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In scrolling through a few threads i have come across comments that hint at hubris by america in any prediction of war between america and china. I have read comments that assume the chinese are poorly equipped or untested. Though when the chinese can call on nearly a billion foot soldiers i am not sure what test is required to pass in order to succeed at becoming cannon fodder.
For those who think china may not be prepared or capable of putting up a fight may be in for a surprise.
U.S. media: PLA Navy to top the world in 2020 - China Military Online
The U.S. Navy and PLA Navy will be in a position of rough numeric party, but the U.S. Navy will maintain a wide qualitative advantage, according to the report.

If current plans are carried through, some 60 percent of the total U.S. Navy force structure, or around 156 warships and submarines, will be assigned to the U.S. Pacific Fleet by 2020.

So, while the U.S. number includes more high-end ships, the total number of combatants the PLA Navy would have at its disposal for a defensive campaign in East Asia is significant. In this sort of defensive campaign (A2/AD) one must also consider the land based aircraft of PLA Navy and the PLA Air Force as well as the Strategic Rocket Force’s anti-ship ballistic missiles, according to the report.

America might just win such a war but then hillary might have also been a president. Things do not always go as planned.
 
In scrolling through a few threads i have come across comments that hint at hubris by america in any prediction of war between america and china. I have read comments that assume the chinese are poorly equipped or untested. Though when the chinese can call on nearly a billion foot soldiers i am not sure what test is required to pass in order to succeed at becoming cannon fodder.
For those who think china may not be prepared or capable of putting up a fight may be in for a surprise.
U.S. media: PLA Navy to top the world in 2020 - China Military Online


America might just win such a war but then hillary might have also been a president. Things do not always go as planned.

Our military infrastructure is so incompetently handled we couldn't possibly wage any war competently. In fact the only competent wars we've waged in the past 75 years were WW2, the Korean War, and the Gulf war. Every other circumstance has been a cluster**** handled by incompetent buffoons.
 
In scrolling through a few threads i have come across comments that hint at hubris by america in any prediction of war between america and china. I have read comments that assume the chinese are poorly equipped or untested. Though when the chinese can call on nearly a billion foot soldiers i am not sure what test is required to pass in order to succeed at becoming cannon fodder.
For those who think china may not be prepared or capable of putting up a fight may be in for a surprise.
U.S. media: PLA Navy to top the world in 2020 - China Military Online


America might just win such a war but then hillary might have also been a president. Things do not always go as planned.

Assuming nukes weren't involved (even if they were this remains true) China would be absolutely destroyed by America and it's allies.

No other country in the world can boast projective power of the United States, nor can they match its modern technology.
 
1 billion foot soldier's standing in the mainland is pretty much useless..

I would assume that any war with China would be over those little sandbar island in the China sea.. That would be a naval battle..

Our military infrastructure is so incompetently handled we couldn't possibly wage any war competently. In fact the only competent wars we've waged in the past 75 years were WW2, the Korean War, and the Gulf war. Every other circumstance has been a cluster**** handled by incompetent buffoons.

While this is very true.. I don't think China's navy can match up with ours. ( I guess it would all depend on how aggressive we were and who was in charge of the battle
They have a small fleet of Nuclear subs,, They are reportedly plagued with problems and also "noisy"
They have a large fleet of diesel/electric subs based on older Soviet designs, again probably not the stealthiest

A politically correct battle would never be won.

djl
 
In scrolling through a few threads i have come across comments that hint at hubris by america in any prediction of war between america and china. I have read comments that assume the chinese are poorly equipped or untested. Though when the chinese can call on nearly a billion foot soldiers i am not sure what test is required to pass in order to succeed at becoming cannon fodder.
For those who think china may not be prepared or capable of putting up a fight may be in for a surprise.
U.S. media: PLA Navy to top the world in 2020 - China Military Online


America might just win such a war but then hillary might have also been a president. Things do not always go as planned.

You describe well, why Kissinger might have made a strategic error.
 
1 billion foot soldier's standing in the mainland is pretty much useless..

