Is China battle ready?

Fledermaus said:

Why do you hate career NCOs?

Did one reject you at the recruiter's office?

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Gunny when this butter bar arrived in Honor Guard company of The Old Guard of the Army my SFC p/sgt and I hit it off like the brothers in arms we in fact were. Honor Guard Company (E) is the elite of the elite. SFC McGinnis had been there for years and everyone called him "the monk" which today suggests James Mattis although "mad dog" is precisely more like it for my guy too.

The monk as it turned out also had clout based on respect. Huge respect. I soon became company xo then c.o. Several years after I'd transitioned back to being the civilian I am I'd heard the monk had finally retired. They had to pry him out of the Army with a crowbar. Several years after that I happened upon monk again, this time in the Longworth House office building on Capitol Hill. Much to my delight. Turned out Monk had become a Capitol Police Officer. It was a great old time in a new setting for each he and I.

White House has the Secret Service and Congress has its own authorized and funded Capitol Police Force. Uniformed Capitol Police Officers serve to make and keep safe and secure everyone in the Congress from Senators to House Members to staff and visitors...the buildings and grounds and then some. Working there one appreciates 'em 100%. Capitol Police are another elite force so great for the monk and good for USA national security as the job and its duties have a unique responsibility, trust, competence, sensitivity.

Monk is one of the significant people of my life. And it's mutual. So it's highly unlikely you'd want to meet The Monk. Cause while monk is yet another retired NCO rightwingnut he's my retired NCO rightwingnut. You and youse over there just ain't that and youse all never could be it.

Tangmo said:

Gunny when this butter bar arrived in Honor Guard company of The Old Guard of the Army my SFC p/sgt and I hit it off like the brothers in arms we in fact were. Honor Guard Company (E) is the elite of the elite. SFC McGinnis had been there for years and everyone called him "the monk" which today suggests James Mattis although "mad dog" is precisely more like it for my guy too.

The monk as it turned out also had clout based on respect. Huge respect. I soon became company xo then c.o. Several years after I'd transitioned back to being the civilian I am I'd heard the monk had finally retired. They had to pry him out of the Army with a crowbar. Several years after that I happened upon monk again, this time in the Longworth House office building on Capitol Hill. Much to my delight. Turned out Monk had become a Capitol Police Officer. It was a great old time in a new setting for each he and I.

White House has the Secret Service and Congress has its own authorized and funded Capitol Police Force. Uniformed Capitol Police Officers serve to make and keep safe and secure everyone in the Congress from Senators to House Members to staff and visitors...the buildings and grounds and then some. Working there one appreciates 'em 100%. Capitol Police are another elite force so great for the monk and good for USA national security as the job and its duties have a unique responsibility, trust, competence, sensitivity.

Monk is one of the significant people of my life. And it's mutual. So it's highly unlikely you'd want to meet The Monk. Cause while monk is yet another retired NCO rightwingnut he's my retired NCO rightwingnut. You and youse over there just ain't that and youse all never could be it.

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And no answer as to why you hate career NCOS (and non career NCOs) to the point you would lie both blatantly and repeatedly about military history, the role of NCOs in the military and would repeatedly and blatantly libel said NCOs.

PS - I doubt anyone believes you.

CCP Dictators in Beijing won the Iraq War as they're drilling oil like gophers from Baghdad to Basra and over to Saudi Arabia. Never any problem from ISIL so somebody has made a huge deal for their peace and prosperity and it ain't the United States sad to say. The Boyz never fired a shot to get the lucrative deals either.

Taliban is still running around in Afghanistan although Al Qaeda has shifted over to the horn of Africa while Iran has a new BFF in Baghdad. Ayatollahs have an old BFF in Damascus who's propped up by another BFF in Moscow. Operation Desert Storm came and went but still there are both the desert and the storm. Same same for Operation Iraqi Freedom (20 March - May1, 2003).

