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Pentagon: North Korean Missiles Can Reach The United States

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N. Korea is not an easy prey unlike Iraq and Afghanistan.

"The threat is serious and real and should not, in my view, be played down," Prof. Mike Gruntman, a PhD and professor of astronautics at the University of Southern California, told Business Insider in a Mar. 8 email.
From The New York Times:
Officials acknowledged that the ground-based interceptors based in Alaska and California have shown dubious capabilities in tests, and said the additional interceptors would be deployed only when they had proven their capability. “We have confidence in our system,” Mr. Hagel said.
In a speech Tuesday, James Miller, Defense Undersecretary for Policy also spoke of the threat. From the Marine Corps Times:
"Our concern about Pyongyang's potential ICBM capability is compounded by the regime's focus on developing nuclear weapons. North Korea's third nuclear test last month is obviously a serious concern for all nations," he said.
At the Friday press briefing, officials stressed that the entire United States would be covered [from potential threats] by interceptors stationed in Alaska.


Read more: Pentagon: North Korean Missiles Can Reach The United States - Business Insider
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RDS said:
N. Korea is not an easy prey unlike Iraq and Afghanistan.
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North Korea's development of a nuclear arsenal is worrisome, but we shouldn't go overboard about it.

From what I understand, the real danger isn't that North Korea can launch nuclear weapons against the United States but that it can do so against South Korea and Japan, the U.S.' biggest allies in Asia.

And what's making all this difficult is the PRC's stance in regards to the Korean peninsula. The PRC doesn't like North Korea all that much, but it would rather have a Korea divided than a Korea united under the influence of the United States rather than the PRC. So as long as the U.S. is a major ally of South Korea, the PRC will prevent reconciliation between North and South Korea.

Which really ****ing sucks for everybody. This could have the potential to cause World War III.
 
I don't care if they can theoretically reach my back yard. no more war.
 
samsmart said:
North Korea's development of a nuclear arsenal is worrisome, but we shouldn't go overboard about it.

From what I understand, the real danger isn't that North Korea can launch nuclear weapons against the United States but that it can do so against South Korea and Japan, the U.S.' biggest allies in Asia.

And what's making all this difficult is the PRC's stance in regards to the Korean peninsula. The PRC doesn't like North Korea all that much, but it would rather have a Korea divided than a Korea united under the influence of the United States rather than the PRC. So as long as the U.S. is a major ally of South Korea, the PRC will prevent reconciliation between North and South Korea.

Which really ****ing sucks for everybody. This could have the potential to cause World War III.
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Prefer a World War III. I can watch by the sidelines.
 
"Easy prey"? Is nK a victim?

Do you support nK using nukes?
 
ecofarm said:
"Easy prey"? Is nK a victim?

Do you support nK using nukes?
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Neither North Korea being a victim nor support of North Korea using nuclear weapons have any bearing on how difficult it would be for the US to engage in a military operation against North Korea, mostly because of its alliance with the People's Republic of China.

If the US was to engage in such military operations, the PRC would intervene on North Korea's behalf in order to maintain a buffer state on the Korean Peninsula. In which case there would be war between the US and the PRC. Which would be quite catastrophic.
 
samsmart said:
Neither North Korea being a victim nor support of North Korea using nuclear weapons have any bearing on how difficult it would be for the US to engage in a military operation against North Korea, mostly because of its alliance with the People's Republic of China.
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I'm well aware, I wasn't born last night.


If the US was to engage in such military operations, the PRC would intervene on North Korea's behalf in order to maintain a buffer state on the Korean Peninsula. In which case there would be war between the US and the PRC. Which would be quite catastrophic.
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I disagree. China interfering could risk a cancellation of debt, which would end the state of China almost immediately.
 
If they can it really doesnt worry me. If they hit our country they will be gone in a heartbeat. They are stupid but they are not that crazy. Plus we have damn good anti missile defense system form my understanding.
 
Helix said:
I don't care if they can theoretically reach my back yard. no more war.
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You should care as they are more apt to use them than anybody else.

Do you not know what they believe about the US?
Kinda hard for them not to believe it when that is their indoctrination from an early age, and their lack of exposure to anything that says otherwise.

Yes. You damn well should care.
 
ecofarm said:
I disagree. China interfering could risk a cancellation of debt, which would end the state of China almost immediately.
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Hmmm. That's a great point.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
If they can it really doesnt worry me. If they hit our country they will be gone in a heartbeat. They are stupid but they are not that crazy. Plus we have damn good anti missile defense system form my understanding.
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They are that crazy.
And then we also have to deal with China if we respond.
So no they wouldn't be gone in a heartbeat.

And we likely wouldn't endanger South Korea either by responding Nukes.
So no, they would not be gone in a heart beat.
 
Excon said:
You should care as they are more apt to use them than anybody else.

Do you not know what they believe about the US?
Kinda hard for them not to believe it when that is their indoctrination from an early age, and their lack of exposure to anything that says otherwise.

