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Best CCW Weapon?

Whats your CCW choice

  • Revolver

    Votes: 6 35.3%

  • Semi Auto

    Votes: 6 35.3%

  • other

    Votes: 5 29.4%
  • Total voters
    17
  • Poll closed .
Desert Storm said:
This is why I think carrying a semi is a bad idea.
Yes it can happen with a revolver also, but the odds are less so

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that's why I carry a hammer down with safety on double action/single action Beretta rather than a striker fired rig with no safety
 
Lursa said:
More than enough :)

I used my laser on my full size 9mm for training purposes and to develop proficiency. I found it really helpful moving and shooting at IDPA practices.

But in a real life situation? I dont know. I can imagine some that it would be helpful.
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Practice just looking over top the weapon -- revolver or auto ; and shooting. Practice at 20 to 30 feet , start slow then pick up your speed.

You put rounds on target --- center mass on the chest ; or left and right pec muscles. You can use a 22 auto or double action revolver to get started and practice your form.

Pistol is level, you are walking ( safely ) and engaging threat targets by simply just looking over the top of the handgun. Then, practice drawing from a holster ( or purse ladies ) and raising the gun up. As soon as you can look over the top of the handgun with your peripheral vision.......shoot the threat ( target / silhouette ). I prefer firing two shots - with most calibers ; you want to stop the threat.

Sort of like throwing horse shoes. You swing the horseshoe....... and release ; following through with your throw - imagining the horseshoe on the ring. The same is with just looking over the handgun - and it is REALLT for close targets , about out to 35 feet.


Happy Holidays all.





Major Lambda
 
Tacti - Cool. Lights and lasers on weapons. They also.....MAKE YOU a target.

I know -- SWAT , the US Military all carry illumination devices on their weapon. Those illumination devices ALSO make you a target. "See the bright light.....shoot at it. Shoot at it with your handgun , shotgun, or semi / full auto weapon."

1. Use a handgun in close quarters - it is less likely to get taken away from you as you go around corners, enter rooms : ESPECIALLY if there is more than one bad guy ( Or Goblin as Jeff Cooper said ).

2. If you carry a rifle, carry a back up handgun. In case your long gun ( Rifle / Shotgun ) is taken away from you. a .380 , .22 , 9mm , .45 , 38 revolver. In case you get in a physical confrontation...you can draw your secondary weapon. If you are using a long gun......having a handgun for backup is a very prudent and worthwhile tactic.

3. Keep your handgun is as close as possible. Don't pay attention to TV cop shows, or Dramas. Forget the exciting violent movies with guns. Last track I had ( a few years ago ) -- One in four cops that are shot , are shot with their OWN GUNS. Thats 25% folks ; of TRAINED people -- whom get shot with their own service pistol. So DON'T GET your self defense weapon taken away from you and used on you.

4. Move slow, if you have to talk to another person ; talk as quietly as possible. You are moving ...DO NOT get in a hurry ---- Your still breathing, you have no holes in you ; and you are not in any danger. Move fast.......move inconsiderately --- And you might wind up in a body bag.

5. If possible , and they are not already. Give your eyes ten minutes to adjust to the darkness. Let them dilate. You go to bed of a night after watching tv -- you have trouble seeing without a light on. When you get up of a night ( if you do ) to go to the bedroom , you can see the walls , and dressers in your bed room. You could not before =- your eyes were constricted. But after sleeping ; they are dilated and let in more light. Use that to your advantage. Move slow, more with a purpose, listen and watch. Wait a few seconds before negotiating that corner or entering that room. A cough, a squeak, a frustrated exhale from the bad guy .....might tip you off to danger near ( Danger Close for us military folks ). As with being in the woods - in a unfamiliar environment ..... become "In tune " with your surroundings.


( :) CAPS are for stressing -- I was not yelling :) )


Skip lights on self defense weapons - save them for the coon hunt , camping gun. KEEP YOUR illumination device in a separate hand. Lasers are for poor shots , and women --- barricaded in a bedroom while a perp move about her house. Lights and lasers are devices that are also......TARGETS. See the illumination device / Laser. Shoot at Illumination device and laser.


Happy Holidays to all.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdSFw4ARaKo






Stay safe .......



Major Lambda
 
Major Lambda said:
Tacti - Cool. Lights and lasers on weapons. They also.....MAKE YOU a target.

I know -- SWAT , the US Military all carry illumination devices on their weapon. Those illumination devices ALSO make you a target. "See the bright light.....shoot at it. Shoot at it with your handgun , shotgun, or semi / full auto weapon."

1. Use a handgun in close quarters - it is less likely to get taken away from you as you go around corners, enter rooms : ESPECIALLY if there is more than one bad guy ( Or Goblin as Jeff Cooper said ).

