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Bomber pilot picked to be the Air Force Academy's commandant of cadets

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The new pick for the USAFA leader seems to be well qualified for the position

Bomber pilot picked to be the Air Force Academy's commandant of cadets

The Air Force has nominated Col. Kristin Goodwin to be the commandant of cadets at the Air Force Academy, officials confirmed to Air Force Times on Tuesday.

Goodwin, who is also nominated for appointment to the rank of brigadier general, has been serving as the senior military assistant to the secretary of the Air Force in Washington, D.C.

She previously led the 2nd Bomb Wing at Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana, becoming the wing's first female commander. Before that, she served as the vice commander of the 509th Bomb Wing at Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri.
(. . .)
Goodwin will succeed Brig. Gen. Stephen Williams at the academy. . . ., Goodwin has a wife and two children.

In the thread about the Navy promoting, a former SEAL commander, I read the following
I can tell you this from only reading the title however, the US Constitution gives Congress (the Senate specifically) the final word on promotions of all officers in all the uniformed services, most especially flag officers. The Navy doesn't want to get into a Constitutional pissing contest with Congress over this. It falls under the "Advice and Consent Clause" of the US Constitution, and Title 10 of the US Code.

Does anyone think we will see Senatorial opposition to Col. Goodwin's nomination as the next Commandant of the US Air Force Academy - on Biblical grounds?
 
Seems like a qualified appointment. I have no idea what the Bible has to do with this.
 
On Biblical grounds? I'm sorry if I missed something, but WTF does the Bible have to do with this?

Seems like a qualified appointment. I have no idea what the Bible has to do with this.

When I reply to comments posted here, I always make an effort to read every word. These two responses show that not everyone manages to make the same effort. For your and others edification, I here provide the words which explain why I mentioned the Bible in the OP. ". . .Goodwin has a wife and two children."
 
When I reply to comments posted here, I always make an effort to read every word. These two responses show that not everyone manages to make the same effort. For your and others edification, I here provide the words which explain why I mentioned the Bible in the OP. ". . .Goodwin has a wife and two children."

So ****ing what? Again, what does the Bible have to do with this? She is a highly qualified candidate that should be promoted and approved by the Senate.
 
So ****ing what? Again, what does the Bible have to do with this? She is a highly qualified candidate that should be promoted and approved by the Senate.

It seems some people who label themselves as Christian, have a bit of a problem with Col. Goodwin's nomination. Please note the quote marks around wife in the Life Site article, other sites also do the same.
Lesbian with ‘wife’ and two kids selected to lead U.S. Air Force Academy
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo., March 30, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) — An open lesbian has been chosen to be the next commandant of the U.S. Air Force Academy, according to a USAF Academy report and other media.

Col. Kristin Goodwin has a “wife” and two children. She will take charge of the USAF Academy pending approval by the U.S. Senate. If approved, she likely will assume her new position in May. That is usually a formality, but conservative opposition to her appointment might make it less so.

Air Force Academy alumnus and former Navy Chaplain Gordon James (“Chaps”) Klingenschmitt, a conservative activist, is urging concerned citizens to call their U.S. senators to oppose Goodwin’s nomination to lead the USAF cadets.

"Concerned citizens" like the wife of Alabama Judge Roy Moore and her Foundation for Moral Law are protesting Col. Goodwin's nomination
The Alabama-based Foundation for Moral Law released a letter from President Kayla Moore today opposing the appointment of a lesbian commandant for the U.S. Air Force Academy.

The Air Force has nominated Col. Kristin Goodwin to be the commandant of cadets at the Air Force Academy, according to Air Force Times.

"I oppose this nomination because Col. Goodwin does not set a proper moral example for youth," Mrs. Moore wrote in a letter to Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis. "The person responsible for the education of cadets at the academy is a role model and an exemplar of proper deportment and conduct."
 
When I reply to comments posted here, I always make an effort to read every word. These two responses show that not everyone manages to make the same effort. For your and others edification, I here provide the words which explain why I mentioned the Bible in the OP. ". . .Goodwin has a wife and two children."

You are failing to show the connection between the two things. Women and gays are promoted in the military all the time. There are many female and gay commissioned officers with commands throughout the military, all of whom were approved by the Senate. Why would the Senate deny this particular one on "Biblical grounds"?
 
this thread is designed to bring to the attention of everyone, that a woman [Col. Goodwin] has a wife and 2 kids, and OP is fishing for someone who will be a bigot, intolerant of her being gay.

so the OP is throwing out the bible.
 
this thread is designed to bring to the attention of everyone, that a woman [Col. Goodwin] has a wife and 2 kids, and OP is fishing for someone who will be a bigot, intolerant of her being gay.

so the OP is throwing out the bible.

I'm throwing out the Bible? How so? Yes, I wrote that there will be objections on the promotion of Col. Goodwin by some Congress critters. That is my opinion based upon the words and actions of several of those presently holding seats in Congress, in both the House and the Senate.

It is my opinion that those who oppose her appointment to lead the Air Force Academy will state their objections using one of two beliefs, perhaps both. The scripture which says homosexual behaviour is evil and should not be tolerated and/or that only male/female marriages have been accepted for thousands of years - which isn't true by the way.
 
