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He thinks it actually works (Trump on anti-ICBM system)

I'm not going to attempt to defend the Military industrial complex and the budget overruns that defines it.

I do, however, with full throated passion, tout the creative and brilliant solutions that our collective research folks implement.

If they think there is a way to obsolete the nuclear missile arsenals of the nuts around the world, I say, "Go for it!"

I agree with that, I'm all for researchers researching. My point here started about deploying stuff before it's ready, but I'll talk about how much to spend on the various projects.
Most of the researchers prefer to get paid. How do they get paid? They reply to FOAs, RFIs , or some private source.
Equipment they need costs money. And their time is valuable.

Private researchers can do what they want, but priorities must be made for government spending on research.
 
U mean like how to take down 50.000 MIRVs "Hey Presto!"?


Not quite, but that was the concept was to engage and defeat over 50,000 missiles. It was defense in depth with primary focus on the boost stage and secondary focus just after atmosphere exit.
 
I agree with that, I'm all for researchers researching. My point here started about deploying stuff before it's ready, but I'll talk about how much to spend on the various projects.
Most of the researchers prefer to get paid. How do they get paid? They reply to FOAs, RFIs , or some private source.
Equipment they need costs money. And their time is valuable.

Private researchers can do what they want, but priorities must be made for government spending on research.

Agreed! priorities must be set for ALL government spending.
 
OK, let me inject a little bit of reality to this mess of a thread.

First of all, yes Missile Defense works. We have at this time in the US military 4 (5) different systems in place, and all of them have been tested. Yet for all that I see people "flapping their lips", they seem to only be talking about one system, GMD.

Yes, GMD is based only in California and Alaska. For one very good reason. That pits them within range of the test sites in the Marshall Islands for one. After all, these are still test systems. But the other reason is that the odds are high that any actual inbound missile will come either from a cross-polar trajectory, or a cross-Pacific trajectory. That places them in a perfect position to intercept.

OK, that is one system. I will now go through the other 3 (4) from smallest to largest.

PATRIOT. OK, not really intended for ICBM intercepts, but it is capable of that, if barely. This would be an absolute last resort because it could only fire in the terminal phase of descent prior to detonation.

THAAD. This is largely "PATRIOT on steroids". Also ground based, but with a greater speed and range. So has a much better chance to intercept.

SM-2/SM-3. This is what the Navy uses on it's AEGIS class warships. This is a true ICBM killer system. So long as there is a ship within range to intercept, it can and will do so. And this system is already well tested.

Now the system I included in parenthesis. That is AEGIS Ashore. Romania already has this system, Poland has them under construction. And we are in talks with Japan in their acquiring this system. Essentially a ground mounted AEGIS RADAR array, with SM-3 missiles. Just as effective as the SM-3 aboard ship, this is also a proven system.

And there is no reason we could not build this system at key points inside the US.

So for all of those crying "missile defense does not work", sorry but you are wrong. It does work.
 
OK, let me inject a little bit of reality to this mess of a thread.

First of all, yes Missile Defense works. We have at this time in the US military 4 (5) different systems in place, and all of them have been tested. Yet for all that I see people "flapping their lips", they seem to only be talking about one system, GMD.

Yes, GMD is based only in California and Alaska. For one very good reason. That pits them within range of the test sites in the Marshall Islands for one. After all, these are still test systems. But the other reason is that the odds are high that any actual inbound missile will come either from a cross-polar trajectory, or a cross-Pacific trajectory. That places them in a perfect position to intercept.

OK, that is one system. I will now go through the other 3 (4) from smallest to largest.

PATRIOT. OK, not really intended for ICBM intercepts, but it is capable of that, if barely. This would be an absolute last resort because it could only fire in the terminal phase of descent prior to detonation.

THAAD. This is largely "PATRIOT on steroids". Also ground based, but with a greater speed and range. So has a much better chance to intercept.

