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Do You Have A Plan For Nuclear War?

beerftw said:
Natural selection will kick in fast when ipads don't work and people can't google how to survive without electricity.
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Yup. Would be a good thing to be on friendly terms with a prepper, if you can find him, he may already be out in the woods.
 
eohrnberger said:
Yup. Would be a good thing to be on friendly terms with a prepper, if you can find him, he may already be out in the woods.
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Far too many don't even know the definition of "prepper."

A huge number of younger folk actually don't realize that they will be unable to text for a pizza delivery in a nuclear war.

All they know about guns is you hold it sideways and shoot hundreds of times without reloading.
 
Vox said:
Far too many don't even know the definition of "prepper."

A huge number of younger folk actually don't realize that they will be unable to text for a pizza delivery in a nuclear war.

All they know about guns is you hold it sideways and shoot hundreds of times without reloading.
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LOLz. About right, that. Should it eve come to pass, there's be many severely disappointed.
 
Vox said:
Please share what you will do if the lights go out for weeks or months.....will you survive if it comes in winter?
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I did, until the early 1990's.

However, with the collapse of the USSR and the change in the world, it has since migrated into a general plan to survive any major event.

Nuclear war, supervolcano, pandemic, the plan has now evolved into covering any major cataclysm that can impact living. This first became a serious plan after the 1994 earthquake forced me to evacuate from my home for a week, and has al covered the multiple hurricanes I have gone through since then.

In short, it includes firearm(s), a camping trailer, and enough food, water storage, and supplies to last my family for at least 30-90 days. As well as fishing and hunting supplies, and general locations on where to evacuate to in such an event.

But the insane "prepping" that most people do I find rather silly.

As far as EMP, I do not take that seriously. It is both probably the easiest thing to protect against, as well as something impossible to protect against (unless you are willing to revert to a vehicle built prior to the mid-1970's). It is also not as big of a threat as most people try to make it out to be.

Of all the potential threats, supervolcano and pandemics (both historically overdue) are what I see as the biggest threats.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
I doubt it. A fullout nuclear strike would cause such catastrophic damage that any efforts towards continuing to make war would be outstripped by the much bigger problem of all of our cities being gigantic radiated craters.
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You should read up on cold war doctrine, for example the us govt has plans to collect taxes following a nuclear holocaust, you need to keep in mind these doctrines were made during the cold war by both the united states and the soviet union by people who thought a nuclear war was winnable, to the extent they even have war plans in place to continue a war after a nuclear strike.
 
beerftw said:
You should read up on cold war doctrine, for example the us govt has plans to collect taxes following a nuclear holocaust, you need to keep in mind these doctrines were made during the cold war by both the united states and the soviet union by people who thought a nuclear war was winnable, to the extent they even have war plans in place to continue a war after a nuclear strike.
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It also depends on the kind of war. All-out exchange by both sides, or a more limited exchange.

In a limited exchange, odds are most of the governments would remain intact and in place, only a handful of sites struck. These were also made earlier during the era, when the primary attacks would come from bombers. But by the second half, ICBMs made bombers largely obsolete, and the odds of an exchange being measured decreased rapidly.
 
Stupid people don't realize the Earth has more power in one bomb to day then 1000 nukes used on Japan.
 
My plan?

To die quickly.

So, if I have warning of an attack...I will jump in my car and drive as fast as I can to the center of the largest city I can find, crank up the Pearl Jam and wait to be incinerated instantly.
 
eohrnberger said:
I read at one time that a single EMP air burst over the center of the continental US would bring down not only everything digital, but also everything electrical, from generation facilities to long distance transmission as well as the local transformer at the end of your neighborhood.

Basically, the US, and its entire population, would go back to the late 1800's. Life would instantly become just as hard, and just as short. There will be some that may adapt to that life, but there will certainly be many, many more that won't be able to, and will just die off, unable to cope.

Building everything back up to present levels, replacing all the damaged electrical equipment and distribution, would probably take at least a lifetime or two, perhaps more. The lost population, probably even longer.

