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Fledermaus said:
Someone tell Tangmo when he gets a spine he can meet me. He knows where.
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Tangmo said:
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The rats are welcome to their sewers.

I'm up on the street and I'm walking on the sunny side of it.

As usual.

That which you arbitrarily and summarily deny, you must retract and recant. Until then there is no basis of a meeting of any kind any where at any time. As long as the rightwing insists on making their own definition and terms of my existence, you are in fact denied your existence and rightly so.

Recognize first and foremost that civilians and civilian authority own and control the military, not vice-versa.
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Moderator's Warning:
BOTH of you are skating on thin ice in this thread. Cease now before I cause the ice to dissolve under you both.
 
Tangmo said:
All for naught.

Do some reading because it's long past time the tactical noncoms went to school again.

Even headlines in different media are practically word for word.



China Is Reaping Biggest Benefits of Iraq Oil Boom

China Reaps Biggest Benefits of Iraq Oil Boom - The New York Times




Who Won the Iraq War? China
Who Won the Iraq War? China - The Atlantic




Iraq War Paying Off — for China

Remember those assurances that the Iraq War would pay for itself, once those oil revenues began gushing forth from a liberated Iraq? Well, a decade later, the Iraq War is paying off after all — for China.

"We lost out," said Michael Makovsky, a former Defense Department official in the Bush administration. "The Chinese had nothing to do with the war," he told the New York Times, "but from an economic standpoint they are benefiting from it, and our Fifth Fleet and air forces are helping to assure their supply."

China is the biggest customer of Iraq's oil, buying nearly 1.5 million barrels a day, close to half the oil Iraq produces, the Times reported. Beijing is looking to increase that share as it bids for a stake now owned by Exxon Mobil in one of Iraq's largest oil fields.

Iraq War Paying Off ? for China
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And somehow in your delusional little mind China taking advantage of the fact that ty US decided to remove Sadddam from power is the fault of NCOs. Bet you can't explain exactly how that is. Actually it's more likely you will simply ignore this post just like you ignored my earlier post explaining just how ridiculous your little claim is. I guess when you can't refute the evidence it's best just to try and ignore it. I take it that's what you are going for.
 
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braindrain said:
And somehow in your delusional little mind China taking advantage of the fact that ty US decided to remove Sadddam from power is the fault of NCOs. Bet you can't explain exactly how that is. Actually it's more likely you will simply ignore this post just like you ignored my earlier post explaining just how ridiculous your little claim is. I guess when you can't refute the evidence it's best just to try and ignore it. I take it that's what you are going for.
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It's a same and same post as somebody else...whomever else cause there's a bunch of youse.

In many instances a reply to one is a reply to most, or sometimes a reply to all. Saves me time and trouble is all I know about it.

All the same it's as if there's a bunch in a posting pool somewhere all yapping away together as they post together, some sooner and others a bit later. Most of the time from over here a reply post to one hits several birds with one stone.

The retired lifer-loser nco club posting away.

The club was sent over to remove Saddam and to, um, drain the swamp over there as one could put it. The 2003 charge into the swamp was awesome. No question about it. Largest country, Iraq, U.S. military ever invaded...bigger than France during WW2. Swept right into Baghdad, all colors flying.

Then they found themselves up to their ass in alligators, so to speak. Vietnam was a quagmire and Iraq was another loser from the get go. Can't win 'em all for sure but let's try to win one at the least eh. Sooner or later. Somewhere somehow.
 
Tangmo said:
It's a same and same post as somebody else...whomever else cause there's a bunch of youse.

In many instances a reply to one is a reply to most, or sometimes a reply to all. Saves me time and trouble is all I know about it.

All the same it's as if there's a bunch in a posting pool somewhere all yapping away together as they post together, some sooner and others a bit later. Most of the time from over here a reply post to one hits several birds with one stone.

The retired lifer-loser nco club posting away.

The club was sent over to remove Saddam and to, um, drain the swamp over there as one could put it. The 2003 charge into the swamp was awesome. No question about it. Largest country, Iraq, U.S. military ever invaded...bigger than France during WW2. Swept right into Baghdad, all colors flying.

Then they found themselves up to their ass in alligators, so to speak. Vietnam was a quagmire and Iraq was another loser from the get go. Can't win 'em all for sure but let's try to win one at the least eh. Sooner or later. Somewhere somehow.
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Still avoiding telling us how it was NCOs that made the decisions that lead to those strategic level missteps that happened in either war I noticed. Don't worry we all know the reason you continue to do so is because you can't. We are all really just laughing at you at this point. So tell us what did you do as an E2 that caused an NCO to get you kicked out of the Army. Don't be shy you can tell us.
 
braindrain said:
Still avoiding telling us how it was NCOs that made the decisions that lead to those strategic level missteps that happened in either war I noticed. Don't worry we all know the reason you continue to do so is because you can't. We are all really just laughing at you at this point. So tell us what did you do as an E2 that caused an NCO to get you kicked out of the Army. Don't be shy you can tell us.
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Picking up the slack in the rightwhinge posting pool I see. Must be break time for some.