SM-2/SM-3. This is what the Navy uses on it's AEGIS class warships. This is a true ICBM killer system. So long as there is a ship within range to intercept, it can and will do so. And this system is already well tested.

Now the system I included in parenthesis. That is AEGIS Ashore. Romania already has this system, Poland has them under construction. And we are in talks with Japan in their acquiring this system. Essentially a ground mounted AEGIS RADAR array, with SM-3 missiles. Just as effective as the SM-3 aboard ship, this is also a proven system.

And there is no reason we could not build this system at key points inside the US.

So for all of those crying "missile defense does not work", sorry but you are wrong. It does work.

Isn't it funny how these arm chair generals seem to think they know so much more than the best minds in the military?
 
Isn't it funny how these arm chair generals seem to think they know so much more than the best minds in the military?

What I see is a lot of people only looking at a single system, and all seem to have some kind of agenda they are trying to push.

Myself, I have worked hands-on with 2 of those systems, and talked with people involved in the others.

One of the beautiful things about my time at the White Sands Missile Range, is that I talked with people involved in both the SM-2/3 system, as well as those developing AEGIS Ashore. I have also seen a lot of test video and reports on them and their capabilities. It really is impressive. The only recent failure in SM-3 was a human error. The technician during a live fire accidentally designated the target missile after launch from target to friendly, so the interceptor self-destructed. That is what it was designed to do. Human error, not system fail (and in fact it also ended up testing an intended part of the system, that it self-destruct before hitting a friendly). So even that fail was a win, for being an unintentional test of a different part of the system.
 
OK, let me inject a little bit of reality to this mess of a thread.

First of all, yes Missile Defense works. We have at this time in the US military 4 (5) different systems in place, and all of them have been tested. Yet for all that I see people "flapping their lips", they seem to only be talking about one system, GMD.
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So for all of those crying "missile defense does not work", sorry but you are wrong. It does work.

Great post. So what about the deployment of GM before tested accusation?
 
What I see is a lot of people only looking at a single system, and all seem to have some kind of agenda they are trying to push.

Myself, I have worked hands-on with 2 of those systems, and talked with people involved in the others.

One of the beautiful things about my time at the White Sands Missile Range, is that I talked with people involved in both the SM-2/3 system, as well as those developing AEGIS Ashore. I have also seen a lot of test video and reports on them and their capabilities. It really is impressive. The only recent failure in SM-3 was a human error. The technician during a live fire accidentally designated the target missile after launch from target to friendly, so the interceptor self-destructed. That is what it was designed to do. Human error, not system fail (and in fact it also ended up testing an intended part of the system, that it self-destruct before hitting a friendly). So even that fail was a win, for being an unintentional test of a different part of the system.

Thank you for this post also. I am just an armchair general.

From:
The Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense (BMD) System

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Although the Aegis Combat System has undergone development since the 1970’s, it did not begin testing against ballistic missile targets until the U.S. withdrawal of the Anti Ballistic Missile Treaty in 2002. Since then, Aegis has achieved 35 successful intercepts out of 42 attempts using a Standard Missile-3. The Missile Defense Agency and the Navy have also conducted terminal phase ballistic missile intercepts using a modified SM-2 Block IV on four occasions, and an SM-6 on two.
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The terminal phase is what the other articles I posted were about.
Any idea of how close they would have to be to shoot down a NK ICBM in the pre-terminal phase? Probably secret.
 
Flawed American Missile defense system vs. NK ICBM? I'll take the flawed American defense system winning out. The few times it's failed in the field has been coding mistakes dealing with the clock rather than the math involved shooting something out of the sky. Let me put it this way, if our rocket scientists can stick a rover on Mars, they can shoot whatever NK sends our way out of the sky.

I'd be a bit more worried about Russian Missiles, however. But that's a concern over volume, not accuracy.

My big worry is South Korean cities taking heavy damage and casualties. It's literally the only thing, in my opinion, that is saving NK from an ass whupping that has been owed to them for many a year. China will scoff and bitch, but they rely to heavily on our trade at this point to break ties or retaliate.
 