American hostages in Tehran were finally rescued but only by the fated Iran-Contra deal and not by the U.S. Army. No one needs to say much of anything over the fact Saigon has been Ho Chi Minh City for several decades now. The canard of the rightwing that the politicians lost Vietnam is wholly discredited poop same as the rightwing are.

Fat man little boy Kim feared his uncle more than he feared the United States so he put an anti-aircraft gun to the uncle while btw going nuclear against the U.S. just to be sure of both. U.S. Marines meanwhile put it to Grenada and to Panama too en route to a bunch of decorations and medals that had already been ordered up.

The thread we're working on begs the question in respect of CCP Dictator-Tyrants in Beijing. Because no, China is not battle ready. One big reason CCP are hollering and not shooting is that this ain't the desert and it's not a storm. It won't ever be the desert but we do see the storm clouds already. Flying over the clouds is the USAF. Under the clouds is the USN on the seas. This one is radically different militarily and in the politics of it.

This is Air-Sea not Air-Land Gunny. And it's the Pacific right on over to the Indian Ocean and the Gulf. After four stupid and idiotic land war ****ups in Asia over 50 years I can say we're finally going to win one. We're going to win it in the air, on the sea and under it Gunny. Minimum boots on the ground only and certainly not on the Asia land mass to include the Indo-China peninsula. Vietnam is now our strategic partner Gunny so maybe we did do well in that one after all, but if so it would be a strategic win and not a military one.

The politicians of the past 50 years who have given us disaster after disaster are both completely discredited and gone. Their numbnuts generals are retired and silent, or gone. So are the NCOs that are the backbone of the U.S. military. The calcium deficient backbone. I ream youse guyz because you earned it.


Four of the seven JCS chairmen were Army. Two Navy, one USAF. However, the days of the Army dominating the U.S. military are past


General Henry H. Shelton hosted on 1 December 2000 a conference in the Pentagon for former Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Standing from left to right are: Gen. Colin L. Powell, USA (Ret); Gen. John W. Vessey, USA (Ret); Adm. Thomas H. Moorer, USN (Ret); Gen. Shelton, USA; Gen. David C. Jones, USAF (Ret); Adm. William J. Crowe, Jr., USN (Ret); and Gen. John M. Shalikashvili, USA (Ret).


Two of the past three chairman of the JCS are from the Navy (Admiral Mike Mullen) and USMC (presently General "Fighting Joe" Dunford). The Army guy in between 'em General Dempsey was a master strategist and a brilliant innovator so that's only to the good too. From 1970 to 1982 four of the five JCS chairmen were USAF (3) or USN as the U.S. military transformed to high tech warfare to include space, undersea, stealth weapons, radically new missiles both offensive and defensive and an all volunteer force. If Trump has a brain the next chairman will be of USAF or USN.

(The one thing you and I have in common Gunny is that each of us volunteered. The huge difference is however that I volunteered while there was conscription. You volunteered for your own reasons.)


It's Air-Sea Battle now Gunny and that's what it will be going forward in the 21st century. Good news for the good guys. Retired military career NCO lifers meanwhile are busy peddling their rightwing poop same as always. And some of the rightwing retired lifer NCOs believe dictatorship can be both benevolent and just peachy dandy.

Politically active retired career lifer NCOs are rightwingers through and through. And it's often merely a matter of being polite to call 'em rightwingers. Because the politically active retired NCOs are much further on the right than being merely rightwingers.

As I've noted several times at several threads and I reiterate here, Air-Land Warfare continues to me the mode in Europe and EurAsia where Nato continues to checkmate Russia. Nato we recall was founded in 1949 to checkmate Russia rolling its tanks across the plains of Europe to the Atlantic (similar to the way Hitler did).

The mode continues to be set of warfare in Europe and in the Pacific-East Asia-Indian Ocean respectively. In Europe where continental warfare is always the case it's Air-Land Battle. In the Pacific-Asia-Inda it's Air-Sea warfare which has characterized and defined war in that area of the world.