I would assume that any war with China would be over those little sandbar island in the China sea.. That would be a naval battle..

Our military infrastructure is so incompetently handled we couldn't possibly wage any war competently. In fact the only competent wars we've waged in the past 75 years were WW2, the Korean War, and the Gulf war. Every other circumstance has been a cluster**** handled by incompetent buffoons.

While this is very true.. I don't think China's navy can match up with ours. ( I guess it would all depend on how aggressive we were and who was in charge of the battle
They have a small fleet of Nuclear subs,, They are reportedly plagued with problems and also "noisy"
They have a large fleet of diesel/electric subs based on older Soviet designs, again probably not the stealthiest

A politically correct battle would never be won.

djl

1 billion foot soldiers vs a dozen or so high altitude stealth bombers = 500 million dead/injured foot soldiers and 500 million foot soldiers running home as fast as they can (less the ones who stick around to help their injured comrades).

People just don't understand how far past everyone our military tech is - especially in the realm of high altitude stealth bombers. That one piece of military tech puts us WAY out in front of everyone else on the planet. China throws a billion foot soldiers at us, we respond by carpet-bombing those foot soldiers with smart anti-personnel munitions dropped from planes that the Chinese can't detect and if they do detect them, it's already too late to do anything about them or do anything to save those foot soldiers.
 
Our military infrastructure is so incompetently handled we couldn't possibly wage any war competently. In fact the only competent wars we've waged in the past 75 years were WW2, the Korean War, and the Gulf war. Every other circumstance has been a cluster**** handled by incompetent buffoons.

'Main problem has probably been that Americans are confused and are therefore not willing to do the nasty stuff required. But it is probably even worse. We do not seem to be getting our act together to do the things necessary to prevent wars in the near future.
 
1 billion foot soldier's standing in the mainland is pretty much useless..

I would assume that any war with China would be over those little sandbar island in the China sea.. That would be a naval battle..

Our military infrastructure is so incompetently handled we couldn't possibly wage any war competently. In fact the only competent wars we've waged in the past 75 years were WW2, the Korean War, and the Gulf war. Every other circumstance has been a cluster**** handled by incompetent buffoons.

While this is very true.. I don't think China's navy can match up with ours. ( I guess it would all depend on how aggressive we were and who was in charge of the battle
They have a small fleet of Nuclear subs,, They are reportedly plagued with problems and also "noisy"
They have a large fleet of diesel/electric subs based on older Soviet designs, again probably not the stealthiest

A politically correct battle would never be won.

djl

Which is why China is not gearing up to fight a war with the US thousands of miles away from it's boarders. That is a war China could not win and has no reason to engage in. China is as mentioned building up a strategy of area denial area access. The US has at least 4 times the amount of modern fighter aircraft that China does, but it is spread out across the world, China's are located only in China. So in effect China is only building up to be able to fight a limited war, centered on its boarders both sea and land. Against its direct neighbors China has a military advantage when adding up all of its capability. It would still have extreme difficulty in invading Taiwan, but it can destroy Taiwans economy through air and missile strikes.

As for the US and China, in a limited war, without bombing either countries home territory, say focused on the south China sea region, China could win in a limited engagement. By focusing all of it forces from air and missile units to make the US forces in the region take significant losses. But of course that would just cause the US to adjust and bring the rest of its forces to bear on China, making it no longer limited. But to strike the Chinese homeland could result in China striking the US homeland leading to full scale war including nukes.

Which brings us back to the Chinese goals

1. Be strong enough in the region that they could win decisively in any short engagement with any foe.
2. Hope that is a strong enough deterrent to prevent the US from engaging China in confrontation.
3. If that fails back away and wait. China would and does not want to engage the US directly in war. Especially when it could not win a full scale unlimited war
 
1 billion foot soldier's standing in the mainland is pretty much useless..

True, right up till the point the first american soldier tries to put a foot on that mainland.

I would assume that any war with China would be over those little sandbar island in the China sea.
Only if america makes the first move and once again becomes a invading country.
 