2. If you carry a rifle, carry a back up handgun. In case your long gun ( Rifle / Shotgun ) is taken away from you. a .380 , .22 , 9mm , .45 , 38 revolver. In case you get in a physical confrontation...you can draw your secondary weapon. If you are using a long gun......having a handgun for backup is a very prudent and worthwhile tactic.

3. Keep your handgun is as close as possible. Don't pay attention to TV cop shows, or Dramas. Forget the exciting violent movies with guns. Last track I had ( a few years ago ) -- One in four cops that are shot , are shot with their OWN GUNS. Thats 25% folks ; of TRAINED people -- whom get shot with their own service pistol. So DON'T GET your self defense weapon taken away from you and used on you.

4. Move slow, if you have to talk to another person ; talk as quietly as possible. You are moving ...DO NOT get in a hurry ---- Your still breathing, you have no holes in you ; and you are not in any danger. Move fast.......move inconsiderately --- And you might wind up in a body bag.

5. If possible , and they are not already. Give your eyes ten minutes to adjust to the darkness. Let them dilate. You go to bed of a night after watching tv -- you have trouble seeing without a light on. When you get up of a night ( if you do ) to go to the bedroom , you can see the walls , and dressers in your bed room. You could not before =- your eyes were constricted. But after sleeping ; they are dilated and let in more light. Use that to your advantage. Move slow, more with a purpose, listen and watch. Wait a few seconds before negotiating that corner or entering that room. A cough, a squeak, a frustrated exhale from the bad guy .....might tip you off to danger near ( Danger Close for us military folks ). As with being in the woods - in a unfamiliar environment ..... become "In tune " with your surroundings.


( :) CAPS are for stressing -- I was not yelling :) )


Skip lights on self defense weapons - save them for the coon hunt , camping gun. KEEP YOUR illumination device in a separate hand. Lasers are for poor shots , and women --- barricaded in a bedroom while a perp move about her house. Lights and lasers are devices that are also......TARGETS. See the illumination device / Laser. Shoot at Illumination device and laser.


Happy Holidays to all.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdSFw4ARaKo






Stay safe .......



Major Lambda
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Sorry but I couldn’t disagree with you anymore with regards to your thoughts on lights on self defense weapons. You have to see what you have to see. Having a light on your weapon could be the difference between you shooting a robber in your house and shooting a drunk teen who mistakenly went in the wrong house.
Now I am not saying to have the light on all the time because yeah that’s a bad idea but having a weapon mounted light is a very useful tool. A light in your support hand is a poor substitute.

It’s why every single one of our issued M4s and pistols have lights on them
 
Desert Storm said:
This is why I think carrying a semi is a bad idea.
Yes it can happen with a revolver also, but the odds are less so

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This is why you keep your god damn finger off the trigger until your on target.

You watch his hand and dumb ass didn’t follow simple protocol.

Not the gun’s fault. Trigger gets pulled. Gun goes bang. Like it was suppose to.

It’s User screw ups like this why I’m such a jag over safe gun handling.

“I know C, I know. You don’t have to keep telling me”.

“If you know then I wouldn’t have to keep telling you”.
 
I load this .44 Special with #4 shotshells when I carry and when i am out and about on foot.
If i travel in my vehicle, I have my 1911 in an anti-snatch & grab box in the vehicle, but not on me when I stop and get out.
Things are pretty peaceful in my neighborhood and the gang activity seems to be mostly in Pasadena.
Still, I keep my head on a swivel.
It is traveling out of town is when i feel most vulnerable.

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ChezC3 said:
This is why you keep your god damn finger off the trigger until your on target.

You watch his hand and dumb ass didn’t follow simple protocol.

Not the gun’s fault. Trigger gets pulled. Gun goes bang. Like it was suppose to.

It’s User screw ups like this why I’m such a jag over safe gun handling
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Sure, but if you're ever suddenly caught up in shooting, you might not remember that with all the adrenaline flowing through you.

Thats why I think revolver is best option.
Revolvers are also less likely to get jammed up
 
Desert Storm said:
Sure, but if you're ever suddenly caught up in shooting, you might not remember that with all the adrenaline flowing through you.

Thats why I think revolver is best option.
Revolvers are also less likely to get jammed up
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I hear ya, but that's why people should train. I remember back in culinary school, a chef had a saying that he instilled in all us budding gastronomer's heads the very first day of class. He gave this same spiel to each and everyone of his intro courses

He used to say, "We all know the old saying, right? Practice makes.......what?"

To which the class would reply in unison, "Perfect!"

"Wrong!!!", he'd chastise. "You can do something a hundred thousand times, but if how you're doing it is incorrect, how is that perfect?"

"Practice makes permanent."

Drill it into your head until there is no other way you know how to do it.

