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KISS in Iraq-For the Anthem kneelers

Floridafan said:
That right came from our constitution.
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Yes, that right did but there is a time and place for it, the national anthem isn't the place. Listen to the video and thank those who you are abusing by using that right
 
Conservative said:
Yes, that right did but there is a time and place for it, the national anthem isn't the place. Listen to the video and thank those who you are abusing by using that right
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You don't get to determine just who uses their constitutional rights or where they choose to do it. Thats what this country is all about.
 
Conservative said:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/5MtdIO23MKM

Just a reminder, this is our Military and what gives the kneelers the opportunity to disrespect our flag and our country's National Anthem
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Kiss rocks.

Your OP, however, does not and is misguided. "Kneelers" as you call them aren't disrespecting the flag or the national anthem. You choose to take it that way, however because you obviously don't grant certain groups of people trying to make life better for their children.

Major fail.
 
lurchadams said:
Kiss rocks.

Your OP, however, does not and is misguided. "Kneelers" as you call them aren't disrespecting the flag or the national anthem. You choose to take it that way, however because you obviously don't grant certain groups of people trying to make life better for their children.

Major fail.
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there is a time and place for protest, the national anthem isn't that time or place. Only the leftwing radicals see it differently and always let words create reasons for protests
 
Tigerace117 said:
Without the military our constitution never would have survived.
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That does not take away a citizens right to exercise their rights, regardless if you don't like it.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Without the military our constitution never would have survived.
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without the US military many countries could determine their own fates, instead of having Uncle Sam for a baby sitter, propaganda tool, and a thief of resources ...............
 
Conservative said:
there is a time and place for protest, the national anthem isn't that time or place.
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Yes, because a football game is such a sacred event.

Conservative said:
Only the leftwing radicals see it differently and always let words create reasons for protests
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Your above sentence makes no sense for two reasons:

1. You have no basis that all football players and those that support their right to protest are "left wing radicals".
2. The players aren't protesting words. They're protesting the systematic racism in some police departments and people like you who would deny their constitutional right to point out this injustice.
 
Floridafan said:
That does not take away a citizens right to exercise their rights, regardless if you don't like it.
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But the citizen should also exercise what is known as "their bras in" and perhaps think about things before they say and do idiotic things, like claiming they are fighting "injustice" while praising a brutal dictatorship.
 
Conservative said:
there is a time and place for protest, the national anthem isn't that time or place. Only the leftwing radicals see it differently and always let words create reasons for protests
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The national anthem has not been our anthem for that long, and contains racial insults. It is not as sacred as people getting crazy about this pretend it to be.

Hell the Stanley cup deserves more respect.

And yes I served as has nearly everyone in my family for at least five generations.
 
cuban smokes said:
without the US military many countries could determine their own fates, instead of having Uncle Sam for a baby sitter, propaganda tool, and a thief of resources ...............
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Aw, still crying about Saddam getting overthrown? Maybe he shouldn't have gassed his own people, dropped them in "chemical baths" and generally treated them like **** if he didn't want other people to stop him.

If you think your "fate" is to exterminate your minorities and support terrorists, I hate to burst your bubble, but other people get a veto on that.

"Thief of resources" my ass. If we wanted the resources we could have easily taken them instead of, you know, them still sitting there.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Aw, still crying about Saddam getting overthrown? Maybe he shouldn't have gassed his own people, dropped them in "chemical baths" and generally treated them like **** if he didn't want other people to stop him.

If you think your "fate" is to exterminate your minorities and support terrorists, I hate to burst your bubble, but other people get a veto on that.

"Thief of resources" my ass. If we wanted the resources we could have easily taken them instead of, you know, them still sitting there.
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elements of the US Government were supporting Saddam

many of the weapons he retained for some time & used against his own people were made by US manufacturers & supplied by the US Government

I see you left that out of your whining narrative ............

the US & US corporations have stolen resources & continue to do so via military action; this has been going on for longer than I have been alive & is not exclusive to the GW Bush Iraq War
 
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Conservative said:
there is a time and place for protest, the national anthem isn't that time or place. Only the leftwing radicals see it differently and always let words create reasons for protests
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You can't enforce respect or patriotism.