'Main problem has probably been that Americans are confused and are therefore not willing to do the nasty stuff required. But it is probably even worse. We do not seem to be getting our act together to do the things necessary to prevent wars in the near future.

The nasty stuff required???

Confused?? About what?? That we should allow any or all "nasty stuff " happen if it will win a war?

Just for interest sake can you list them in order of preference? Where do you put water boarding to genital mutilation? Or acceptable number of losses of civilian life and property? What about preventive, the future wars? A few c.i.a. assassin strikes to control other country governments? Build a wall or two or is that for starting wars?

When you say nasty stuff do you mean the nasty stuff the good guys like the americans do or the nasty stuff like the bad guys the commies do?
 
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The nasty stuff required???

Confused?? About what?? That we should allow any or all "nasty stuff " happen if it will win a war?

Just for interest sake can you list them in order of preference? Where do you put water boarding to genital mutilation? Or acceptable number of losses of civilian life and property? What about preventive, the future wars? A few c.i.a. assassin strikes to control other country governments? Build a wall or two or is that for starting wars?

When you say nasty stuff do you mean the nasty stuff the good guys like the americans do or the nasty stuff like the bad guys the commies do?

The way you formulate it, you aren't interested in a discussion. So bother someone else.
 
1 billion foot soldier's standing in the mainland is pretty much useless..

I would assume that any war with China would be over those little sandbar island in the China sea.. That would be a naval battle..

Our military infrastructure is so incompetently handled we couldn't possibly wage any war competently. In fact the only competent wars we've waged in the past 75 years were WW2, the Korean War, and the Gulf war. Every other circumstance has been a cluster**** handled by incompetent buffoons.

While this is very true.. I don't think China's navy can match up with ours. ( I guess it would all depend on how aggressive we were and who was in charge of the battle
They have a small fleet of Nuclear subs,, They are reportedly plagued with problems and also "noisy"
They have a large fleet of diesel/electric subs based on older Soviet designs, again probably not the stealthiest

A politically correct battle would never be won.

djl

China is trying to develop denial weaponry, to keep us at a distance.
 
The way you formulate it, you aren't interested in a discussion. So bother someone else.

Ok, my apology. In my defense the words "nasty stuff" just begs a sarcastic response. But i will put that aside as i am truly curious here.

Although i could have worded it better, the accusations of what nasty stuff might imply are still correct. Some would argue that in war we do what must be done in order to win. While others see good reason for limitation.
Although there is a huge grey area of probability and necessity here i would argue that the consequences of such actions is a pyrrhic victory. That the philosophy of just following orders is not a defense for any persons actions. Rule .303 is not an acceptable conduct of war.
 
Assuming any war stayed conventional?

America could conquer China. But without help from other countries (to use their lands as bases - like Japan), it would probably be VERY bloody. Maybe even hit and miss for a long time as America would have to fight hard for a solid beachhead and have to re-supply it from many thousands of miles away. She would have to completely rely on her carrier forces and her long range bombers/cruise missiles to gain air superiority.

With Japan as an ally, it would be FAR easier as China could be pounded into submission before they were invaded.

On the other hand, China does not remotely have the Navy to mount an attack against America (outside of Hawaii).
 
Assuming any war stayed conventional?

America could conquer China. .

Just no...

The best analysis I have found for conflict between the two nations (using 2016's capabilities) can be found here... In 10 years time things will likely be different again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3VqF2dXje0

In short...

A conventional war between the to nations (no nuclear devices) would be extremely costly and extremely drawn out.

Ultimately the USA would prevail, although a land invasion would be impossible.

The USA could grind down the Chinese navy and air force over many months until China could no longer challenge the South China sea, howver it would probably cost the USA several carriers, a large amount of it's navy and air force, while tying up US forces from elsewhere in the globe.

The USA would have to rely heavily on it's allies such as Japan for support.

Of course the sad reality is that in the event of conflict there is a good chance at some point it will go nuclear.
 
Blockade.

A standoff blockade. USN and USAF in Air-Sea Battle positioning themselves out of easy range of the A2/AD capabilities of the PLA and its Navy and Air Force. Interdicting all shipping except the most humanitarian to include air flights to the China mainland.