But, if someone is truly uncomfortable than I whole-heartedly recommend that yes, they look to using a hammerless revolver as their carry.

Another option one might think of using, which again will take practice, lots of practice is what is known as the "Israeli draw".

With a semi-auto (hammer fire) you carry with no round in the chamber and position yourself to quickly pull the slide back as you're bringing up to target and firing. You can find this method on youtube, and it shows roughly a .5 second differential from the hammer back safety on position which is often recommended.

I think I seen TD say he basically starts from a safety on double action position which is fine too. If you have practiced firing that way. Many people have problems with accuracy when they are unaccustomed to the additional weight of the trigger.

If you keep your pistol clean, use quality ammo, and own Glock (;)) you shouldn't have to worry about jams.
 
I live in Pennsylvania where all you need to buy a gun is the ability to put your cash or credit card on the gun store's counter. Very different from NJ where I used to live where you have to jump through hoops to even buy a gun.

I have a 12-gauge pump action shotgun & a S&W snub-nose hammerless revolver in 22 magnum, both for home defense.

I chose a revolver because I've experienced jams with automatics. I used to have a collection of P08 Lugers. For whatever reason (age, wear, lack of sufficient powder in the U.S. commercial 9 mm rounds, etc) the ejected shell jammed in the toggle action, rendering the pistol inoperative.

The scary thing in PA is the ease with you can get a CC permit. There is your typical abundance of aggressive drivers on the roads & you never know if you might meet one by accident, say in a road rage incident, & he's heavy but your not. A little adrenaline behind a nut with a pistol is something to think about.
 
Major Lambda said:
Practice just looking over top the weapon -- revolver or auto ; and shooting. Practice at 20 to 30 feet , start slow then pick up your speed.

You put rounds on target --- center mass on the chest ; or left and right pec muscles. You can use a 22 auto or double action revolver to get started and practice your form.

Pistol is level, you are walking ( safely ) and engaging threat targets by simply just looking over the top of the handgun. Then, practice drawing from a holster ( or purse ladies ) and raising the gun up. As soon as you can look over the top of the handgun with your peripheral vision.......shoot the threat ( target / silhouette ). I prefer firing two shots - with most calibers ; you want to stop the threat.

Sort of like throwing horse shoes. You swing the horseshoe....... and release ; following through with your throw - imagining the horseshoe on the ring. The same is with just looking over the handgun - and it is REALLT for close targets , about out to 35 feet.


Happy Holidays all.





Major Lambda
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Well I wont be practicing with anything but my self-defense weapons but re: your drills...I do them constantly...for cowboy mounted shooting.
 
I have a snub nose .357 and a 9mm subcompact. Recoil-wise, the 9mm is a better choice.
 
JacksinPA said:
I live in Pennsylvania where all you need to buy a gun is the ability to put your cash or credit card on the gun store's counter. Very different from NJ where I used to live where you have to jump through hoops to even buy a gun.

I have a 12-gauge pump action shotgun & a S&W snub-nose hammerless revolver in 22 magnum, both for home defense.

I chose a revolver because I've experienced jams with automatics. I used to have a collection of P08 Lugers. For whatever reason (age, wear, lack of sufficient powder in the U.S. commercial 9 mm rounds, etc) the ejected shell jammed in the toggle action, rendering the pistol inoperative.

The scary thing in PA is the ease with you can get a CC permit. There is your typical abundance of aggressive drivers on the roads & you never know if you might meet one by accident, say in a road rage incident, & he's heavy but your not. A little adrenaline behind a nut with a pistol is something to think about.
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as state after state started allowing CCW permits, the anti gun movement warned of these road rage shootings. Guess what-it never happened.
 
worksforpigs said:
I have a snub nose .357 and a 9mm subcompact. Recoil-wise, the 9mm is a better choice.
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advantages of a snub nose revolver

1) it will function reliably with under powered ammo-hot ammo or anything in between
2) it will function reliably even if the user "limp wrists" the gun
3) it is far easier to ascertain a revolver is unloaded
4) many women and some men, have a hard time racking the slide of a semi auto-especially a hammer driven blow back (ie 380) smaller auto or the bigger autos shooting 45 or 40 SW.
5) there are no safeties to forget to take off in an emergency

advantages of a semi auto

1) often better ergonomics
2)much easier to reload if you have spare magazines
3) almost always a lighter/better trigger pull save for some of the DA only rigs
4) easier to conceal due to flatter profile
5) often have higher magazine capacities than the five rounds most snubbies hold
6)generally less recoil than a similar snobby of the same weight and power
7) some smaller autos like the GLOCK 26 or the SW MP compact can use the full size magazines of their bigger brothers and thus make idea backup guns for those carrying the full size pistols as well. also it means in a gun fight you can back up your 26 with a 17 round magazine
 
