJ) had been fighting alongside US forces against ISIS since late 2014 and had decimated ISIS in central Syria east of the Euphrates river and captured the ISIS capital city of Raqqa. YPG/YPJ forces were at that time clearing the strategic city of Deir Ezzor of ISIS. Deir Ezzor is the largest significant city until one reaches Iraq. Erdogan attacked Afrin with tanks, artillery, and F-16's on 20 January despite knowing that the Syrian Rojava Kurds were close allies of the US. Erdogan's excuse was that the YPG/YPJ was aligned with Turkey's Kurdish PKK which both Turkey and the US consider a terrorist group. The US does not share this viewpoint.

    Turkish military operation in Syria's Afrin has begun: Erdogan

    To date, Turkey claims it has 'neutralized' (killed) up to 800 YPG/YPJ militia (and at least 100 civilians). A US force in Manbij, Afrin region is blocking further Turkish advances and the US commander says his force isn't moving. Trump said nothing. Erdogan threatened to strike at the US force in Afrin....

    Turkey’s Erdogan Says He’s Ready to Risk Confrontation With US

    Putin no doubt viewed this as US weakness and a lack of Trump/US strategic plans for Syria. He decided to test this US weakness by striking at Deir Ezzor with Syrian, Hezbollah, and Russian kontractniki forces. Probably, US SecDef James Mattis gave the order for US/Kurdish forces in Deir Ezzor to respond with extreme prejudice. The Russian/Syrian/Hezbollah attacking force was decimated (~500 KIA).

    Yesterday, Tillerson met with Erdogan in Ankara. In a press conference, they agreed to work together on a number of contentious issues. Foreign Minister Mehmet Cavusoglu said Turkey expects US forces to withdraw from Manbij, Afrin. Tillerson was non-committal on that point. As is well known by now, Rex Tillerson may have been an excellent CEO at Exxon-Mobil, but he is a lousy Secretary of State. I hope he hasn't stabbed our Syrian Kurdish allies in the back to placate Erdogan and allow Turkish forces to ethnically cleanse Rojava.

    Turkey and the U.S. agree to move forward, not dwell on past differences
    whats about cash? which assadists are so badly want

    ""The company" Euro Policy ", associated with businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin (the cook of Putin's wife), in an agreement with the Syrian government, releases oil objects in Syria and receives income from the sale of oil." In December 2016, "Europolis" signed a memorandum with Syria. years, it must recapture the oil facilities from terrorists and protect them, for which it will receive 25 percent of the oil and gas produced.

    "Euro policy" was the employer of mercenaries who died in Syria.

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    " Компания «Евро Полис», связанная с бизнесменом Евгением Пригожиным (поваром путина), по договору с сирийским правительством освобождает в Сирии нефтяные объекты и получает доход от продажи нефти. В декабре 2016 года «Евро Полис» подписала меморандум с Сирией. В течение пяти лет она должна отвоёвывать нефтяные объекты у террористов и охранять их. За это она будет получать 25 процентов добытых нефти и газа.

    «Евро полис» был работодателем погибших в Сирии наёмников.'"
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    Re: U.S. Airstrikes Kill 100 "Russian" and Syrian Fighters, Reports Say

    Quote Originally Posted by holbritter View Post
    Why does the headline say it killed Russians, but in the story it said no Russians were killed?
    Like in Ukraine, they weren’t wearing Russian uniforms. There is some speculation some payback may be in the works by attacking a base where these “irregulars” originated, forcing the Rusdians to raise their flag.
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    Re: U.S. Airstrikes Kill 100 "Russian" and Syrian Fighters, Reports Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    The Rosiysʹki will receive no sympathy from me.

    Partial payback for Ilovaiskaya.
    journalists got list with 75 names, its a pure madness that Kremlin thugs can still hide it

    https://nn.by/?c=ar&i=204912
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