I reiterate the note I've made several times because there's always someone who doesn't get the word as I've stated it and who thinks they're picking up on something the kid has missed. So in this post I preclude it occurring yet again.

Battle ready? Perhaps.

Battle tested? I'm not thinking so. Which military engagements have they conducted?
Experience, especially in the Sargent role, is key, from my perspective. And this is where I think the Chinese military is lacking.

Oozlefinch said:

Wow, not sure where that comes from.

One thing he is known for is stamping out any "Inter-nationalist" movements. Albanians, Croats, Serbs, he wanted none of that. He wanted them to identify as Yugoslavians, not their ethnic components. Not unlike prior to the US Civil War people generally identified with their home state, and not with the US as a single entity. He himself was a Croat-Slovenian, yet he came down just as hard on any Croat Independence Movements as he did those of any other groups.

But please, give us some examples of groups he "oppressed" purely for ethnic reasons, and not because the specific groups he put down were planning revolution.

I will make mention right away however that the one group that has tended to play that "oppression" card over and over again for over a century are the Serbs. That seems to be the claim for every attack and atrocity they have done since before the First World War.

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It's a long suppressed fact revealed publicly only after his death that Josep Bronz aka Marshal Tito once fought against the Serbs during his only military experience which was as a grunt. Tito was a self-appointed Field Marshal and nothing but.


Josep Bronz the former locksmith aka Marshal Tito (1892-1980) of the former Yugoslavia

Not from a Mel Brooks movie either


Politically active retired career lifer NCO rightwingers make this too easy if youse really want to know...

In Yugoslavia 1944-1980, he [Tito] was responsible for massacring about 1.1 million victims (including 700,000 Croats, mostly civilians), and therefore he is 11th among the major mass-murderers in the known World history. In general, his role and effects in Balkans were very similar as these of J.V. Stalin in USSR and Russia. Therefore it was quite logical and predictable that after his death, Yugoslavia exploded in a very bloody regional war.

Josip Broz Tito made a lot of crimes: crimes of war and crimes against humanity such as mass murder, democide, genocide and ethnic cleansing. Also, he was under increasing pressure from nationalist forces within Yugoslavia, especially Croatian secessionists who threatened to break up the federation. Following their repression, Tito tightened control of intellectual life.

As soon as Tito came to power he moved into the royal palaces and villas and established a royal lifestyle for himself. Tito, even if communist, amassed or had built for himself a large collection of palaces, villas and lodges scattered throughout Yugoslavia. He had personal luxury yachts like the internationally famous "Galeb". The hunting parties were one of Tito's favorite pastimes, and often included his inner circle of party and government officials as well as foreign guests.

After Tito's death in 1980, tensions between the Yugoslav republics emerged and in 1991 the country disintegrated and went into a series of wars and unrest that lasted the rest of the decade and continue to impact most of the former Yugoslav republics. He remains a very controversial figure in the Balkans.

https://toppublicenemies.blogspot.ca/2015/12/top-25-mass-murderers-in-history.html


A dictator is a dictator is a dictator. A so-called benevolent tyrant dictator is always and forever a tyrant dictator.

It is also the case that there's no masking a dictator as anything but a dictator. Which calls into serious question the nature, purpose, designs and goals of those who try to promote dictators while simultaneously defending those who are in fact tyrants. Ignorance is the only possible explanation. Unless one has fascist tendencies or partakes in fascist beliefs.

A free and open discourse is the best way to find the truth in these vital matters.

Moreover, all of the dictator tyrant promotion and hero worship has zero to do with the American Civil War. And nothing to do with the fact that under the Constitution the state is the basic unit of government of the United States. The states created the federal government in a Constitutional convention in 1789 and the states can undo it in a Constitutional convention if they ever might decide to do so (highly improbable if not completely unrealistic). The civil war was between the states the outcome of which was that the states of the Union prevailed. No dictatorship ever presented itself.