TurtleDude said:
advantages of a snub nose revolver

1) it will function reliably with under powered ammo-hot ammo or anything in between
2) it will function reliably even if the user "limp wrists" the gun
3) it is far easier to ascertain a revolver is unloaded
4) many women and some men, have a hard time racking the slide of a semi auto-especially a hammer driven blow back (ie 380) smaller auto or the bigger autos shooting 45 or 40 SW.
5) there are no safeties to forget to take off in an emergency

This is a big one....and one of the main reasons my daughter opted for a revolver; she isn't very big, and had problems chambering a round....she currently carries a "Public Defender" Judge....easy for her to operate with small hands, and still enough to halt an assailant in their tracks with either the Colt .45 or .410
advantages of a semi auto

1) often better ergonomics
2)much easier to reload if you have spare magazines
3) almost always a lighter/better trigger pull save for some of the DA only rigs
4) easier to conceal due to flatter profile
5) often have higher magazine capacities than the five rounds most snubbies hold
6)generally less recoil than a similar snobby of the same weight and power
7) some smaller autos like the GLOCK 26 or the SW MP compact can use the full size magazines of their bigger brothers and thus make idea backup guns for those carrying the full size pistols as well. also it means in a gun fight you can back up your 26 with a 17 round magazine
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This was the part she missed with the Semi-auto......but she does spend time on the range practicing with her revolver speed loader....she considers it a fair trade off, and she has become proficient.

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TurtleDude said:
that's why I carry a hammer down with safety on double action/single action Beretta rather than a striker fired rig with no safety
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I am looking at still getting the mp shield the 9mm.
Has a manual thumb safety and is semi auto.

They have the second version out there.

They have a 45 but a 9mm is just fine.
 
Polar Bum said:
This was the part she missed with the Semi-auto......but she does spend time on the range practicing with her revolver speed loader....she considers it a fair trade off, and she has become proficient.

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I like the Safariland spring loaded speed loaders but the ones she has are great-they made me some for my 327 eight shot rig that normally uses full moon clips-which are a pain to load for range use.
 
ludin said:
I am looking at still getting the mp shield the 9mm.
Has a manual thumb safety and is semi auto.

They have the second version out there.

They have a 45 but a 9mm is just fine.
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have one, carried it a lot two-three years ago. Haven't tried the new one yet. great gun for the money. I prefer the MP compact-slightly bigger but I can use the full size 17 round mags in it
 
I find that people who ask questions like this understand nothing, and aren't really interested in honest answers.
 
TurtleDude said:
have one, carried it a lot two-three years ago. Haven't tried the new one yet. great gun for the money. I prefer the MP compact-slightly bigger but I can use the full size 17 round mags in it
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Only complaint is that it has a long trigger reset but nothing that bad.
 
While this is still a negligent fire, here's little longer video explaining the whole thing.

 
Although I carry a Sig .380 or my Sig P938 mini 9mm, I also carry this Nighthawk Custom 1911 .45 on occasion.

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Tanngrisnir said:
I find that people who ask questions like this understand nothing, and aren't really interested in honest answers.
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translation:

"I am ignorant on the topic, but I am also triggered so let me throw out an insult so I feel better about myself"
 
Marco Montana said:
I like Revolver as a CCW, I know rounds rounds rounds.... But I'll take shot placement over 15 rounds any day. I've been a victim of a mugging, and been jumped a few times. It never happens from 20 feet away its always from behind or turning a corner within 5 feet. Semi Autos are great but I read a story a man was attacked from behind he was carrying groceries.

The perp put a knife to his back, he had a gun in his waistband, he spun around dropped his groceries and pulled his gun and fired, however he was to close and ended up out of breach. ( the gun didn't eject the spent round ) and therefore couldn't fire again. He said the bullet hit him somewhere near his shoulder. He explains after the gun didn't fire he was screwed and had to use his left hand to grab the perps knife hand so here he was holding the guys knife from stabbing him, and holding his weapon out of breach.

He goes on to say another perp came and they stabbed him 14 times in the stomach and lower legs, he said he would have died of blood loss if his neighbor didn't run out with a lamp cord he ripped off to tie off his artery. Had he had a Revolver none of this would have happened!

So I am NOT saying Revolvers don't have issues, but what say you?
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I watched a video of a guy who was shot like 5 Times with a revolver and didn’t die. I want to keep putting rounds in till the target hits the floor. There is a reason LEOs and military don’t use revolvers anymore.
 
blackjack50 said:
I watched a video of a guy who was shot like 5 Times with a revolver and didn’t die. I want to keep putting rounds in till the target hits the floor. There is a reason LEOs and military don’t use revolvers anymore.
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Sounds like they need more time at the range, I was shot 3 times with a 9mm I didn't die!
 
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