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A-10's to Afghan

Rogue Valley

Rogue Valley

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A dozen A-10s arrived at Kandahar Airbase on 19 January. All A-10s were pulled out of A-stan about three years ago. These Thunderbolts are from the 303d Expeditionary Fighter Squadron from Whiteman Air Force Base, Missouri.

A squad of MQ-9 Reaper drones, some HH-60G helicopters, and an additional 1,000 combat troops (~15,000 now total) have arrived at Bagram north of Kabul.

The A-10s at Incirlik Airbase (pounded ISIS) have been rotated home and their replacements were reassigned to Kandahar.

Much like the constant air attacks on Syria/Iraq oil fields that financed ISIS, the Pentagon aims to destroy the heroin-labs/convoys that fund the Taliban/ISIS in Afghanistan.
 
Rogue Valley said:
the Pentagon aims to destroy the heroin-labs/convoys that fund the Taliban/ISIS in Afghanistan.
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That's patently false. We're still in Afganistan to ensure that heroin is flooding the American market to help perpetuate the unnecessary War on Drugs. We're literally at war to help foment a different war. You can't make this **** up...


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Rogue Valley said:
A dozen A-10s arrived at Kandahar Airbase on 19 January. All A-10s were pulled out of A-stan about three years ago. These Thunderbolts are from the 303d Expeditionary Fighter Squadron from Whiteman Air Force Base, Missouri.

A squad of MQ-9 Reaper drones, some HH-60G helicopters, and an additional 1,000 combat troops (~15,000 now total) have arrived at Bagram north of Kabul.

The A-10s at Incirlik Airbase (pounded ISIS) have been rotated home and their replacements were reassigned to Kandahar.

Much like the constant air attacks on Syria/Iraq oil fields that financed ISIS, the Pentagon aims to destroy the heroin-labs/convoys that fund the Taliban/ISIS in Afghanistan.
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Nonsense, the war on drugs is simply far to profitable to "win". Try as you may, you will never control (suppress?) demand by attempting to control (suppress?) only supply. The strategy of leave the user (demander) alone and pursue the dealer (supplier) is always doomed to failure.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Nonsense, the war on drugs is simply far to profitable to "win". Try as you may, you will never control (suppress?) demand by attempting to control (suppress?) only supply. The strategy of leave the user (demander) alone and pursue the dealer (supplier) is always doomed to failure.
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Not my idea of fun. Bitch to the Pentagon.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Not my idea of fun. Bitch to the Pentagon.
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Nope, it is said to be unpatriotic to object to US military "defense" missions. No matter what nonsense they get into you are sure to be shamed for daring to say that they are anything less than heroes for blindly doing what they are told.
 
Rogue Valley said:
A dozen A-10s arrived at Kandahar Airbase on 19 January. All A-10s were pulled out of A-stan about three years ago. These Thunderbolts are from the 303d Expeditionary Fighter Squadron from Whiteman Air Force Base, Missouri.

A squad of MQ-9 Reaper drones, some HH-60G helicopters, and an additional 1,000 combat troops (~15,000 now total) have arrived at Bagram north of Kabul.

The A-10s at Incirlik Airbase (pounded ISIS) have been rotated home and their replacements were reassigned to Kandahar.

Much like the constant air attacks on Syria/Iraq oil fields that financed ISIS, the Pentagon aims to destroy the heroin-labs/convoys that fund the Taliban/ISIS in Afghanistan.
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From what I understand they ground troops love the A10 but the AF is trying to kill it off.
It is a deadly piece of kit and cheaper to run and maintain than B52's and other bombers.
 
American said:
Trump is president now, not drug-addled Obama.
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That's true. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the heroin increases are due to Obama and his family's increased drug usage.
 
JANFU said:
From what I understand they ground troops love the A10 but the AF is trying to kill it off.
It is a deadly piece of kit and cheaper to run and maintain than B52's and other bombers.
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Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson apparently loves it and has asked Congress to keep the A-10 fleet funded and flying until 2025.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson apparently loves it and has asked Congress to keep the A-10 fleet funded and flying until 2025.
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And the Pentagon is IIRC reducing the fleet to 87 or so. New wings for the A10. Ad are they considering an A10 ungraded/new plane? It is one nasty piece of kit.
 
Rogue Valley said:
A dozen A-10s arrived at Kandahar Airbase on 19 January. All A-10s were pulled out of A-stan about three years ago. These Thunderbolts are from the 303d Expeditionary Fighter Squadron from Whiteman Air Force Base, Missouri.

A squad of MQ-9 Reaper drones, some HH-60G helicopters, and an additional 1,000 combat troops (~15,000 now total) have arrived at Bagram north of Kabul.

The A-10s at Incirlik Airbase (pounded ISIS) have been rotated home and their replacements were reassigned to Kandahar.

Much like the constant air attacks on Syria/Iraq oil fields that financed ISIS, the Pentagon aims to destroy the heroin-labs/convoys that fund the Taliban/ISIS in Afghanistan.
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The idiots in the Army and AF have been trying to get rid of the A-10 for decades.


https://www.counterpunch.org/2003/06/09/why-the-air-force-generals-want-to-kill-the-a-10/


There was no better platform I worked with than the A-10.
 