I note from that article it is talking about the system in question I've been talking about:

By year’s end, the U.S. will have deployed 44 ground-based interceptors, or GBIs: 40 at Fort Greeley, Alaska, and four at Vandenberg Air Force Base, California.

I asked previously how close an AEGIS would have to be to NK to shoot an ICBM down in its initial phase.
That we haven't shot down their test missiles is indicative.
 
Great post. So what about the deployment of GM before tested accusation?

Deployed how?

It was originally constructed for test purposes in Alaska and California. And it is still operational in... Alaska and California.

It has not been "deployed", it is still functioning in the exact same 2 test sites. It has just been cleared for real world use if needed.

Thank you for this post also.

The terminal phase is what the other articles I posted were about.
Any idea of how close they would have to be to shoot down a NK ICBM in the pre-terminal phase? Probably secret.

Well, the newest ones have an unclassified range of 1,300 miles, and the ship launching it has to have a clear line of sight of the target in order to fire.

So feel free to do the math. But generally, pretty much anything within the visual horizon of the launching ship, taking in consideration flight time between flight time and acquisition.

This is when talking about such intercepts, we talk about things like flight path in relation to the interceptor.

I asked previously how close an AEGIS would have to be to NK to shoot an ICBM down in its initial phase.
That we haven't shot down their test missiles is indicative.

It does not have to be close to North Korea at all. It simply has to be close to the flight path of the missile.

Initial Phase is a no-go, so forget about that. I do not think there is a system in the world that can shoot down a missile in that phase unless it is almost literally sitting right on top of the thing (say a missile launched from Vandenberg, and an interceptor sitting right off the cost a few dozen miles away).

All of our systems are designed to intercept much later in the flight, mid phase or terminal phase. It is almost impossible in all but a small handfull of cases to put interceptors close enough to target during boost phase. Most launch sites are simply to far inland.

Might as well ask what Russia can do to stop a missile in it's boost phase being launched from North Dakota. Nothing.
 
How much money is the right amount to spend on preventing something that has almost no chance of happening? And if it does happen, and there are thousands of inbound warheads, it won't matter. Most will get through.

My opinion, focus on undermining rogue states pursuing nuclear weapons programs. Russia or China are not going to launch on the US. Realistically there is no reason for them to even consider doing so. The most realistic nuclear "threat" will come from the likes of North Korea, Iran, etc. If the threat becomes real, then the U.S. (and/or our allies, as many as we have left) should intervene and disable their programs - kinetically. More focus should be placed on cyber attack/defense capabilities and tracking the location of nuclear capable missile platforms (ICBM, MRBM, etc.). Disrupting targeting and guidance systems has more chance of preventing a strike than shooting down MIRV's after they have deployed.
 
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How much money is the right amount to spend on preventing something that has almost no chance of happening? And if it does happen, and there are thousands of inbound warheads, it won't matter. Most will get through.

Uh-huh. Nobody has ever fired ballistic missiles at us before.

Tracking the location of platforms. Uhhh, they are already known, except for submarines. How do you propose to do that?

Disrupting targeting and guidance systems, right.

You are aware that they are primarily guided through internal inertial navigation, are you not? In other words, they guide themselves, and only use things like GPS to make final corrections in the final terminal phase. You are aware of this, right?

You can turn off every single GPS bird and shut off every single radio source, and a missile from Central Russia will still hit Las Vegas if that was the target. Only to within say 500 meters of it's actual target as opposed to the 50 CEP that modern missiles use.

And it has been this way since the 1960's, long before modern systems like GPS were developed.
 
Uh-huh. Nobody has ever fired ballistic missiles at us before.

Tracking the location of platforms. Uhhh, they are already known, except for submarines. How do you propose to do that?

Disrupting targeting and guidance systems, right.