But then again, I think that NK would be a smoldering radioactive cinder in exchange, and they know it, so I don't think that the chances are very high that they'll do it, nor that they have the means to deliver such a weapon; at least not yet. The same could be said for Iran, at this point in time.
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Nonsense at least from an attack by the North Koreans as meg tons nukes had been set off in tests done in the 60s in orbit and the results was some Traffic lights was knock out in Hawaii.

North Korea might be able to do mild harms to America with small fission bombs before we wiped them off the face of the earth but they are not going to have very very very large fusion bombs to either wipe out large cities or do a massive EMP attack.
 
Where does this nonsense about NK being able to launch an EMP attack come from is it just another example of clinkbait?

It would take either the US or Russia to be able to place a large enough fusion bomb in orbit to maybe do a large scale EMP attack.

As I and others had pointed out in this thread a meg ton plus bomb test in orbit cause some traffic lights to go out and alarms to go off in Hawaii by way of EMP and the NK are far from being able to even do that must harm.
 
BillRM said:
Where does this nonsense about NK being able to launch an EMP attack come from is it just another example of clinkbait?

It would take either the US or Russia to be able to place a large enough fusion bomb in orbit to maybe do a large scale EMP attack.

As I and others had pointed out in this thread a meg ton plus bomb test in orbit cause some traffic lights to go out and alarms to go off in Hawaii by way of EMP and the NK are far from being able to even do that must harm.
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I am not saying that I completely disagree with you that the threat of NJ is some what exaggerated but you do know in that test the bomb was set off almost 900 miles away from Hawaii and the EMP pulse was much greater then expected. Had it been set off directly over hawaii it would have done considerable more then cause traffic lights to go out.
 
Vox said:
Please share what you will do if the lights go out for weeks or months.....will you survive if it comes in winter?

The government does not want you to know the very real danger.

A North Korean Nuclear EMP Attack: The Threat America Downplays at Its Peril | The National Interest Blog
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It wouldn't take a nuclear war for our power to go out for months and months. Not even an EMP. A strategic well-orchestrated attack on our power grid by marksmen would do the same thing.

Millions would die, imo. Some from withdrawal symptoms from their cell phones.
 
Vox said:
Please share what you will do if the lights go out for weeks or months.....will you survive if it comes in winter?

The government does not want you to know the very real danger.





A North Korean Nuclear EMP Attack: The Threat America Downplays at Its Peril | The National Interest Blog
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I'm old enough that I don't really care. My fears of nuclear war ended in 1989...or 90, whenever it was when that damned wall came down. It gave me 25 years of happy days. I can live with that.
 
braindrain said:
I am not saying that I completely disagree with you that the threat of NJ is some what exaggerated but you do know in that test the bomb was set off almost 900 miles away from Hawaii and the EMP pulse was much greater then expected. Had it been set off directly over hawaii it would have done considerable more then cause traffic lights to go out.
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LOL it was over a megton fusion bomb not a small fission bomb that NK might get into orbit and even so there is no indication that bomb would had done large scale harm to the power grid even if set off directly over Hawaii.

Normal size solar flares for example put out far more emf then any NK bomb would likely achieve and the power networks are design to take such surges even while there are concerns if we do get hit with a 1859 Carrington size Event.

To sum up NK is a threat to world peace but not our power grids.
 
MaggieD said:
It wouldn't take a nuclear war for our power to go out for months and months. Not even an EMP. A strategic well-orchestrated attack on our power grid by marksmen would do the same thing.

Millions would die, imo. Some from withdrawal symptoms from their cell phones.
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LOL I was cut off from FPL for three months or so after Hurricane Andrew and got along fine with my two generators.

Even ended up with supplying some of my neighbors with a few kilowatts.

Footnote all gas stations now need to have back up power for their pumps in south florida since that time.

As far as knocking out our power grid by a few snipers the US airforce could not cut off the power for any length of time in NV during the Vietnam war
 
Vox said:
Please share what you will do if the lights go out for weeks or months.....will you survive if it comes in winter?