U.S. Naval War College has worked this through again and again over the past 15 years. By 2013 they'd finally got it. Since then US armed forces can blockade the entire coast of CCP China, from Dalian and Shanghai in the North to Hong Kong, Shenzhen, Guangzhou(Canton) on the South China Sea, to include Hainan Island which is the head base of the PLA Navy South Fleet and most of its submarines.

China’s Seven Fears are as follows:

1.) America’s war plan is to blockade China:


https://hudson.org/research/11039-china-s-seven-fears-when-it-comes-to-america

The author Michael Pillsbury sittith in the Trump councils on CCP China and for a good reason. Pillsbury of the Hudson Institute of New York and Sydney knows the Boyz of Beijing and he knows 'em well, over decades of face to face contact.



Blockade is what CCP Dictators in Beijing most fear in an open conflict against the United States. The leaders of the East Asia region know it and the CCP Boyz in Beijing know it is their greatest vulnerability.

When politicians and some military planners look at war they like to say, well, by our ingenious plan this operation will be short, swift, decisive. That it wouldn't last long because we'll attack 'em, smash 'em and win before anyone knows what's going on. We know all too well that line of disastrous thinking.

Blockade is not included in this kind of contest, which is War By Standoff Blockade. With technology, missiles, assets in the air, on the ocean surface and below it, no navy worth its salt needs 500 ships and no Air Force needs all of its planes.

Blockading oil to CCP China via the Strait of Malacca shuts off ME oil supplies to the CCP mainland. CCP's extensive dependency on importing food does make an Air-Sea blockade more effective, hence more swift to conclude on terms favorable to the good guyz. (Only 4% of China's land remains arable.)



A combatant needs effective arrows in his quiver for when the guys with the battle axes and maces are not the main combatants....and preferably not the principal combatants. It's conflict or a contest of wills and resources in one way or another, hence Air-Sea Standoff Blockade of the entire coast of CCP China as the ultimate, or a blockade of specified areas in specified locales, such as in the South China Sea.....


One way in which it might do this would be through a blockade of Chinese maritime traffic by U.S. forces, with the explicit support of nations that control key international straits, including Indonesia and Malaysia. Though it would be costly and risky, a blockade could prove decisive. T.X. Hammes and Sean Mirski contend that in the right circumstances, particularly a limited war of long duration, blockade could be a war winning strategy.

At the same time, however, a blockade would not be without its pitfalls. It would take a long time to enact. It would have to balance interdiction of oil imports against economic exports. And a blockading nation would also need to consider how to “hold the line” to prevent China from achieving its goal while a blockade was taking effect.

Given its potential utility and also its possible downsides, decision makers and theater commanders must understand how a blockade of China would actually work and the precise conditions under which it holds promise. Regardless, the problem of blockade is less of military feasibility and more of political will and economic sacrifice.

https://warontherocks.com/2013/10/blockading-china-a-guide/
 
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Just no...

The best analysis I have found for conflict between the two nations (using 2016's capabilities) can be found here... In 10 years time things will likely be different again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3VqF2dXje0

In short...

A conventional war between the to nations (no nuclear devices) would be extremely costly and extremely drawn out.

Ultimately the USA would prevail, although a land invasion would be impossible.

The USA could grind down the Chinese navy and air force over many months until China could no longer challenge the South China sea, howver it would probably cost the USA several carriers, a large amount of it's navy and air force, while tying up US forces from elsewhere in the globe.

The USA would have to rely heavily on it's allies such as Japan for support.

Of course the sad reality is that in the event of conflict there is a good chance at some point it will go nuclear.

Wrong.

First, impossible means just that...and there are TONS of scenarios - no matter how unlikely - that make it very possible. Skilled scientists and analysts NEVER use the term 'impossible' unless it is impossible with the known laws of physics.