Marshal Josep Bronz Tito was a mass murderer. Generalissimo (G-MO) Francisco Franco in Spain was a full-blooded fascist dictator tyrant. Anyone who says otherwise is either grossly ignorant or he makes himself severely suspect. In either event, we are looking at a particular individual retired military lifer NCO who is politically active.

Fledermaus said:

And no answer as to why you hate career NCOS (and non career NCOs) to the point you would lie both blatantly and repeatedly about military history, the role of NCOs in the military and would repeatedly and blatantly libel said NCOs.

PS - I doubt anyone believes you.

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You're missing and thus mischaracterizing the whole thing Gunny.

It's just completely beyond you.

No clue.

All ceremonial units of the armed services in the Military District of Washington (DC) are, well, units of the U.S. military as much as any other military units and personnel of the United States, wherever we are and whatever we do. That you haven't any clue about the Military District of Washington is your burden. Still, you make your burden your own particular cross to bear. Your own hell. Gunny.

Politically active retired military lifer NCOs who are rightwingers besides are like that. The politically active ones.

Officers NCOs and EP of The Old Guard of the Army at Ft. Meyer next to the Pentagon are the 3rd Infantry Regiment (Reinf) unattached. Marines in the ceremonial unit of the Washington Marine Barracks at 8th and I Streets SE are Marines. Likewise for the USN Washington Honor Guard, USAF Honor Guard, Coast Guard Honor Guard.

You know **** about it.

Tangmo said:

You're missing and thus mischaracterizing the whole thing Gunny.

It's just completely beyond you.

No clue.

All ceremonial units of the armed services in the Military District of Washington (DC) are, well, units of the U.S. military as much as any other military units and personnel of the United States, wherever we are and whatever we do. That you haven't any clue about the Military District of Washington is your burden. Still, you make your burden your own particular cross to bear. Your own hell. Gunny.

Politically active retired military lifer NCOs who are rightwingers besides are like that. The politically active ones.

Officers NCOs and EP of The Old Guard of the Army at Ft. Meyer next to the Pentagon are the 3rd Infantry Regiment (Reinf) unattached. Marines in the ceremonial unit of the Washington Marine Barracks at 8th and I Streets SE are Marines. Likewise for the USN Washington Honor Guard, USAF Honor Guard, Coast Guard Honor Guard.

You know **** about it.

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I will sum up what you have posted that indicates you actually served:

Military history: _________________________

Military protocol: _________________________

Responsibilities of an NCO in strategic matters: _________________________________

Knowledge of what senior NCOs do and don't know about warfighting :______________________

Knowledge or military honorifics: _____________________________

Knowledge of Air-Sea combat beyond regurgitating talking points: _____________________________

Knowledge of naval matters beyond regurgitating talking points: _____________________________

Knowledge of naval ships beyond regurgitating talking points: _____________________________

Knowledge of difference between military victory and political ****-ups: ____________________________



Looks like you are batting .000 so far.

What kind of military officer can't understand the difference between military victory and military defeat?

Tangmo said:

CCP Dictators in Beijing won the Iraq War as they're drilling oil like gophers from Baghdad to Basra and over to Saudi Arabia. Never any problem from ISIL so somebody has made a huge deal for their peace and prosperity and it ain't the United States sad to say. The Boyz never fired a shot to get the lucrative deals either.

Taliban is still running around in Afghanistan although Al Qaeda has shifted over to the horn of Africa while Iran has a new BFF in Baghdad. Ayatollahs have an old BFF in Damascus who's propped up by another BFF in Moscow. Operation Desert Storm came and went but still there are both the desert and the storm. Same same for Operation Iraqi Freedom (20 March - May1, 2003).