JANFU said:
And the Pentagon is IIRC reducing the fleet to 87 or so. New wings for the A10. Ad are they considering an A10 ungraded/new plane? It is one nasty piece of kit.
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I believe the AF does periodically upgrade the A-10 avionics packages.
 
Rogue Valley said:
I believe the AF does periodically upgrade the A-10 avionics packages.
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The Pentagon thinks they can save approx monies on maintenance and upgrades. They have been trying to kill the A10 for years.
As to avionics, I would say yes. Thing is the A10 is a great plane from tank killer to taking out enemy positions. In Astan they were using B2's when the troops on the ground wanted A10's made available to them. A10 is cheaper to operate than a B2 to operate and it wreaks havoc on the battlefield.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Nonsense, the war on drugs is simply far to profitable to "win". Try as you may, you will never control (suppress?) demand by attempting to control (suppress?) only supply. The strategy of leave the user (demander) alone and pursue the dealer (supplier) is always doomed to failure.
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^^^All that for the arms industry with the fringe benefit of feeding the prison industrial complex in the good ole USA? Nah, no way!:lol:
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
The idiots in the Army and AF have been trying to get rid of the A-10 for decades.


https://www.counterpunch.org/2003/06/09/why-the-air-force-generals-want-to-kill-the-a-10/


There was no better platform I worked with than the A-10.
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I have a nephew who spent two years patrolling the highway between Baghdad and the airport there (ground zero for IEDs). I asked him what he thought about the A-10s and his response was that he didn't see them in action very much, but the troops he served with who had seen them absolutely loved them. The big advantage they had was time on target. Since they are pretty slow, they can put fire on a target for much longer than a lot of faster planes can. They can also stand in the fight for a longer time, so not only can they put down a lot of damage, but they can soak it up as well and still be effective.
 
faithful_servant said:
I have a nephew who spent two years patrolling the highway between Baghdad and the airport there (ground zero for IEDs). I asked him what he thought about the A-10s and his response was that he didn't see them in action very much, but the troops he served with who had seen them absolutely loved them. The big advantage they had was time on target. Since they are pretty slow, they can put fire on a target for much longer than a lot of faster planes can. They can also stand in the fight for a longer time, so not only can they put down a lot of damage, but they can soak it up as well and still be effective.
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I was attached to several different army units, they all hated the Air Force until the JDams's started flying, and hearing the 30MM go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTT!!!!!!! and raining down brass was a wonderful thing to behold and made the one holding the phone very popular. ;)
 
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Like the A-10, only idiots would want it scrapped or not used to it's fullest. That said, how long have we been in the Stan? Somewhere around 17 years now, thinking it might be time to call it a day and get out, is it worth the lives of our fine soldiers, not to me it isn't.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
The idiots in the Army and AF have been trying to get rid of the A-10 for decades.


https://www.counterpunch.org/2003/06/09/why-the-air-force-generals-want-to-kill-the-a-10/


There was no better platform I worked with than the A-10.
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It's just so low and slow--you have to have a fairly sterile air-to-air environment and robust SAM suppression capes to employ it, but typically, we do, so it ends up being a such great force multiplier. Like the B-52, C-130, keep it forever I say. One beautiful thing about legacy weapons systems--maintainers get real good at keeping them flying.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
^^^All that for the arms industry with the fringe benefit of feeding the prison industrial complex in the good ole USA? Nah, no way!:lol:
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Yep, note the extremely limited targets in this extension of a WoD to the WoT in the OP. The aim was not to stop all the Afghan opium trade just that going to specific places (people?) which seems to indicate that some (much or most?) of the Afghan opium trade is to be left alone (to support the "good" drug dealers?).
 
Rogue Valley said:
A dozen A-10s arrived at Kandahar Airbase on 19 January. All A-10s were pulled out of A-stan about three years ago. These Thunderbolts are from the 303d Expeditionary Fighter Squadron from Whiteman Air Force Base, Missouri.

A squad of MQ-9 Reaper drones, some HH-60G helicopters, and an additional 1,000 combat troops (~15,000 now total) have arrived at Bagram north of Kabul.

The A-10s at Incirlik Airbase (pounded ISIS) have been rotated home and their replacements were reassigned to Kandahar.

Much like the constant air attacks on Syria/Iraq oil fields that financed ISIS, the Pentagon aims to destroy the heroin-labs/convoys that fund the Taliban/ISIS in Afghanistan.
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The Pentagon better check with the CIA before they start bombing poppy fields. Man alive, that's an efficient use of airpower eh, bombing poppy fields. :lol:
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Yep, note the extremely limited targets in this extension of a WoD to the WoT in the OP. The aim was not to stop all the Afghan opium trade just that going to specific places (people?) which seems to indicate that some (much or most?) of the Afghan opium trade is to be left alone (to support the "good" drug dealers?).
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Probably US pharma companies. They are such nice, morally upstanding citizens & all. LOFL...

The day that war went from "get bin Laden" to a neocon Nation Building experiment was the day it became a quicksand trap.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
Probably US pharma companies. They are such nice, morally upstanding citizens & all. LOFL...

The day that war went from "get bin Laden" to a neocon Nation Building experiment was the day it became a quicksand trap.
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Yep, you can count on and endless WoT just like the endless the WoD and WoP that we (are forced to?) spend so much on.
 
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