Of course a land invasion is possible. America is still far ahead technologically of China. And forget the 1.3 billion Chinese. Masses of poorly equipped and trained soldiers are no match for far superior weapons and training plus a superior military manufacturing capability.
Yes, it would be bloody...very. But ultimately, if America threw everything she had into it and used sound tactics - she would prevail in a land conquest of China.
This is assuming every other country (and the UN) stays COMPLETELY out of the conflict.
China's advanced military weapons are almost all foreign in origin. Without foreign aid to replenish them, they would have to rely on VERY outdated weapons systems that they could manufacture to replace them. America can re-start her production lines whenever she wishes and turn out state-of-the-art weapons all by herself. Plus, no way China has enough natural resources for a long, drawn out, total conventional war against America. America probably does...especially in oil.
Additionally, China does not remotely have the means to attack America's war economy conventionally. Whereas America could bombard China's factories - using Naval air power and long range bombers/cruise missiles - further hurting their war production.

No, imo, America could defeat China in a total conventional war (including a land battle) today.

In 30 years? I am not so sure.
 
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Wrong.

First, impossible means just that...and there are TONS of scenarios - no matter how unlikely - that make it very possible. Skilled scientists and analysts NEVER use the term 'impossible' unless it is impossible with the known laws of physics.

Of course a land invasion is possible. America is still far ahead technologically of China. And forget the 1.3 billion Chinese. Masses of poorly equipped and trained soldiers are no match for far superior weapons and training plus a superior military manufacturing capability.
Yes, it would be bloody...very. But ultimately, if America threw everything she had into it and used sound tactics - she would prevail in a land conquest of China.
This is assuming every other country (and the UN) stays COMPLETELY out of the conflict.
China's advanced military weapons are almost all foreign in origin. Without foreign aid to replenish them, they would have to rely on VERY outdated weapons systems that they could manufacture to replace them. America can re-start her production lines whenever she wishes and turn out state-of-the-art weapons all by herself. Plus, no way China has enough natural resources for a long, drawn out, total conventional war against America. America probably does...especially in oil.
Additionally, China does not remotely have the means to attack America's war economy conventionally. Whereas America could bombard China's factories - using Naval air power and long range bombers/cruise missiles - further hurting their war production.

No, imo, America could defeat China in a total conventional war (including a land battle) today.

In 30 years? I am not so sure.

Re the bolded area

If that is the case the US would lose.

For every other country and the UN to stay out of it, then the US would not be able to use its foreign military bases in SK, Japan, etc. So the US supply chain would be from the west coast to China, with no pre staged materials in any other country. So the US would be limited to using Guam and its aircraft carriers for fighter support, some long ranged bombers of course could fly from the US to hit targets in China.

So China would have to focus on anti ship missiles long range of course, ensure that they have enough sats in space to help guide them and use its subs as best it can.

Of course, the US would use its bases in SK, Japan etc, ensuring those countries would become involved after China sends ballistic missiles to hit said bases. Last but not least any invasion of China would of course lead to the Chinese uses nuclear weapons, perhaps preemptively if they believed said invasion was likely
 
Re the bolded area

If that is the case the US would lose.

For every other country and the UN to stay out of it, then the US would not be able to use its foreign military bases in SK, Japan, etc. So the US supply chain would be from the west coast to China, with no pre staged materials in any other country. So the US would be limited to using Guam and its aircraft carriers for fighter support, some long ranged bombers of course could fly from the US to hit targets in China.

So China would have to focus on anti ship missiles long range of course, ensure that they have enough sats in space to help guide them and use its subs as best it can.

Of course, the US would use its bases in SK, Japan etc, ensuring those countries would become involved after China sends ballistic missiles to hit said bases. Last but not least any invasion of China would of course lead to the Chinese uses nuclear weapons, perhaps preemptively if they believed said invasion was likely

This whole scenario of mine is based on no nukes and NO other countries involved in ANY WAY. If we include other countries, I think it just makes America's task FAR easier as America still has FAR more friends in the area/world than China does.
ANd no way either side uses nukes as they both know it would mean the end of hundreds of millions of people.

What is to stop America building a large island just outside of Chinese waters in international waters before the conflict began - just as China is doing right now? It would take years, but they could use this as a jumping off base only 3-500 miles from China proper.