They do that in dictatorships.
 
Tigerace117 said:
But the citizen should also exercise what is known as "their bras in" and perhaps think about things before they say and do idiotic things, like claiming they are fighting "injustice" while praising a brutal dictatorship.
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The only brutal dictatorship I have seen praised is in our current White House. Maybe you need to spend a bit less time trying to control a persons 1st amendment rights and worry more about what this administration is doing to our country.
 
Tigerace117 said:
But the citizen should also exercise what is known as "their bras in" and perhaps think about things before they say and do idiotic things, like claiming they are fighting "injustice" while praising a brutal dictatorship.
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Who are these citizesns 'prasiing a brutal dictatorship'? Please name some names and how they're relevant to this issue.
 
cuban smokes said:
elements of the US Government were supporting Saddam

many of the weapons he retained for some time & used against his own people were made by US manufacturers & supplied by the US Government

I see you left that out of your whining narrative ............

the US & US corporations have stolen resources & continue to do so via military action; this has been going on for longer than I have been alive & is not exclusive to the GW Bush Iraq War
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Except no, once again there was a zero evidence that outside of the Iran Iraq War that we ever supported Saddam, and even then our support was rather minimal. The Russians and French did far more.

Except no, despite your conspiracy theory Saddam's gear was produced in the old USSR and in France. Unless you think we suddenly got in the business of building Mirage fighter jets and Mi-24 attack helicopters, your theory is once rather lacking in accuracy.

Yes, I did leave those rather obvious historical inaccuracies out because, you know, they aren't true
Feel free to whine about it some more.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Who are these citizesns 'prasiing a brutal dictatorship'? Please name some names and how they're relevant to this issue.
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Hmm..... let's see. Colin Kaepernick, for starters, and he's relevant because his fit started the whole thing off.
 
cuban smokes said:
without the US military many countries could determine their own fates, instead of having Uncle Sam for a baby sitter, propaganda tool, and a thief of resources ...............
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Can you even begin to count the number of countries that the CIA and military have supported right wing dictators, just solely because they act appropriately to the US? Have we ever really cared about the people of those countries and what their dictators have done? Absolutely not, its all about being the "water boy" to America. Just look at Cuba today, without our interference in their politics, the Castro brothers may never have taken control.
 
Conservative said:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/5MtdIO23MKM
Just a reminder, this is our Military and what gives the kneelers the opportunity to disrespect our flag and our country's National Anthem
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The disrespect is not towards a flag or a song, it's towards racist leaders who don't give a **** about minorities, but feel free to keep lying if you so choose.
 
Floridafan said:
The only brutal dictatorship I have seen praised is in our current White House. Maybe you need to spend a bit less time trying to control a persons 1st amendment rights and worry more about what this administration is doing to our country.
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:lamo

God, Americans and, to a lesser extent, Western Europeans are so spoiled it makes me sick.

No, Trump is not a "brutal dictator". He's a moron, and I will likely never support him, but to call him a "brutal dictator" is laughable, especially when you have people like Assad, Putin and Al-Bashir running around.

The fact that you have no frame of reference for what an actual brutal dictatorship is so you've decided that anyone you really don't like qualifies is another thing you can thank the military for by the way.

Maybe you spend a bit more time learning some history and a bit less hyperventilating. Wouldn't want you to make another ludicrous claim like that one.
 
MrWonka said:
The disrespect is not towards a flag or a song, it's towards racist leaders who don't give a **** about minorities, but feel free to keep lying if you so choose.
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And praising a regime which brutally treated actual Africans in Africa like crap, as well as their own population. Don't forget that part of Colin's crush on Fidel.
 
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