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If a US civil war breaks out, would ISIL and other Islamic Militants intervene?

Khaled Al Razi

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I was thinking about recently about this.
I hope no civil war takes place.
But I think it may happen in a European country due to Islamist presence.
Could Daesh take advantage of a hypothetical American civil war?
 
I was thinking about recently about this.
I hope no civil war takes place.
But I think it may happen in a European country due to Islamist presence.
Could Daesh take advantage of a hypothetical American civil war?

The islamists would certainly make it more interesting and in the EU possibly even be the trigger. But the break-line would be more about the elite having undermined legitimacy of the social order and legal system. In the US it might run between liberals and constitutionalists.
 
The islamists would certainly make it more interesting and in the EU possibly even be the trigger. But the break-line would be more about the elite having undermined legitimacy of the social order and legal system. In the US it might run between liberals and constitutionalists.

The left is all about coalitions

In a civil war I can see muslim jihadi's fighting side by side with the gay rights crowd even though they have nothing in common except hatrid for the conservatives
 
LOL its not going to happen.
 
The left is all about coalitions

In a civil war I can see muslim jihadi's fighting side by side with the gay rights crowd even though they have nothing in common except hatrid for the conservatives

What gives you the idea that socialism is about compromise?
 
LOL its not going to happen.
I said what if?
I know that it's very unlikely to happen.
My question is hypothetical.

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What gives you the idea that socialism is about compromise?

I didnt know that I have that idea

But there is nothing in islam that I know of that prohibits socialism
 
As most Islmaic militants primary goal is to remove American influence from the Middle East and prevent them from further interfering in Muslim affairs, I think they would welcome an American civil war but not necessarily get involved. At most they would probably do what they could to prolong and intensify the conflict, but that would probably involve something more along the lines of supplying arms and money to one side.
 
As most Islmaic militants primary goal is to remove American influence from the Middle East and prevent them from further interfering in Muslim affairs, I think they would welcome an American civil war but not necessarily get involved. At most they would probably do what they could to prolong and intensify the conflict, but that would probably involve something more along the lines of supplying arms and money to one side.

Some liberals claim that muslims want America out of the middle east

Tell us which muslim countries that applies to and I'll make a deal with you

No American troops or immigration to those countries and no immigration to America from those same countries
 
Tell us which muslim countries that applies to and I'll make a deal with you

No American troops or immigration to those countries and no immigration to America from those same countries

As of right now no country is solely under the control of Islamic terrorists, so it's not applicable.
 
As of right now no country is solely under the control of Islamic terrorists, so it's not applicable.

Most libs prefer to claim that the terrorists do no represent the majority of muslims

But here you concede that they do represent all muslims by demanding that America exit the middle east
 
Most libs prefer to claim that the terrorists do no represent the majority of muslims

But here you concede that they do represent all muslims by demanding that America exit the middle east

How do the terrorists represent the majority of Muslims?

The majority of Muslims reject terror in the name and specifically reject ISIS.
 
How do the terrorists represent the majority of Muslims?

The majority of Muslims reject terror in the name and specifically reject ISIS.

I was responding to someone else who wants the US out of muslim counries because the terrorists don't want us there

There are polls and surveys of muslim there and here that suggest many are sympathetic to the goals of the terrorists without putting an actual number on how many

But its enough to bother me
 
Most libs prefer to claim that the terrorists do no represent the majority of muslims

But here you concede that they do represent all muslims by demanding that America exit the middle east


That's not at all what I said, and I have no idea where you got that from.
 
The left is all about coalitions

In a civil war I can see muslim jihadi's fighting side by side with the gay rights crowd even though they have nothing in common except hatrid for the conservatives

Kind of like how Leftists here in the US will condemn Christians constantly for their opposition to abortion.

Then turn right around and march arm in arm with them when they oppose capitol punishment.

One thing consistent about the left, and that is that they are not consistent. Anybody can be their friend so long as they agree, but everybody is an enemy who opposes them.
 
I don't think it would happen. But as JoG said earlier, it would break along the divide between the people amongst themselves and the elites that divide and conquer. Most likely elitist institutions would remain neutral and sit on the sidelines/cozy up to the winning team.
 
I was thinking about recently about this.
I hope no civil war takes place.
But I think it may happen in a European country due to Islamist presence.
Could Daesh take advantage of a hypothetical American civil war?

We are nowhere even close to having a Civil War, even though our civil unrest is growing. And there is little chance an outside group like ISIS could really get involved, as it is almost entirely internal to our own politics (although it is possible that other Communist-Socialist-Marxist nations could get involved).

One thing about Civil Wars, is that the US is almost to large to have one anymore. We might have a revolution, but a civil war is highly unlikely. The closest we have to what could be geographical boundaries are the Red vs. Blue states.

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And when you look at a breakdown, the "Blue" is mostly the NE and the West Coast. This for example is one major reason why you are seeing the unrest primarily in larger cities in the blue regions. That is the only places they get such support, a protest like last week in Berkley where the politicians and law enforcement did almost nothing would have had a very different result if attempted in say Boise Idaho or Montgomery Alabama.

The main "group" we are seeing promoting the violence is "Antifa", essentially small groups of anarchists who essentially oppose anything that is not totalitarian Marxist. Why else would they show up at so many rallies where the only idea is promoting the First Amendment right of free speech?

No, they may think they want a Civil War, but they would not survive one. They are to small of a minority, and are actually alienating many who might support them if they were less radical. Most people simply do not understand radicals of any sort, and tend to separate themselves from such.
 
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