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China reveals railgun equipped ship

jbi said:
Breaking news doing the rounds

Is This Chinese Navy Ship Equipped With An Experimental Electromagnetic Railgun? - The Drive
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Its not real, because even to have enough punch to dent plastic. You would need a power plant with serious output capacity. Along with an actual rail gun, launch frame. The closest this thing looks to being a gun, is a 10in cannon on just a standard battleship.

They could have at least fitted it to a ship that doesn't look like it will tear in half, when hit by a stiff wind.
 
Judging by the quality of the crap we see in the US that was made in China, I don't consider them a threat. If their rail gun works as good as the tools they sell us, it will break on its first use.
 
So putting aside jingoism and ignorance, do people feel this is indicative of Chinese military development?

Are the Chinese more willing to invest in riskier projects than the west?

How are they able to leapfrog western developments? (espionage will only take you so far)

What are the prospects for the balance of power in the region going forward to 2020?
 
Cisero said:
Yeah, but just say the name "Railgun". Doesn't that just sound bad-ass ?
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But it's a direct fire weapon that has almost no over the horizon capability. I see it as great for Air Defense, or lost quarters anti-ship operations. But it's capabilities beyond that are limited at best.

I care more about capabilities than I do bragging about something just because it is the "newest technology". And our own navy has been doing far to much about that the last 20 years (railguns of their own, magnetic launch carriers, LCS, etc).

But if China wants to do the same thing, good luck to them. I say let them sink money into equipment that will ultimately be worthless as well.
 
jbi said:
So putting aside jingoism and ignorance, do people feel this is indicative of Chinese military development?

Are the Chinese more willing to invest in riskier projects than the west?

How are they able to leapfrog western developments? (espionage will only take you so far)

What are the prospects for the balance of power in the region going forward to 2020?
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Seriously. Who cares?

It's new technology, but it's still little more than a "cool" conventional weapon. So what.

Are you scared of the Chinese?
Worried they'll invade?

You think a railgun will be the thing that brings America to her knees?
 
Oozlefinch said:
But it's a direct fire weapon that has almost no over the horizon capability. I see it as great for Air Defense, or lost quarters anti-ship operations. But it's capabilities beyond that are limited at best.

I care more about capabilities than I do bragging about something just because it is the "newest technology". And our own navy has been doing far to much about that the last 20 years (railguns of their own, magnetic launch carriers, LCS, etc).

But if China wants to do the same thing, good luck to them. I say let them sink money into equipment that will ultimately be worthless as well.
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Indeed the main military strategy of the CCP Boyz in Beijing is to create an anti-weapon platform for each major weapon U.S. has. Hence the "carrier killer" missile which so many believers have hailed as the end of the aircraft carrier and its strike force. Yet the CCP boyz continue to build carriers knowing full well U.S. has the same weapon and defense against it. All of Beijing's new military technology is untried and untested in actual conditions. So are the commanders and personnel.

CCP Boyz have transferred their mass human wave assault strategy to missiles. CCP Boyz have a swarm of missiles to protect their coasts and areas and the Boyz keep churning 'em out year after year. What was for instance 800 missiles poised across the Taiwan Strait are now 1500 -- and counting. The Boyz Anti-Access / Area Denial defensive strategy (A2/AD) is predicated on a mass of missiles to keep U.S. ships and planes away from the China territory. Not only missiles, but more missiles in waves than the finite number the U.S. has to defend itself out at sea. U.S. would run out sooner or later. CCP Boyz fail to appreciate however that the US AirSea Battle Doctrine (2010) is aggressive, i.e., designed to penetrate all platforms of defense to strike command and control centers deep into the PRC lands. (ASB formal name changed due to objections by Army and Marines, however, ASB remains what it is.) In respect of Taiwan, Pentagon figures it can regain the island with 7 dayze to reestablish air superiority and 7 dayze to regain control of the seas. Knocking out PRC A2/AD defenses would occur ahead of that max of 7 days of course. With Thaad and its radars in SK Pacific Command knows the temperature of Xi Jinpingpong's morning tea.

Have no doubt however the first three and four dayze of an all out war would be both fierce and intense. Sort of like a Chinese high speed train wreck. No matter to the inevitable outcome. Chinese fighters without their officers become mop up ops -- tell 'em to drop their rifle or laptop and go home which they do. CCP Central Military Commission introduced NCO to the Party's armed forces starting with trials in 1997. They went back to the drawing board in 2007. Last year again back to the board. China's never had NCO so the whole thingy is new to the culture. NCO are assigned to one single unit forever, for instance. CCP Boyz also worry about the personnel cost of career NCO to include retirement packages. So it's not going well. The only reason CCP introduced NCO is that the CMC concluded it could not win a war against USA without having NCO. As with everything else in China for 5000 years they can't get this right either.
 
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