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Russia's Zapad 2017

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What You Need to Know About Russia’s Big Wargame on NATO’s Doorstep

Here’s what NATO and the region is watching for this year — and why.....

By Ben Watson
September 11, 2017

For weeks, Russia and Belarus have been preparing for Zapad 2017. Zapad is Moscow’s recurring Cold War-era wargame designed to show the world Russia can outmatch NATO. Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs calls the drills “exceptionally defensive” in nature. Zapad involves fictional battles played out across western Russia, Belarus and Kaliningrad. “So not far from many NATO members on the eastern flank, like Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Poland,” said Lauren Speranza, associate director of the Transatlantic Security Initiative at the Atlantic Council in Washington. ”It could be the largest exercise since the end of the Cold War.”

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Moscow claims that only 17,500 Russian/Belarusian troops will participate in the joint Zapad (West) 2017 military exercise. However, certain logistic facts say otherwise. Russia has prepared 10,000 railroad carriages for the exercise which suggests a total force of ~100,000 troops. Naturally the neighbors - Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia are nervous and rightfully so. Even president Lukashenko of Belarus is nervous. Zapad 2017 could be one giant Kremlin Trojan Horse and Moscow has been unhappy with Lukashenko ... for initiating closer relations with the EU and denying Moscow permission to construct a Russian air base on Belarus soil.


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So what?

We hold games every year that they watch, they hold games every year that we watch. Who cares?

I for one am damned tired of spilling American blood for Atropian oil.
 
Oozlefinch said:
So what?

We hold games every year that they watch, they hold games every year that we watch. Who cares?

I for one am damned tired of spilling American blood for Atropian oil.
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Neither me nor anyone else on this page asked for American blood to be shed for anything.

It was a newsworthy event for the sheer size and scope. Russia's largest military exercise since WWII.
 
NATO is watching this because it helps their fear-mongering propaganda mission. That justifies their bureaucratic existence.
 
At least 100,000 Russian troops are participating in the Zapad 17 military exercise in Belarus, Kaliningrad, and western Russia fronting Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland.

Moscow and NATO have a treaty that says if a military exercise encompasses more than 13,000 troops, then advisers from the other side must be allowed to closely observe.

Here, the Kremlin says that although 100,000 troops in-toto may be involved, there are only 13,000 soldiers involved in many 'mini-exercises' ... so NATO officers are not allowed to observe the gigantic Zapad 17 exercise.

It is deceptions and lies like this that have contributed to turning the West against the expansionist Putin regime.
 
Thoreau72 said:
NATO is watching this because it helps their fear-mongering propaganda mission. That justifies their bureaucratic existence.
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Hard to believe anything COULD justify their existence. When the rubber meets the road, all too often they're off in the weeds stumbling around.
 
Rogue Valley said:
At least 100,000 Russian troops are participating in the Zapad 17 military exercise in Belarus, Kaliningrad, and western Russia fronting Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland.

Moscow and NATO have a treaty that says if a military exercise encompasses more than 13,000 troops, then advisers from the other side must be allowed to closely observe.

Here, the Kremlin says that although 100,000 troops in-toto may be involved, there are only 13,000 soldiers involved in many 'mini-exercises' ... so NATO officers are not allowed to observe the gigantic Zapad 17 exercise.

It is deceptions and lies like this that have contributed to turning the West against the expansionist Putin regime.
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It's always sad to have to watch grown men cry....
 
Oozlefinch said:
So what?

We hold games every year that they watch, they hold games every year that we watch. Who cares?
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These exercises are routine and to be expected for sure, but they should still be watched carefully to determine what changes, if any, have been made in Russian military doctrine and strategy. Zapad itself has a history of being rather informative, especially the one in 2009.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
These exercises are routine and to be expected for sure, but they should still be watched carefully to determine what changes, if any, have been made in Russian military doctrine and strategy. Zapad itself has a history of being rather informative, especially the one in 2009.
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The Russians seem to have improved some upon logistics and coordinated movements. They still favor heavy artillery/GRAD saturation. Ukraine teaches us that they are excellent in cyber disruption, SIGINT, and jamming. I'm sure NATO will monitor/analyze Zapad 17 very intently.
 
Rogue Valley said:
It's sadder yet to watch grown men always jump headfirst into CT....
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If the truth could be known, humans conspire as often as they have sex, is my bet. Conspiracy amongst humans is very ordinary.

This has nothing at all to do with conspiracy, so I reckon you bring it up because you're desperate?
 
Rogue Valley said:
The Russians seem to have improved some upon logistics and coordinated movements. They still favor heavy artillery/GRAD saturation. Ukraine teaches us that they are excellent in cyber disruption, SIGINT, and jamming. I'm sure NATO will monitor/analyze Zapad 17 very intently.
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Their tactical battalion groupings were used to great effect in Ukraine despite most of them being ad hoc formations. I'm sure the Russians will be tinkering with them more and more to see how they do.
 
Rogue Valley said:
What You Need to Know About Russia’s Big Wargame on NATO’s Doorstep

Here’s what NATO and the region is watching for this year — and why.....



Moscow claims that only 17,500 Russian/Belarusian troops will participate in the joint Zapad (West) 2017 military exercise. However, certain logistic facts say otherwise. Russia has prepared 10,000 railroad carriages for the exercise which suggests a total force of ~100,000 troops. Naturally the neighbors - Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia are nervous and rightfully so. Even president Lukashenko of Belarus is nervous. Zapad 2017 could be one giant Kremlin Trojan Horse and Moscow has been unhappy with Lukashenko ... for initiating closer relations with the EU and denying Moscow permission to construct a Russian air base on Belarus soil.


Related: Viejšnoryja — The Land of Free Belarusians

A Giant Russian Exercise Will Soon Put 100,000 Troops on NATO’s Border. Then What?

Russia Has 100K Troops On the Move. Here’s Why NATO Can’t Do the Same

Russia’s Zapad-17 Has Already Succeeded
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LOOk like has Viejšnoryja won totally , LOL
the statistic:

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Rogue Valley said:
What You Need to Know About Russia’s Big Wargame on NATO’s Doorstep

Here’s what NATO and the region is watching for this year — and why.....



Moscow claims that only 17,500 Russian/Belarusian troops will participate in the joint Zapad (West) 2017 military exercise. However, certain logistic facts say otherwise. Russia has prepared 10,000 railroad carriages for the exercise which suggests a total force of ~100,000 troops. Naturally the neighbors - Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia are nervous and rightfully so. Even president Lukashenko of Belarus is nervous. Zapad 2017 could be one giant Kremlin Trojan Horse and Moscow has been unhappy with Lukashenko ... for initiating closer relations with the EU and denying Moscow permission to construct a Russian air base on Belarus soil.


Related: Viejšnoryja — The Land of Free Belarusians

A Giant Russian Exercise Will Soon Put 100,000 Troops on NATO’s Border. Then What?

Russia Has 100K Troops On the Move. Here’s Why NATO Can’t Do the Same

Russia’s Zapad-17 Has Already Succeeded
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how many Mongolian troops came to Belarus finally? 5 000?

ps
Juchi are such bums ....LOL

Russian Ka 52 Helicopter Fired Rockets to Journalists by mistake at West in 2017 Exercises
 
Thoreau72 said:
NATO is watching this because it helps their fear-mongering propaganda mission. That justifies their bureaucratic existence.
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you are the only one here who is on putler´s propaganda mission here...
 
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