Or, what is to stop America first conquering Taiwan before going on to China proper?

She already has the capability to launch over a thousand advanced naval aircraft and land tens of thousands of fully equipped, troops at any Pacific Ocean shoreline in China - given enough lead time to prepare. Once she has pounded China into submission through long range attacks from Guam/naval air attacks/cruise missile attacks - she could then launch an unstoppable 'D-Day' on to China proper or Taiwan.
And once she has a solid, defendable beachhead, China's fate would be sealed. It would take a LONG time and be VERY bloody...but China would be doomed.

There are a myriad of options for America - providing they think long term enough and have the necessary resolve.

America - in 2017 - is just too strong for China.
 
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What is to stop America building a large island just outside of Chinese waters in international waters before the conflict began - just as China is doing right now? It would take years, but they could use this as a jumping off base only 3-500 miles from China proper.

Or, what is to stop America first conquering Taiwan before going on to China proper?

She already has the capability to launch over a thousand advanced naval aircraft and land tens of thousands of troops at any shoreline location in an ocean - given enough lead time to prepare. Once she has pounded China into submission through long range attacks - she could then launch an unstoppable 'D-Day' on to China proper or Taiwan.

There are a myriad of options for America - providing they think long term enough and have the necessary resolve.

America - in 2017 - is just too strong.

Cost, and praticallity

The US has military bases already, it is not going to build an artificial island large/s large enough to replace its current military bases as the costs would be extreme, I expect to replace just the US bases in Japan with artificial island bases with the same capacity would cost over $100 billion. China's artificial island are not that large, certainly no where near the size of US military bases in Japan. The time frame would of course take years, if it takes the US 10 to build the new carrier, I expect it would take at least that long to build the new bases, allowing China the time to develop and build mass amounts of advanced stealth cruise missiles with the range and power to take out said bases.

Invading Taiwan is not leaving other countries out of it.

Overall

1. Any invasion of China would lead to the use of Nukes.
2. The US probably could do it but bankrupt itself in the process.
3. The US would gain nothing in the process. China does not have a lot of excess natural resources which could be used as war booty
4. The US would then be in charge of the governance of 1.3 billion Chinese people, and unless the goal is to have hundreds of millions starve, it would have to provide foodstuffs for a good few years

So despite our fantasy world, no invasion is going to occur. Anything past limited battles will result in a nuclear war, in which there is no winner, just a country that lost the least
 
Cost, and praticallity

The US has military bases already, it is not going to build an artificial island large/s large enough to replace its current military bases as the costs would be extreme, I expect to replace just the US bases in Japan with artificial island bases with the same capacity would cost over $100 billion. China's artificial island are not that large, certainly no where near the size of US military bases in Japan. The time frame would of course take years, if it takes the US 10 to build the new carrier, I expect it would take at least that long to build the new bases, allowing China the time to develop and build mass amounts of advanced stealth cruise missiles with the range and power to take out said bases.

Invading Taiwan is not leaving other countries out of it.

Overall

1. Any invasion of China would lead to the use of Nukes.
2. The US probably could do it but bankrupt itself in the process.
3. The US would gain nothing in the process. China does not have a lot of excess natural resources which could be used as war booty
4. The US would then be in charge of the governance of 1.3 billion Chinese people, and unless the goal is to have hundreds of millions starve, it would have to provide foodstuffs for a good few years

So despite our fantasy world, no invasion is going to occur. Anything past limited battles will result in a nuclear war, in which there is no winner, just a country that lost the least

Look...I am not getting into some gigantic discussion with you on this. I do not have the interest.

You think America could not do it. I think they could...and I have said how.

And btw - this island would take - imo - at most five years and cost a tiny fraction of the current military budget of America over that time. It is definitely doable.

You do not agree...fine.

Good day.
 
"Battle ready" is such an odd phrase to us for referring to a strategic situation like that of China's.