You are aware that they are primarily guided through internal inertial navigation, are you not? In other words, they guide themselves, and only use things like GPS to make final corrections in the final terminal phase. You are aware of this, right?

You can turn off every single GPS bird and shut off every single radio source, and a missile from Central Russia will still hit Las Vegas if that was the target. Only to within say 500 meters of it's actual target as opposed to the 50 CEP that modern missiles use.

And it has been this way since the 1960's, long before modern systems like GPS were developed.

No need to be so salty, especially when it appears you didn't understand my statement. Let me help you out real quick so we don't have another misunderstanding. I said..."More focus should be placed on cyber attack/defense capabilities and tracking the location of nuclear capable missile platforms (ICBM, MRBM, etc.). Disrupting targeting and guidance systems has more chance of preventing a strike than shooting down MIRV's after they have deployed." It's clear by your condescending tone that you are an expert on missile systems and missile defense systems, I will try again and hope my thoughts on this rise to the level that won't compel you to respond like a jackass. I am talking about "Left of Launch" capability. Using cyber warfare to disrupt the enemies ability to target the weapon and launch it at us. Hence my comment about the folly of thinking we can shoot down MIRV's after they have deployed. With the heavy reliance on technology to configure weapons systems to travel long distances and strike a target accurately, cyber warfare has the most realistic chance of preventing a strike against the U.S. when compared to intercepting and shooting down an ICBM.

You do understand that, right? Uhhh...right? Expert.
 
No need to be so salty, especially when it appears you didn't understand my statement. Let me help you out real quick so we don't have another misunderstanding. I said..."More focus should be placed on cyber attack/defense capabilities and tracking the location of nuclear capable missile platforms (ICBM, MRBM, etc.). Disrupting targeting and guidance systems has more chance of preventing a strike than shooting down MIRV's after they have deployed." It's clear by your condescending tone that you are an expert on missile systems and missile defense systems, I will try again and hope my thoughts on this rise to the level that won't compel you to respond like a jackass. I am talking about "Left of Launch" capability. Using cyber warfare to disrupt the enemies ability to target the weapon and launch it at us. Hence my comment about the folly of thinking we can shoot down MIRV's after they have deployed. With the heavy reliance on technology to configure weapons systems to travel long distances and strike a target accurately, cyber warfare has the most realistic chance of preventing a strike against the U.S. when compared to intercepting and shooting down an ICBM.

You do understand that, right? Uhhh...right? Expert.

Actually, I am a professional when it comes to missile defense.

And how exactly would any of those ideas you have work? Cyber attack? These are closed systems, with no way to target them with a "cyber attack" except from the inside. What, do you think you can hack the targeting system on a submarine underway?

Disrupt the ability to target the missile? What? Once again, how is that going to be accomplished?

You are aware that there is really nothing to target there. It is literally following a pre-determined flight path, that is really nothing more than "go up then turn to this compass heading, then fly XXX many miles, then aim at the ground and when you are XX high detonate". These are not sophisticated computers, in fact they are barely computers as anybody would recognize today. Nothing to hack there, nothing.

There is a reason why the US, Russia, China, and other nuclear armed nations still use what is essentially 1960's era technology in their missiles. It is simple, it works, it is proof against almost any and all interference short of the destruction of the missile itself.

BTW, let me fill you in on 2 of my Military Occupation Specialties (I have had many).

Until 5 years ago, I was the operator and maintainer of the PATRIOT anti-missile system. Did so for 5 years, with combat deployments as well. And I also have crosstrained with THAAD.

My current MOS is IT Specialist. Where I have actively trained and operated with the Western Cyber Warfare Unit.

So yea, I am a professional in these matters. You keep insisting cyber warfare is the answer. Tell you what. I actually have a Commodore Pet 2001 in the back, what about I set that up. You then find anybody you want to try and hack into it. Good luck, it is actually of a newer and more advanced technology than that of our missiles. They really are ancient.