Cause it's the same and same E2 some noncom did me wrong stuff that comes from too many lunar orbits back in the day.

Running up and down the hills and howling at the moon stuff. It's irresistible over there. So it goes on every night and day whether the moon happens to be visible in the blue sky or not. The gravitational pull is powerful so it will continue indefinitely as will the mad laughter with it.

So as I'd said, many times one stone can kill or scatter a flock of 'em. Bats in the belfry.
 
Tangmo said:
It's a same and same post as somebody else...whomever else cause there's a bunch of youse.

In many instances a reply to one is a reply to most, or sometimes a reply to all. Saves me time and trouble is all I know about it.

All the same it's as if there's a bunch in a posting pool somewhere all yapping away together as they post together, some sooner and others a bit later. Most of the time from over here a reply post to one hits several birds with one stone.

The retired lifer-loser nco club posting away.

The club was sent over to remove Saddam and to, um, drain the swamp over there as one could put it. The 2003 charge into the swamp was awesome. No question about it. Largest country, Iraq, U.S. military ever invaded...bigger than France during WW2. Swept right into Baghdad, all colors flying.

Then they found themselves up to their ass in alligators, so to speak. Vietnam was a quagmire and Iraq was another loser from the get go. Can't win 'em all for sure but let's try to win one at the least eh. Sooner or later. Somewhere somehow.
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You're right in your assessment of the invasions of Iraq and Vietnam, but none of that was the fault of the NCO cadre. If blame must be assigned, it was the fault of political leadership and what Ike called the Military Industrial Complex, those who profit mightily from military adventurism. Like Smedly Butler USMC said, war is a racket. Short and sweet, and too damn true.
 
Tangmo said:
The right wingnut retired lifer-loser noncoms are unable to compete with the discourse at this level at this thread. They instead can only sling garbage and bull****. Everything with the rightwing rat pack of retired lifer nco's must be reduced to the personal because they know nothing strategic, nothing of history, nothing of military command.

They know not nor can they discuss anything beyond the personal, the latrine, the mess hall, the rack they occupied and their socks. Retired lifer nco rightwingers who are always active rightwingers. Until the day they die with their boots on that rack too.

One tries daily and long term to put his best foot forward, however, there are times and there are certain other people when one must necessarily put his boot up where the sun don't shine.

The place is here and the time is now.
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Waiting for you in a more appropriate venue.

Quit contaminating this thread with your hatred for career military.
 
Thoreau72 said:
You're right in your assessment of the invasions of Iraq and Vietnam, but none of that was the fault of the NCO cadre. If blame must be assigned, it was the fault of political leadership and what Ike called the Military Industrial Complex, those who profit mightily from military adventurism. Like Smedly Butler USMC said, war is a racket. Short and sweet, and too damn true.
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When you are right, you are right.
 
Tangmo said:
Picking up the slack in the rightwhinge posting pool I see. Must be break time for some.

Cause it's the same and same E2 some noncom did me wrong stuff that comes from too many lunar orbits back in the day.

Running up and down the hills and howling at the moon stuff. It's irresistible over there. So it goes on every night and day whether the moon happens to be visible in the blue sky or not. The gravitational pull is powerful so it will continue indefinitely as will the mad laughter with it.

So as I'd said, many times one stone can kill or scatter a flock of 'em. Bats in the belfry.
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Still not explaining to us how it was NCOs that made all the decisions that led to all the strategic missteps in those wars I see. It's because you can't and everyone here knows it. Including you but you just can't bring yourself to admit it.
 
Fledermaus said:
Did you read the part where we lost every war sine 1945 and it was the NCOs fault?
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I love how in one post he is claiming NCOs do little more then make sure weapons are clean and the men are fed and in the next is trying to blame NCOs for strategic level errors that were made in Iraq and Vietnam. An honest person would not try and claim both.
 
Tangmo said:
The post was made before we sort of got the "gag order" straightened out to have been a "request" by Susan Rice, documented in the minutes of the National Security Council.

I also ask about your Legion Post membership and activity over time, wondering if your post sponsored a Legion baseball team. I wuz active in my Legion Post baseball team for 20 years off and on, depending on when I was back in town from life and work in other states or areas of USA. Then I went abroad and have been an expat for a while now, disconnected from Legion Baseball.

Legion Ball is a great thing indeed and some damn good baseball in almost all instances. It's a brief and intense summer season schedule to include playoffs, which is due mainly to people's work schedules to include the players of course.

In the case of my Legion Post sponsors and most of the coaches vs almost all of the young players, it was also right vs left :bringit


:2grouphug
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Yes, my Legion Post sponsored a baseball team but I was not involved with it and don't know much about it. I think they consistently won a majority of games. We also donated college scholarships to the local high school, and provided an Honor Guard and bugler at military funerals.
 
I swear I saw Admiral Harris delivering milk bottles when I was young. Maybe it was his Dad. The uniform was the same.
 
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