I'm throwing out the Bible? How so? Yes, I wrote that there will be objections on the promotion of Col. Goodwin by some Congress critters. That is my opinion based upon the words and actions of several of those presently holding seats in Congress, in both the House and the Senate.

It is my opinion that those who oppose her appointment to lead the Air Force Academy will state their objections using one of two beliefs, perhaps both. The scripture which says homosexual behaviour is evil and should not be tolerated and/or that only male/female marriages have been accepted for thousands of years - which isn't true by the way.

well the first two posters didn't bite on what you were putting forth.

your first post of : Goodwin has a wife and two children had no affect them, so in the next posting you put it in red to make sure to draw attention to it, and they still didn't bite.

you are looking for a bigot to object to the "wife and two children" angle, so far you did not get anyone.
 
well the first two posters didn't bite on what you were putting forth.

your first post of : Goodwin has a wife and two children had no affect them, so in the next posting you put it in red to make sure to draw attention to it, and they still didn't bite.

you are looking for a bigot to object to the "wife and two children" angle, so far you did not get anyone.


WRONG! Not looking for a bigot on this topic, as I feel they have learned not to express their opinions as openly as they have in the past. I was hoping to prompt some of those who label themselves "conservative" to explain why I referenced the Bible being used as an excuse to oppose Col Goodwin's nomination. I provided a couple examples from the right-wing Christian media which stated that they will be petitioning their Congress reps to vote against her nomination.

Are you saying that there is not a single person in this forum who would support such actions?
 
WRONG! Not looking for a bigot on this topic, as I feel they have learned not to express their opinions as openly as they have in the past. I was hoping to prompt some of those who label themselves "conservative" to explain why I referenced the Bible being used as an excuse to oppose Col Goodwin's nomination. I provided a couple examples from the right-wing Christian media which stated that they will be petitioning their Congress reps to vote against her nomination.

Are you saying that there is not a single person in this forum who would support such actions?

no i am sure there are

if people wish to live their lives in the belief that homosexuality is evil and oppose it on every level, so be it.
 
The Bible condemns homosexuality so the woman should not be a General...

But in a strange twist it doesn't condemn incest. Strange. Very strange.


On the OP - the Col is seems qualified and deserving of the post and the promotion to general officer. Who she chooses to love is completely irrelevant.
 
On the OP - the Col is seems qualified and deserving of the post and the promotion to general officer. Who she chooses to love is completely irrelevant.

But... the Bible says that it is a sin.

But in a strange twist it doesn't condemn incest. Strange. Very strange.

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On Biblical grounds? I'm sorry if I missed something, but WTF does the Bible have to do with this?

Gotta make an issue out of Colonel Goodwin being a female.
 
WRONG! Not looking for a bigot on this topic, as I feel they have learned not to express their opinions as openly as they have in the past. I was hoping to prompt some of those who label themselves "conservative" to explain why I referenced the Bible being used as an excuse to oppose Col Goodwin's nomination. I provided a couple examples from the right-wing Christian media which stated that they will be petitioning their Congress reps to vote against her nomination.

Are you saying that there is not a single person in this forum who would support such actions?

Is Colonel Goodwin qualified because she's a good soldier, or because she's a gay female?
 
It seems some people who label themselves as Christian, have a bit of a problem with Col. Goodwin's nomination. Please note the quote marks around wife in the Life Site article, other sites also do the same.


"Concerned citizens" like the wife of Alabama Judge Roy Moore and her Foundation for Moral Law are protesting Col. Goodwin's nomination

The US Senate approves the promotion of lesbian and gay officers all the time. This will be no different. I guarantee you that we could collectively find some asshole somewhere in the US that would be against just about any topic we decided to pick at random. Many of them based on the Bible, or the Torah, or the Koran, or what they heard their potted plant tell them over breakfast. None of them, however, have anything to do with this USAF promotion of an obviously qualified officer. That includes the people you chose to bring up to me in the above post as if that would change the facts or my reaction to those facts.
 
The Bible condemns homosexuality so the woman should not be a General...
But in a strange twist it doesn't condemn incest. Strange. Very strange.


On the OP - the Col is seems qualified and deserving of the post and the promotion to general officer. Who she chooses to love is completely irrelevant.

I believe that passage translated from it's original Aramaic goes something like - Incest is best, put your sister to the test. It loses a bit of it's theological meaning in the translation, however.
 
It seems some people who label themselves as Christian, have a bit of a problem with Col. Goodwin's nomination. Please note the quote marks around wife in the Life Site article, other sites also do the same.


"Concerned citizens" like the wife of Alabama Judge Roy Moore and her Foundation for Moral Law are protesting Col. Goodwin's nomination

Thank you for finally putting things into perspective, I had missed the lesbian connection. Considering the religiously tinted scandal at the USAF 10 years ago or so, you might have a point about it being a controversial nomination.

I think that if she is properly qualified, she should get the job and the promotion. I do not consider her sexual orientation to be disqualifying.
 
I see no reason not to. Her qualifications seem up to par.
 
Unless she's being promoted for cosmetic reasons.

3,000 hours of flight time is 3,000 hours. So far all the comments I've heard of her from her former supervisors and subordinates are all good.
 
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