Like the Tomahawk. Even with all the fancy GPS and other systems we have put into it, it's primary guidance is still inertial navigation, double checked by it's nose camera comparing landmarks with still images pre-loaded into it's memory. Quite literally state of the art technology, 30+ years ago.

I do not think you have any idea what level of technology we are talking about here. It is not high tech, it is quite literally low tech. Extremely low tech. Used on purpose because it is effective and safe from outside interference.
 
Actually, I am a professional when it comes to missile defense.

....blah blah blah I'm smart you're dumb....blah blah blah

I do not think you have any idea what level of technology we are talking about here. It is not high tech, it is quite literally low tech. Extremely low tech. Used on purpose because it is effective and safe from outside interference.

For a missile defense professional I find it odd you've never heard of "Left of Launch." I think you should approach all of the defense industry folks and generals and admirals who oversee ballistic missile defense research and development and tell them they are wasting their time on this concept. You must share your vast knowledge with them! But I digress....

I never said anything about SLBM's, did I? I specifically called out North Korea and Iran, who have no sub-launched ballistic missile capability. Why do you insist on bringing that up? I was pretty clear about my position.

What I think is happening here is that you are "e-flexing" for the crowd. You know...."look at me tell this guy how it is, on the internet! RAWWWWRRR!" That's cool, you are the internet alpha male of missile defense discussions on Debate Politics, I bow to your "professional opinion."

Here is some light reading for you though, if you can find time in your busy schedule of dominating online discussions about missile defense. Knowledge is power, smart guy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/04/world/asia/left-of-launch-missile-defense.html
The public conversation about the new antimissile approach, known as “left of launch,” has been careful. Typically, military leaders and contractors have spoken vaguely about technologies and targets. But at moments they have also declared that it is all about North Korea and Iran, at least for now.

The idea is to strike an enemy missile before liftoff or during the first seconds of flight. The old approach waited until much later — after swarms of warheads had been released, had traveled thousands of miles and were racing toward targets at speeds in excess of four miles a second.

Officials have praised left-of-launch strikes as a novel way of knocking out enemy missiles at a tiny fraction of the usual cost. In presentations and congressional testimony, senior officials have described the method as a potentially revolutionary way to strengthen the defenses of the United States.

https://thediplomat.com/2017/03/left-of-launch-cyber-efforts-against-north-korea-a-good-idea/
The Obama administration determined, much as was the case with Iran’s nuclear program, that the risks of open military action to curtail North Korea’s ballistic missile projects outweighed the rewards. Instead, U.S. intelligence agencies undertook steps to disrupt the DPRK’s ballistic missile development through cyber-espionage. In particular, the article suggests, U.S. espionage sabotaged ballistic missiles in the construction and testing phase, leading to the failure of multiple North Korean missile tests, and presumably to major program setbacks.

Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance » Left of Launch
The United States certainly needs to invest, develop and enable acceptable policies to eventually deploy future “left of launch” technologies and systems to stay ahead of an outnumbering and proliferating threat. But in the real-world scenario, relying solely on “left of launch” capability for defense against ballistic missiles from nations such as North Korea or Iran is problematic, as it depends on the United States launching preemptive strikes on nuclear states such as North Korea, a possibly in the future Iran before that adversary had actually commenced an attack. The United States would then have to face the political and strategic consequences from first strike preemption, and the unpredictable response from the adversary state and its allies. Such an approach would likely not enhance regional or global stability.

Crazy, I know.
 
For a missile defense professional I find it odd you've never heard of "Left of Launch." I think you should approach all of the defense industry folks and generals and admirals who oversee ballistic missile defense research and development and tell them they are wasting their time on this concept. You must share your vast knowledge with them! But I digress....

Interesting that you seem to have left out one very interesting quote from that article. Allow me:

To be sure, The New York Times could not confirm the impact of U.S. sabotage efforts; building and testing ballistic missiles is tricky business, and accidents happen whether the U.S. has its thumb on the scales or no. Nevertheless, the use of cyber-espionage to disrupt the development of foreign ballistic missile systems, in particular, raises some difficult questions about nuclear deterrence.