As of right now, the PLA Navy nor the PLAAF posses the capability to go toe to toe with American naval and air forces and come out on top. However, China has made significant strides in closing the gap between itself and the American military, and has developed a number of ways in which they can attempt to mitigate the effect of American qualitative superiority.
 
Wrong.

First, impossible means just that...and there are TONS of scenarios - no matter how unlikely - that make it very possible. Skilled scientists and analysts NEVER use the term 'impossible' unless it is impossible with the known laws of physics.

It is impossible because there is no physical way it can be achieved without a massive global coalition involving Russia, India, Japan, South Korea etc. Chinese ground forces are simply too numerous and the USA simply can not land enough men ashore. The sky is blue, water is wet.

Of course a land invasion is possible. America is still far ahead technologically of China. And forget the 1.3 billion Chinese. Masses of poorly equipped and trained soldiers are no match for far superior weapons and training plus a superior military manufacturing capability.

As previously mentioned, the Chinese military is close enough to parity to make any technological advantage moot in the face of overwhelming numbers. Geography is the USA's biggest disadvantage.

How would the USA establish a beachhead?
 
The way you formulate it, you aren't interested in a discussion. So bother someone else.

This is why I am glad I read through the other responses. The initial question interested me, but it is obvious the poster has no real interest in the topic at all, but wants to ramble on about political matters.

Assuming any war stayed conventional?

OK, if the war did not stay conventional, then it is a nuclear war. No reason to talk about that at all.

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America could conquer China.

Wow, this is so funny I am honestly finding it hard to make the words come out.

For one, the last time the US can be said to have "conquered" anybody was over 100 years ago.

For two, the US once had control of a huge area of China. They willingly gave that control back to China.

For three, the odds of the US taking out China at this time is somewhere around 3%, and that is being generous. Are you aware that most of our Naval Aviation is inoperative? Plain old worn out or down for maintenance with no replacement parts available? That entire classes of ships in our Navy are going to or are already in the boneyard, with no replacements even being considered? That in the last decade we have lost an entire Marine Infantry Regiment? That for over 20 years we have only had a single Armored Division?

I have absolutely no idea where these forces would come from that would "conquer China".

So the US supply chain would be from the west coast to China, with no pre staged materials in any other country. So the US would be limited to using Guam and its aircraft carriers for fighter support, some long ranged bombers of course could fly from the US to hit targets in China.

Guam, American Samoa, Marianna Islands, and that is to start.

And if there is ever a Sino-American War, you can bet that the flashpoint is going to involve Japan. So you can pretty much include all of those bases on Okinawa.

And there is a 50-50 chance that any conflict would involve the Philippines. If so, that becomes another nation involved.

The US itself has no real interest in that area, other than transit rights (which it enforces internationally). The two other countries with direct involvement in the region are the Philippines and Japan. So assuming the US would get involved without attacks on one or the other of those two nations (short of an invasion of Taiwan) is silly.
 
As previously mentioned, the Chinese military is close enough to parity to make any technological advantage moot in the face of overwhelming numbers. Geography is the USA's biggest disadvantage.

How would the USA establish a beachhead?

Yea, and what exactly is the force projection capability of the PLA, PLAAF, and the PLAN?

I have told you before, and will tell you again. China is a powerhouse of a military nation, in it's own country and along it's own borders. But they completely lack any kind of force projection capability that makes them a threat to anybody further away than say Taiwan.

The US on the other hand has proven over and over again that within a week they can shift entire combat divisions half way around the world, and then keep them provisioned as they ship in an ever increasingly powerful force and keep them provisioned as well.

China has nowhere near that capability, so there is absolutely no "parity" at all.

And like a great many, I am underwhelmed "Chinese military technology". In short, most of it is untested, having been fielded and proclaimed a success while in the US the same piece of equipment would not even realistically be called in the prototype phase (we would consider it still a "proof of concept" phase).

No, there is no parity. And China also has the largest military in the world with little to no combat experience. I doubt if there are many left who are still serving who were even butterbars or Privates in their last conflict (Sino-Vietnam War of 1979).

A 3 week and 6 day war, which would barely even be considered as anything for gaining combat experience.
 
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