American hostages in Tehran were finally rescued but only by the fated Iran-Contra deal and not by the U.S. Army. No one needs to say much of anything over the fact Saigon has been Ho Chi Minh City for several decades now. The canard of the rightwing that the politicians lost Vietnam is wholly discredited poop same as the rightwing are.

Fat man little boy Kim feared his uncle more than he feared the United States so he put an anti-aircraft gun to the uncle while btw going nuclear against the U.S. just to be sure of both. U.S. Marines meanwhile put it to Grenada and to Panama too en route to a bunch of decorations and medals that had already been ordered up.

The thread we're working on begs the question in respect of CCP Dictator-Tyrants in Beijing. Because no, China is not battle ready. One big reason CCP are hollering and not shooting is that this ain't the desert and it's not a storm. It won't ever be the desert but we do see the storm clouds already. Flying over the clouds is the USAF. Under the clouds is the USN on the seas. This one is radically different militarily and in the politics of it.

This is Air-Sea not Air-Land Gunny. And it's the Pacific right on over to the Indian Ocean and the Gulf. After four stupid and idiotic land war ****ups in Asia over 50 years I can say we're finally going to win one. We're going to win it in the air, on the sea and under it Gunny. Minimum boots on the ground only and certainly not on the Asia land mass to include the Indo-China peninsula. Vietnam is now our strategic partner Gunny so maybe we did do well in that one after all, but if so it would be a strategic win and not a military one.

The politicians of the past 50 years who have given us disaster after disaster are both completely discredited and gone. Their numbnuts generals are retired and silent, or gone. So are the NCOs that are the backbone of the U.S. military. The calcium deficient backbone. I ream youse guyz because you earned it.


Four of the seven JCS chairmen were Army. Two Navy, one USAF. However, the days of the Army dominating the U.S. military are past

General Henry H. Shelton hosted on 1 December 2000 a conference in the Pentagon for former Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Standing from left to right are: Gen. Colin L. Powell, USA (Ret); Gen. John W. Vessey, USA (Ret); Adm. Thomas H. Moorer, USN (Ret); Gen. Shelton, USA; Gen. David C. Jones, USAF (Ret); Adm. William J. Crowe, Jr., USN (Ret); and Gen. John M. Shalikashvili, USA (Ret).

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(The one thing you and I have in common Gunny is that each of us volunteered. The huge difference is however that I volunteered while there was conscription. You volunteered for your own reasons.)


It's Air-Sea Battle now Gunny and that's what it will be going forward in the 21st century. Good news for the good guys. Retired military career NCO lifers meanwhile are busy peddling their rightwing poop same as always. And some of the rightwing retired lifer NCOs believe dictatorship can be both benevolent and just peachy dandy.

Politically active retired career lifer NCOs are rightwingers through and through. And it's often merely a matter of being polite to call 'em rightwingers. Because the politically active retired NCOs are much further on the right than being merely rightwingers.

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More regurgitated prattle and inability to recognize military victory vs. political failure.....

A real officer would not make that mistake.

That and the usual ad hominems.

Fledermaus said:

I will sum up what you have posted that indicates you actually served:

Military history: _________________________

Military protocol: _________________________

Responsibilities of an NCO in strategic matters: _________________________________

Knowledge of what senior NCOs do and don't know about warfighting :______________________

Knowledge or military honorifics: _____________________________

Knowledge of Air-Sea combat beyond regurgitating talking points: _____________________________

Knowledge of naval matters beyond regurgitating talking points: _____________________________

Knowledge of naval ships beyond regurgitating talking points: _____________________________

Knowledge of difference between military victory and political ****-ups: ____________________________



Looks like you are batting .000 so far.

What kind of military officer can't understand the difference between military victory and military defeat?

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The issue is the rightwing lifer career NCO who is retired and running amok. The politically active ones. They hate when on the rare occasion their normally exclusive military expertise combined with their rightwing politics is challenged by citizen civilians with a military experience and expertise. Hate it.