In other words, this is primarily speculation. Nothing can be confirmed other than there was some attempt at sabotage. And they are not even sure where it was done, or if it did any good. And there are some other major differences between the capabilities of say North Korea (which is at most a minor threat), and Russia or China (which are major threats).

Like the US, Russia has a missile system that was primarily created in-house, with systems that were created by and for the missile system specifically. China has largely copied this model as well, having acquired various pieces of technology but having the resources and infrastructure to create their own system.

Also, much of this infrastructure is old, Decades old. It quite often predates the modern Internet, and even anything but the most basic networked computers (more closely resembling the mainframe-terminal configuration than what we know of today as a computer network).

Iran and North Korea however do not have that ability however. Their program is largely based upon COTS components that have been acquired and re-purposed to fit their needs. For example, Iran did not build their own centrifuges and control systems to enrich uranium. They bought them on the open market. Stuxnet in fact was rather interesting.

In order for it to work, it required a controlling system using Windows to be running, controlling automated machinery with a control language created by Siemens, and also working with control motors made by a company in Finland (and an identical clone motor made in Iran). This shows the amount of dependence these systems have on components not only from outside sources, but in how hard they worked to make even their home made components exact duplicates. So much so that they were vulnerable to code designed to infect only the original manufactured items.

If Iran had been dependent upon a single one of these major components made in-house, this would never have worked. But they could not do that, they were dependent upon imported technology, which left them vulnerable.

Now you can not go around switching up the topic here. Is it missile defense, or defense only against threats from Iran and North Korea? Because at the most, those are only a pimple on the butt of an elephant compared to the threat from Russia and China.

And neither of those nations would be open to compromise in anywhere near the same way.

And it is interesting to note, that although NK has had setbacks in the early days of both their warhead and missile tests, this was completely to be expected. And in many ways, they have progressed much faster than we did in developing the same technology.

Our own first men in space in fact flew aboard essentially modified nuclear missiles. NASA had such a bad run of designing and building rockets that they were not trusted. So they turned to the Army and the Redstone nuclear SRBM for the Mercury program.
 
Interesting that you seem to have left out one very interesting quote from that article. Allow me:



In other words, this is primarily speculation. Nothing can be confirmed other than there was some attempt at sabotage. And they are not even sure where it was done, or if it did any good. And there are some other major differences between the capabilities of say North Korea (which is at most a minor threat), and Russia or China (which are major threats).

Like the US, Russia has a missile system that was primarily created in-house, with systems that were created by and for the missile system specifically. China has largely copied this model as well, having acquired various pieces of technology but having the resources and infrastructure to create their own system.

Also, much of this infrastructure is old, Decades old. It quite often predates the modern Internet, and even anything but the most basic networked computers (more closely resembling the mainframe-terminal configuration than what we know of today as a computer network).

Iran and North Korea however do not have that ability however. Their program is largely based upon COTS components that have been acquired and re-purposed to fit their needs. For example, Iran did not build their own centrifuges and control systems to enrich uranium. They bought them on the open market. Stuxnet in fact was rather interesting.

In order for it to work, it required a controlling system using Windows to be running, controlling automated machinery with a control language created by Siemens, and also working with control motors made by a company in Finland (and an identical clone motor made in Iran). This shows the amount of dependence these systems have on components not only from outside sources, but in how hard they worked to make even their home made components exact duplicates. So much so that they were vulnerable to code designed to infect only the original manufactured items.

If Iran had been dependent upon a single one of these major components made in-house, this would never have worked. But they could not do that, they were dependent upon imported technology, which left them vulnerable.

Now you can not go around switching up the topic here. Is it missile defense, or defense only against threats from Iran and North Korea? Because at the most, those are only a pimple on the butt of an elephant compared to the threat from Russia and China.

