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    Re: Marine KC-130 J Crash in Mississippi, Cause Investigation

    "Austin Jones, a local farmer, told The Military Times that he and his son saw the plane crash, and “it was smoking as it descended.”

    “It’s burning worse now than it was early in the afternoon,” said Jones to the military newspaper."


    KC-130 Military Plane Crash in Mississippi: 5 Fast Facts You Need toÂ*Know




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    Re: Marine KC-130 J Crash in Mississippi, Cause Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    Witness Andy Jones told the AP he saw the plane spiral into the ground.
    "Jones said he was working on his family's catfish farm just before 4 p.m. when he heard a boom and looked up to see the plane corkscrewing downward with one engine smoking.
    " 'You looked up and you saw the plane twirling around,' he said. 'It was spinning down.'
    "Jones said the plane hit the ground behind some trees in a soybean field, and by the time he and others reached the crash site, fires were burning too intensely to approach the wreckage. The force of the crash nearly flattened the plane, Jones said.
    " 'Beans are about waist-high, and there wasn't much sticking out above the beans,' he said."


    Military Plane Crash Kills 16 In Mississippi : The Two-Way : NPR





    Appearing with General James, Marshall L. Fisher, commissioner of the State Department of Public Safety, warned that the wreckage contained explosives. He cautioned people in the rural area not to touch any debris, both for safety’s sake, and because removal of it could be a crime.

    “There are items that are going to be recovered by teams on the ground; some of them may be unsafe,” he said. He later noted that “there are ordnance disposal teams in the area” who may be causing controlled explosions throughout the search.

    The KC-130 family, consisting of four-engine turboprops, is a variant of C-130 transport, a venerable mainstay of the United States military. The KC-130T is designed for aerial refueling of other aircraft but can also be used to carry people and gear."


    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/12/u...ane-crash.html
    A military plane crash was most likely from a mechanical failure, which is rare but does happen. I was in an army aviation unit, and I know they make every mechanic sigh on every bolt removed and installed, as well as the sergeant in charge of them and the warrant officer.

    This is because they are extremely expensive machines and a mechanical failure in air is catastrophic vs an engine failure on a ground vehicle like the ones I worked on. The investigation will look for seeing every part of paperwork and oversight was done correctly. When I was in 4id we had a connex filled with a helicopter's wreckage from years prior when it fell down in iraq, the investigation on it was technichally over, but it was there and sealed incase the investigation ever re opened, that is how serious they take investigations into aircraft.
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    Re: Marine KC-130 J Crash in Mississippi, Cause Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    Something probably happened first, then a chain of consequences. Something apparently caused the cockpit section to separate from the rest of the plane, still pretty high up.


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    That something was probably inspired by HE that was supposedly onboard.

    Two different debris fields from something that apparently happened in cruise at 20000 feet is not a mechanical issue IMO. At least one eye witness on the ground reported hearing some explosions.

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    Re: Marine KC-130 J Crash in Mississippi, Cause Investigation

    Derp.... Explosions cause mechanical issues.

    As opposed to pilot error, etc.
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    Re: Marine KC-130 J Crash in Mississippi, Cause Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    Derp.... Explosions cause mechanical issues.

    As opposed to pilot error, etc.

    Explosions on aircraft in flight cause more than "mechanical issues!"

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    Re: Marine KC-130 J Crash in Mississippi, Cause Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    That something was probably inspired by HE that was supposedly onboard.

    Two different debris fields from something that apparently happened in cruise at 20000 feet is not a mechanical issue IMO. At least one eye witness on the ground reported hearing some explosions.
    That's because you have basically zero understanding of explosives or airplanes. A fact you have demonstrated over and over in the CT section. It also helps that you are probably the single most gullible person I have ever encountered. So of course you think it couldn't just be mechanical failure or pilot error.
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    Re: Marine KC-130 J Crash in Mississippi, Cause Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexedgar View Post
    Explosions on aircraft in flight cause more than "mechanical issues!"
    Depends on the location, severity and aftermath of the explosion.
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    Re: Marine KC-130 J Crash in Mississippi, Cause Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton Lum View Post
    Such is empire.
    Googled this, no idea what it means, care to explain ? anybody ?


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    Re: Marine KC-130 J Crash in Mississippi, Cause Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by Cisero View Post
    Googled this, no idea what it means, care to explain ? anybody ?
    Seemed to me like a 'swizzle stick.' Just stirring the drink up good.

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    Re: Marine KC-130 J Crash in Mississippi, Cause Investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    Depends on the location, severity and aftermath of the explosion.
    Add to the equation that at 20k, the fuselage was probably pressurized, it wouldn't take a very large event to bring the flight down.

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