Deny deny deny is what you do.

Gunny.

The thread btw is about China and battle ready. Wrecked another thread you did. No surprise given the record and history of mangling things.

Fledermaus said:

More regurgitated prattle and inability to recognize military victory vs. political failure.....

A real officer would not make that mistake.

That and the usual ad hominems.

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You are all ad hominem Gunny. And only.

You don't give a **** about China and battle ready. You are battle ready for one thing and one thing only and he's right here. Moi. There's no stopping you going at your enemy. As you misidentify your enemy.

I myself am ambiguous about replying to your posts because in doing so I'm only feeding the psycho beast.

So I reassert what I've stated at other threads at other times recently, i.e., that you are being individually provocative and that your baiting and troll posts are designed to get me thread banned so you can open or reactivate one of your ad hominem threads elsewhere.

Tangmo said:

The issue is the rightwing lifer career NCO who is retired and running amok. The politically active ones. They hate when on the rare occasion their normally exclusive military expertise combined with their rightwing politics is challenged by citizen civilians with a military experience and expertise. Hate it.

Deny deny deny is what you do.

Gunny.

The thread btw is about China and battle ready. Wrecked another thread you did. No surprise given the record and history of mangling things.

You are all ad hominem Gunny. And only.

You don't give a **** about China and battle ready. You are battle ready for one thing and one thing only and he's right here. Moi. There's no stopping you going at your enemy. As you misidentify your enemy.

I myself am ambiguous about replying to your posts because in doing so I'm only feeding the psycho beast.

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More nonsense....

So, Tangmo.have you retracted your libel upon hundreds of thousands of good, honest NCOs who served honorably?

No, of course not.....

You can go back to regurgitating your talking points....

Be sure to throw in "Youse" and "Boyz" a lot as that builds street cred..............

Fledermaus said:

More nonsense....

So, Tangmo.have you retracted your libel upon hundreds of thousands of good, honest NCOs who served honorably?

No, of course not.....

You can go back to regurgitating your talking points....

Be sure to throw in "Youse" and "Boyz" a lot as that builds street cred..............

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So Gunny my research assistant advises me you now have 27 posts in direct reply to me since your post #757 which was posted on April 26th at 06:32 a.m.

Last time my nose to the grindstone research assistant advised me of this very thing you'd had 72 consecutive direct replies to my posts. They too were your only posts. So I reckon we've got a while to go yet.

All the same Gunny, I'd think everyone has the ready awareness and recognition that you personally and a couple of other rightwinger retired NCO lifers are offended. As we say in the military, anyone with a personal problem needs to see the chaplain.

But alas, much too late now I fear.

Did I say you don't give a **** about China and battle ready? Yes I did say that cause it is true. It is fact Gunny.

Tangmo said:

So Gunny my research assistant advises me you now have 27 posts in direct reply to me since your post #757 which was posted on April 26th at 06:32 a.m.

Last time my nose to the grindstone research assistant advised me of this very thing you'd had 72 consecutive direct replies to my posts. They too were your only posts. So I reckon we've got a while to go yet.

All the same Gunny, I'd think everyone has the ready awareness and recognition that you personally and a couple of other rightwinger retired NCO lifers are offended. As we say in the military, anyone with a personal problem needs to see the chaplain.

But alas, much too late now I fear.

Did I say you don't give a **** about China and battle ready? Yes I did say that cause it is true. It is fact Gunny.

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:lamo



So you're in Manila right?

Tangmo said:

So Gunny my research assistant advises me you now have 27 posts in direct reply to me since your post #757 which was posted on April 26th at 06:32 a.m.

Last time my nose to the grindstone research assistant advised me of this very thing you'd had 72 consecutive direct replies to my posts. They too were your only posts. So I reckon we've got a while to go yet.

All the same Gunny, I'd think everyone has the ready awareness and recognition that you personally and a couple of other rightwinger retired NCO lifers are offended. As we say in the military, anyone with a personal problem needs to see the chaplain.