The government does not want you to know the very real danger.





A North Korean Nuclear EMP Attack: The Threat America Downplays at Its Peril | The National Interest Blog
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My plan is to endure the vaporization of my physical being.

Of course, my life plan at the age of 18 was to start college, get drafted, go to Viet Nam and die.

That didn't work out as planned.
 
BillRM said:
LOL I was cut off from FPL for three months or so after Hurricane Andrew and got along fine with my two generators.

Even ended up with supplying some of my neighbors with a few kilowatts.

Footnote all gas stations now need to have back up power for their pumps in south florida since that time.

As far as knocking out our power grid by a few snipers the US airforce could not cut off the power for any length of time in NV during the Vietnam war
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If you think most people have generators, you are wrong. I don't know anything about NVs power grid, but ours is vulnerable.
 
MaggieD said:
If you think most people have generators, you are wrong. I don't know anything about NVs power grid, but ours is vulnerable.
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Sure it is vulnerable if that idea make you happy and for months on end the sound of thousands of generations running could be hear all throughout south florida.

Oh there is even businesses selling auto standby natural gas power generators for your home so all you see is a brief flicker during power change over.

They tend to adv on TV during the hurricane season.

Nothing like a cat 5 hurricane hitting an area to teach the need for such planning and equipments.
 
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BillRM said:
Sure it is vulnerable if that idea make you happy and for months on end the sound of thousands of generations running could be hear all throughout south florida.

Oh there is even businesses selling auto standby natural gas power generators for your home so all you see is a brief flicker during power change over.

They tend to adv on TV during the hurricane season.

Nothing like a cat 5 hurricane hitting an area to teach the need for such planning and equipments.
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OMG! Just how many cat 5 hurricanes do you think hit the Midwest??
 
BillRm doesn't realize how many poor people can't afford to keep and maintain a generator.

He also doesn't realize that gas may not be available for the generators.

He also doesn't realize that cold weather may make some generators inoperable......whether natural gas or gasoline.

He also doesn't realize that technology has advanced since the Vietnam war of the middle of the last century.

He's apparently just typing whatever crosses his mind at any given moment.
 
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Vox said:
Do You Have A Plan For Nuclear War?
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MaggieD said:
OMG! Just how many cat 5 hurricanes do you think hit the Midwest??
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So the midwest never have severe weather events that shut down the local infrastructural such as wide spread blizzards with temperatures down into the zero Fahrenheit for prolong periods, a group of F5 tornados, floods, large scale wildfire and on and on.

Of course if you live in the midwest you would never never feel that having a generator and such equipment is called for as that area does not get cat 5 hurricanes after all.
 
Vox said:
BillRm doesn't realize how many poor people can't afford to keep and maintain a generator.

He also doesn't realize that gas may not be available for the generators.

He also doesn't realize that cold weather may make some generators inoperable......whether natural gas or gasoline.

He also doesn't realize that technology has advanced since the Vietnam war of the middle of the last century.

He's apparently just typing whatever crosses his mind at any given moment.
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Strange claims that I do not know the problems that face people in disasters areas!!!!!!!

Love the idea that I never face the problem of finding gas to run my generators for example and no phone communication and no fire or police protection.

Amazing how people in such situation bond together to face such problems.

Some of my neighbors took part in arm as in shotguns arm patrols of our ruin homes.

Never before or since saw so many openly arm people including for example the federal post office employees as obely
 
BillRM said:
So the midwest never have severe weather events that shut down the local infrastructural such as wide spread blizzards with temperatures down into the zero Fahrenheit for prolong periods, a group of F5 tornados, floods, large scale wildfire and on and on.

Of course if you live in the midwest you would never never feel that having a generator and such equipment is called for as that area does not get cat 5 hurricanes after all.
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Please do not presume others live as you do. Our "local infrastructure" is rarely shut down. Happens, of course. But not nearly often enough to make generators common place. Sorry.
 
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