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Court Reverses Conviction Of Marine Sniper Who Urinated On Dead Taliban

apdst said:
Odviously you don't, because one is a criminal proceeding.
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Lmao, good stuff, and you're still excusing and justifying it. Again, your justification is that nobody should care what is done to these people. The only problem is that the military actually does and has for the last 100 years.
 
blackjack50 said:
Can't wait for the excuse why this was ok. Great post
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He just doesn't get it. He says he's not justifying, then goes on to argue why it is justified. Emotions, online machismo and bull****.
 
Hatuey said:
Lmao, good stuff, and you're still excusing and justifying it. Again, your justification is that nobody should care what is done to these people. The only problem is that the military actually does and has for the last 100 years.
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Obviously you're wrong.
 
apdst said:
Obviously you're wrong.
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I'm wrong about what? You trying to justify it by saying nobody cares, and it's all about whipping the enemy into submission? Apdst, tagmo just obliterated your arguments. You're still sitting here telling everyone you weren't justifying it using the emotions of the people involved.
 
Hatuey said:
I'm wrong about what? You trying to justify it by saying nobody cares, and it's all about whipping the enemy into submission? Apdst, tagmo just obliterated your arguments. You're still sitting here telling everyone you weren't justifying it using the emotions of the people involved.
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I said it didn't rate a criminal charge. How is that justifying it?
 
Hatuey said:
He just doesn't get it. He says he's not justifying, then goes on to argue why it is justified. Emotions, online machismo and bull****.
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Bingo. I don't think he even understands why it is morally reprehensible. He should try explaining his view to someone he cares about. About the only way it will sink in.
 
blackjack50 said:
Bingo. I don't think he even understands why it is morally reprehensible. He should try explaining his view to someone he cares about. About the only way it will sink in.
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I have a weird feeling that people around him are more than willing to justify taking a piss on a dead body. I wouldn't be surprised if they were using the same language.

apdst said:
I said it didn't rate a criminal charge. How is that justifying it?
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You're justifying pissing on somebody's dead body because "we" shouldn't care how some enemies are treated. That's the textbook definition of justifying why something can be done. You've demonstrated that it's justified because of emotions, machismo and well some arbitrary code of wartime ethics you have. Other people in the military have demonstrated in spades that this is nonsense. You're still posting and trying to get the last word when you've spent all of your time in a 557 post thread talking about why people shouldn't be reprimanded by the justice system for pissing on dead bodies.
 
Hatuey said:
I have a weird feeling that people around him are more than willing to justify taking a piss on a dead body. I wouldn't be surprised if they were using the same language.



You're justifying pissing on somebody's dead body because "we" shouldn't care how some enemies are treated. That's the textbook definition of justifying why something can be done. You've demonstrated that it's justified because of emotions, machismo and well some arbitrary code of wartime ethics you have. Other people in the military have demonstrated in spades that this is nonsense. You're still posting and trying to get the last word when you've spent all of your time in a 557 post thread talking about why people shouldn't be reprimanded by the justice system for pissing on dead bodies.
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Do you have a point, or is this your usual mouth frothing?
 
apdst said:
Do you have a point, or is this your usual mouth frothing?
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Yes, I'm not surprised you didn't get it though. So no worries. :)
 
apdst said:
Mouth frothing. That's what I thought.
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Anyways, why do you believe you should get to piss on dead bodies if you're emotional enough?

You're already liable to get dinged for the personal attack above. Your mistake was saying 'your mouth frothing'. It's a little too late to try and change the post now though. :lol:
 
Hatuey said:
Anyways, why do you believe you should get to piss on dead bodies if you're emotional enough?

You're already liable to get dinged for the personal attack above. Your mistake was saying 'your mouth frothing'. It's a little too late to try and change the post now though. :lol:
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My point was and is: it doesn't rate a court-martial. Been saying that from the git-go.
 
apdst said:
My point was and is: it doesn't rate a court-martial. Been saying that from the git-go.
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Your point was that nobody should care because it's fine to piss on dead people if emotions are running high enough. You understand how anyone can get that emotional. That's your justification for it. For you to sit here now and waste my wifi telling me you're against someone being prosecuted for it doesn't change the fact that you spend most of your time a 563 post thread trying to argue why it's fine to piss on dead bodies in some cases.
 
Hatuey said:
Your point was that nobody should care because it's fine to piss on dead people if emotions are running high enough. You understand how anyone can get that emotional. That's your justification for it. For you to sit here now and waste my wifi telling me you're against someone being prosecuted for it doesn't change the fact that you spend most of your time a 563 post thread trying to argue why it's fine to piss on dead bodies in some cases.
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Where did I say that?
 
apdst said:
Where did I say that?
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I explained that it was your point not that it was a literal quote. Kind of like how one of Sweet Home Alabama's points is dissing segregationists and racists, without actually calling them out. Extrapolating is an important part of issue comprehension.
 
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Hatuey said:
I explained that it was your point not that it was a literal quote. Kind of like how one of Sweet Home Alabama's points is dissing segregationists and racists, without actually calling them out. Extrapolating is an important part of issue comprehension.
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Since you can't quote me, you resorted to reading my mind? Cranking up your crystal ball?