But alas, much too late now I fear.

Did I say you don't give a **** about China and battle ready? Yes I did say that cause it is true. It is fact Gunny.

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Now, now....

You wanted to get back to regurgitating.

Well, have at it.

You won't retract your libel?

I would wager that no one believes you served at this point.

Carry on with regurgitation. It is what you do.

BTW - Research assistant? Really? :lamo :lamo You have a research assistant monitor your posts? Right. Is your research assistant an immitation officer too?




BTW - You spoke of "being "individually provocative and that your baiting and troll posts" yet you have repeatedly libeled service members, prattled about Sun Tzu long after everyone realized you knew little about his writings, constantly insisted no wars were won since 1945, kept prattling about "right wing" , etc.....

Physician, heal thyself.

Youse guyz on the right crack me up.

All the same, since the retired won't go see the chaplain I'll ask the kind gentleman to visit you. It would be up to the chaplain whether to call for the men in the white coats. Or smocks.

Those who take offense fit the bill perfectly. Certainly as I describe the problem, i.e., the retired career lifer......hey youse guyz over there know the drill. For a long time know it.

Of course it's the case that not all rightwingnuts are also retired career lifer....etc. I think however there's a strong case for almost all retired lifer NCOs active in political affairs being rightwingnuts. Yes indeed, a very strong case.

It's a cost that can't be factored in the budget, i.e., the AVF is continually dominated by rightwingers. Very probably continuously. Once retired, those who get politically active during idle time finally let it all hang out politically. They start saying their whacked out stuff. In socio-cultural respects too. Last November they dropped their most effective carpet voting damage ever.

G-MO Franco would be proud (except he doesn't approve of voting).

Tangmo said:

Youse guyz on the right crack me up.

All the same, since the retired won't go see the chaplain I'll ask the kind gentleman to visit you. It would be up to the chaplain whether to call for the men in the white coats. Or smocks.

Those who take offense fit the bill perfectly. Certainly as I describe the problem, i.e., the retired career lifer......hey youse guyz over there know the drill. For a long time know it.

Of course it's the case that not all rightwingnuts are also retired career lifer....etc. I think however there's a strong case for almost all retired lifer NCOs active in political affairs being rightwingnuts. Yes indeed, a very strong case.

It's a cost that can't be factored in the budget, i.e., the AVF is continually dominated by rightwingers. Very probably continuously. Once retired, those who get politically active during idle time finally let it all hang out politically. They start saying their whacked out stuff. In socio-cultural respects too. Last November they dropped their most effective carpet voting damage ever.

G-MO Franco would be proud (except he doesn't approve of voting).

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You cried about trolling while you troll...

You should go back to doing what makes you look least lost about the military....

Regurgitating talking points you have scant understanding about

Fledermaus said:

Now, now....

You wanted to get back to regurgitating.

Well, have at it.

You won't retract your libel?

I would wager that no one believes you served at this point.

Carry on with regurgitation. It is what you do.

BTW - Research assistant? Really? :lamo :lamo You have a research assistant monitor your posts? Right. Is your research assistant an immitation officer too?




BTW - You spoke of "being "individually provocative and that your baiting and troll posts" yet you have repeatedly libeled service members, prattled about Sun Tzu long after everyone realized you knew little about his writings, constantly insisted no wars were won since 1945, kept prattling about "right wing" , etc.....

Physician, heal thyself.

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I see additionally that your being literal is a part of the problem over there. :2wave:

So anyway which izzit cause you're all over the place. Did I not serve at all, or did I serve but not as an ossifer? You lurch to and fro in your posts from one to the other, to include also your long reach of a wild notion I wuz thrown out of the EP recruiting office by a (dastardly) NCO.

All over the place you are.

Btw the post above is your 24th consecutive direct reply post to me since April 26th. Your only posts since then.