Yes. You damn well should care.
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it's time for us to be a country again. we aren't the world's police force. we've been in a state of perpetual war for most of the twentieth century, and for all of the twenty first. enough.
 
Excon said:
They are that crazy.
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There is nothing to support this claim. They are not a suicidal state. All they have is the use of rhetoric.

And then we also have to deal with China if we respond.
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China is even telling North Korea to shut the **** up
 
Helix said:
it's time for us to be a country again. we aren't the world's police force. we've been in a state of perpetual war for most of the twentieth century, and for all of the twenty first. enough.
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Don't care about your spiel. NK is a threat. Period. You should care.



TheDemSocialist said:
There is nothing to support this claim. They are not a suicidal state. All they have is the use of rhetoric.
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Bs!
Of course they are that crazy.
They all are indoctrinated from an early age to believe we are monsters.
They didn't have the means before. They do now.
\Wait and see.

TheDemSocialist said:
China is even telling North Korea to shut the **** up
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And?
You think they would allow us ... what were your words again, oh yeah ... "If they hit our country they will be gone in a heartbeat."
You really think China would allow us to respond as such? You are fooling yourself if you believe that.
 
Excon said:
Bs!
Of course they are that crazy.
They all are indoctrinated from an early age to believe we are monsters.
They didn't have the means before. They do now.
\Wait and see.
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So because a nation is indoctrinated into hating us means they are "suicidal"? That means they will launch an attack against the most strong militarily country in the world, the country that has many many many many many many many more nuclear weapons than they do? That means they will risk their countries livelihood and their regimes and elite livelihood because they are indoctrinated and now have a nuclear bomb? If they use the bomb the whole international community and even China will turn their back to them. That is suicide for North Korea. Even China voted for the new round of sanctions!


And?
You think they would allow us ... what were your words again, oh yeah ... "If they hit our country they will be gone in a heartbeat."
You really think China would allow us to respond as such? You are fooling yourself if you believe that.
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Yes i do. North Korea is like Chinas step brother who doesnt shut the **** up.
 
I don't get why China is supposed to give a crap. Buffer state? I think a buffer parking lot will do just fine, as long as we don't set up a New Taiwan.
 
ecofarm said:
I disagree. China interfering could risk a cancellation of debt, which would end the state of China almost immediately.
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And be a cassus belli against the US, and reduce international faith in the US to payback our debts. Which isn't a good thing.
 
samsmart said:
And be a cassus belli against the US, and reduce international faith in the US to payback our debts. Which isn't a good thing.
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What? A minute ago you were talking about open war with China, and now you find this to be a problem? Fact of the matter is, our debt to China insures that they do not attack.
 
Excon said:
They are that crazy.
And then we also have to deal with China if we respond.
So no they wouldn't be gone in a heartbeat.

And we likely wouldn't endanger South Korea either by responding Nukes.
So no, they would not be gone in a heart beat.
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If North Korea were to actually nuke the United States, China would not back North Korea.

If North Korea were to actually nuke the United States, you can bet your ass that North Korea would be gone in a heartbeat.
 
Excon said:
You think they would allow us ... what were your words again, oh yeah ... "If they hit our country they will be gone in a heartbeat."
You really think China would allow us to respond as such? You are fooling yourself if you believe that.
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If North Korea nuked the United States, China would not interfere with the United States.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
So because a nation is indoctrinated into hating us means they are "suicidal"? That means they will launch an attack against the most strong militarily country in the world, the country that has many many many many many many many more nuclear weapons than they do? That means they will risk their countries livelihood and their regimes and elite livelihood because they are indoctrinated and now have a nuclear bomb?
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:doh They are indoctrinated not just into hating us, but into false beliefs about us.
You think that doesn't include our abilities?


TheDemSocialist said:
If they use the bomb ... even China will turn their back to them.
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Highly unlikely.


TheDemSocialist said:
Even China voted for the new round of sanctions!
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And what are they saying and doing behind the scenes?



TheDemSocialist said:
Yes i do. North Korea is like Chinas step brother who doesnt shut the **** up.
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You are entitled to your beliefs. Doesn't make it right.
 
zstep18 said:
If North Korea nuked the United States, China would not interfere with the United States.
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That's like saying the US would trust China to nuke Mexico and the US wouldn't respond to all those nukes heading our way.
 
al qaeda terrorists were not from korea:mrgreen:
 
Excon said:
:doh They are indoctrinated not just into hating us, but into false beliefs about us.
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So?

You think that doesn't include our abilities?
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I didnt know it was the average everyday indoctrinated citizen making decisions. Its the elite making the decisions. Im pretty sure the DPRK elite know our abilities.



Highly unlikely.
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What does the DPRK give China? What incentive does China have to protect the DPRK if the DPRK strikes us first?




You are entitled to your beliefs. Doesn't make it right.
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Same to you i guess :roll:
 
samsmart said:
That's like saying the US would trust China to nuke Mexico and the US wouldn't respond to all those nukes heading our way.
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If North Korea actually did nuke the the United States, that would be the end of North Korea. Period.
 
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