There's a reason some offenses in the service are dealt with using an Article 15 and others are dealth using a court-martial. The reason being some ofdenses are just someone doing something stupid and other offenses are actual crimes. Pissing on someone after you've exploded his head with a large bore rifle round, or heavy weapons falls into the category of doing something stupid. Actually, the stupid part was posting the video on the internet.
 
apdst said:
Since you can't quote me, you resorted to reading my mind? Cranking up your crystal ball?
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Quote... you... on... what? Why people shouldn't care that a dead body was pissed on? Here it is.

apdst said:
They killed the dude; literally blew his head off. After that, it's irrelevant that they pissed on him.

Not to mention, he was a piece of **** terrorist scumbag. Who cares what happens to him?
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Here you are. It's only about the second grossest thing I've heard this week. After some guy who prayed his child molestating thoughts away.
 
Hatuey said:
Quote... you... on... what? Why people shouldn't care that a dead body was pissed on? Here it is.



Here you are.
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It's funny (maybe not) that you ignore the entire thread topic. Why is that?
 
apdst said:
It's funny (maybe not) that you ignore the entire thread topic. Why is that?
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What did I ignore? How you tried to justify pissing on a dead body? No, I'm pretty sure I looked into it and thought it was a pretty disgusting opinion to have. Second only to trying argue that a person can pray child molestation away.

You simply didn't set the bar high enough when it came to an intellectual discussion in this thread. You went straight in and dehumanized the person because of their actions. Then you argued that it was irrelevant for a dead body to be pissed on because someone's emotions were running high. You know that's how ISIS gets so many kids to cut throats on camera right? Telling them it doesn't matter because they're the enemy? Getting their emotions all riled up. It's like a nouveau macho-snowflake type of deal.

The whole thing is stomach turning.
 
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Hatuey said:
What did I ignore? How you tried to justify pissing on a dead body? No, I'm pretty sure I looked into it and thought it was a pretty disgusting opinion to have. Second only to trying argue that a person can pray child molestation away.

You simply didn't set the bar high enough when it came to an intellectual discussion in this thread. You went straight in and dehumanized the person, because of their actions, and then argued that it was irrelevant to be pissed on. You know that's how ISIS gets so many kids to cut throats on camera right? Telling them it doesn't matter because they're the enemy?
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You're ignoring the fact that I'm not the topic of the thread.

The topic is SSG Chamblin was illegally charged and tried. That's the reason that the convictiin was overturned. Do you agree that general officers shouldn't break the law in order to secure a conviction?
 
apdst said:
You're ignoring the fact that I'm not the topic of the thread.
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That's right because you aren't. I stated that your position in the thread is pretty disgusting. Again, comprehension in this discussion is soooooo crucial. You argued that it's not worth caring about because:

1. He was dead
2. It was irrelevant

That's a pretty piss poor argument for not caring that anyone's dead body was pissed on by a soldier. Did you know that ISIS turns people into psychopaths by constantly enforcing the fact that it does not matter that the enemy is slaughtered in front of a camera because ISIS supporters will go to heaven for it anyways? It's kind of a terrible position to start off with.

Why do you always try to make things about you instead of about the disgusting opinions you hold?
 
Hatuey said:
That's right because you aren't. I stated that your position in the thread is pretty disgusting. Again, comprehension in this discussion is soooooo crucial. You argued that it's not worth caring about because:

1. He was dead
2. It was irrelevant

That's a pretty piss poor argument for not caring that anyone's dead body was pissed on by a soldier. Did you know that ISIS turns people into psychopaths by constantly enforcing the fact that it does not matter that the enemy is slaughtered in front of a camera because ISIS supporters will go to heaven for it anyways? It's kind of a terrible position to start off with.

Why do you always try to make things about you instead of about the disgusting opinions you hold?
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If you were SSG Chamblin's company commander, would you have reported his actions the the JAG?
 
apdst said:
If you were SSG Chamblin's company commander
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I am not. So I can't say. However, if my last name was Chamblin instead of what it currently is, I'd still find it equally disgusting to piss on a dead body. I wouldn't try to justify it because the person is dead.

You on the other hand....
 
Hatuey said:
I am not. So I can't say. However, if my last name was Chamblin instead of what it currently is, I'd still find it equally disgusting to piss on a dead body. I wouldn't try to justify it because the person is dead.

You on the other hand....
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I see...you insist on making the thread about me. Got it...out.
 
apdst said:
I see...you insist on making the thread about me. Got it...out.
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You're asking me about a worthless mind exercise where I pretend to be another person. I say that I'd hold the same opinion no matter what my last name is. Your name isn't Chamblin, yet you hold a morally reprehensible opinion. I don't think that would change if you were Chamblin.

So what we have is that you try to get in someone's head, then complain when that person explains that it doesn't not matter what their name is because the opinion remains the same. Then, you complain and try to say it's about you when the same logic is applied to your position.

Why do you hold the opinion that it's irrelevant to piss on a dead body when the emotions are right?
 
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