Obsess much?

Gunny.

Tangmo said:

I see additionally that your being literal is a part of the problem over there. :2wave:

So anyway which izzit cause you're all over the place. Did I not serve at all, or did I serve but not as an ossifer? You lurch to and fro in your posts from one to the other, to include also your long reach of a wild notion I wuz thrown out of the EP recruiting office by a (dastardly) NCO.

All over the place you are.

Btw the post above is your 24th consecutive direct reply post to me since April 26th. Your only posts since then.

Obsess much?

Gunny.

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I see your problem.

You talk **** and expect it to go unchallenged.

Now that you ask, I don't believe you even made it through ROTC.

No one could successfully get through ROTC much less 4 years of service and still be as uneducated about the military as you have been.

You MIGHT have had a friend or relative tell you a few sea stories. Which you tried to palm off here.

Just a wild guess.

Since no one with a military background would be stupid enough to claim we lost all wars since 1945 . Nor would any military member be stupid enough to lay the blame on NCOs.

Count this as 25 if you are so inclined. I responded to other members as well.

It is just that your posts contain so many historial and/or factual errors (not to mention ridiculous opinions) it is a veritable playground.

Tangmo said:

I see additionally that your being literal is a part of the problem over there.

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So...

Carry on regurgitating.

Fledermaus said:

You cried about trolling while you troll...

You should go back to doing what makes you look least lost about the military....

Regurgitating talking points you have scant understanding about

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Least lost about the military?

I'd already stated you haven't any clue about the Military District of Washington (DC). What it is. What it does. Who does it. How and why etc.

Everyone I've presented to you in my posts or in videos to include lots of still shots are regular military. The Old Guard of the Army is in fact the 3rd Infantry Regiment (Reinf) unattached (assigned to MDW since 1948). What is now the 3rd Infantry Regiment is the oldest infantry unit in the U.S. Army, organized in 1784.


Shoulder Sleeve Insignia Military District of Washington


MDW is responsible for the defense of the nation's capital by all components of the armed forces of the United States. MDW is always under the command of an Army 2-star.


At the end of World War II, the 3rd U.S. Infantry Regiment (The Old Guard) was deactivated in Germany. This regiment, the oldest U.S. infantry unit, was reactivated in 1948 and assigned to MDW to meet the command's tactical commitments and for military ceremonies.

The MDW commander has jurisdiction over forts McNair, Belvoir (which includes Fort A.P. Hill), Myer, Meade (which includes Fort Holabird), Ritchie and Hamilton.

MDW is the home of the Army's official ceremonial unit, the 3rd U.S. Infantry (The Old Guard) and the U.S. Army Band, "Pershing's Own," two units that represent the Army and the nation thousands of times each year. Both of these units are familiar sights in the nation's capital. They participate in ceremonies, including simple wreath ceremonies at the Tomb of the Unknowns, state funerals and official arrival ceremonies for visiting chiefs of state and other dignitaries.

The Army Band and The Old Guard produce two shows each year; "America's Army in Review" on the Washington Monument Grounds in the spring and the "Twilight Tattoo" at the Ellipse during the summer.

US Army Military District of Washington


Old Guard got its nick from Commanding General Winfield Scott in 1847 at the victory parade in Mexico City that concluded the Mexican-American War. Third Infantry Regiment had as an advance force impelled the surrender of Mexico by a successful bayonet charge only up Chapultepec Heights to seize the high ground commanding the City. A bayonet charge is hardly heroics however -- it's simply what you do when you run out of ammo but you're about to win the war. As the regiment reached the reviewing stand Gen. Scott turned to his staff and commanded, "Gentlemen, take off your hats, here comes The Old Guard."

Now it's many moons later so each February when its cold and business is slow 3rd Infantry Regiment goes to Fort A.P. Hill in central Virginia for exercises. Infantry exercises. In the mountains and forests. That infantry.