And neither of those nations would be open to compromise in anywhere near the same way.

And it is interesting to note, that although NK has had setbacks in the early days of both their warhead and missile tests, this was completely to be expected. And in many ways, they have progressed much faster than we did in developing the same technology.

Our own first men in space in fact flew aboard essentially modified nuclear missiles. NASA had such a bad run of designing and building rockets that they were not trusted. So they turned to the Army and the Redstone nuclear SRBM for the Mercury program.

I was very clear in my first post, I was talking about rogue states who were developing nuclear programs, specifically Iran and North Korea, I changed up nothing. Try to keep up. The rest of your volume of text, which is simply your way of shielding yourself from criticism about not knowing what I was talking about, means nothing to me. I made my point. Quit being obtuse, Mr. Missile Experty.
 
I was very clear in my first post, I was talking about rogue states who were developing nuclear programs, specifically Iran and North Korea, I changed up nothing. Try to keep up. The rest of your volume of text, which is simply your way of shielding yourself from criticism about not knowing what I was talking about, means nothing to me. I made my point. Quit being obtuse, Mr. Missile Experty.

OK, back to rogue states then.

And then you are still wrong. We delayed the Iranian program a few years at most, and that only affected the enrichment program. It made no effect on the weapon program itself.

And do not think that there will be chances like this again in the future. Both Iran and North Korea have learned from Stuxnet.

I am being concise. Not simply throwing off a few lines and then strutting around claiming I won.

Buy yea, we know where their missile sites are. Missile sites are actually rather easy to track today, you can do it in your own home.
 
OK, back to rogue states then.

And then you are still wrong. We delayed the Iranian program a few years at most, and that only affected the enrichment program. It made no effect on the weapon program itself.

And do not think that there will be chances like this again in the future. Both Iran and North Korea have learned from Stuxnet.

I am being concise. Not simply throwing off a few lines and then strutting around claiming I won.

Buy yea, we know where their missile sites are. Missile sites are actually rather easy to track today, you can do it in your own home.

Lol I wasn't out to win anything, I didn't challenge you. I offered my opinion on where I thought we should invest more money and research with regard to missile defense. Apparently there are many high ranking military officials and defense technology experts that share my opinion. Software programs can be compromised. It happens every day. Smart people find ways to breach secured networks and compromise them. Just because North Korea and Iran are using homegrown systems doesn't mean they are hack proof. Eventually they all get breached. It's just a matter of time. Which is why cyber warfare is so important. Cyber defense and offense warrant increased funding. Without a doubt this is the most dynamic battlefield we have ever engaged upon. If someone is smart enough to develop an almost full proof system, there are ten someones who will find a way to hack it, regardless of where the system is created or resides. There will be another "Stuxnet" scenario. It will probably look different, but it will happen. And we probably won't hear about it until it's been used and became obsolete.

Within the confines of this discussion, I believe rogue states are the most realistic threat for a nuclear strike against U.S. interests, and disrupting the enemies ability to target and launch ballistic missiles has more promise than shooting down MIRV's as they fall down on top of us. That's all I said.
 
It is easy to take an extreme side and say "no, it will never work" and "yes, of course it will be successful!", but the clear sobering truth is quite simple. An ICBM interception system is without question possible and can be perfected (numerous systems are in existence already) yet we are still leagues away from a 100% interception rate. As one searches through the multitudes of articles and information accessible online many mixed results are due to appear. For a successful system of such proportion to exist, it will be necessary to allocate gargantuan amounts of capital to just one section of the national defense budget for a most definitely prolonged sphere of time. Certain systems today have a 30-40% chance of success and if enough interceptors are fired the missile will surely be intercepted. Once again, even with a advanced system in place it is impossible to intercept a multitude of nuclear warheads. President Trump is without doubt correct on his assertion that a system can intercept nuclear ICBM's, his only mistake is that he will see such a successful system in his lifetime.
 
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