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AP Exclusive: Thousands of Ohio absentee applications denied

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AP Exclusive: Thousands of Ohio absentee applications denied

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Thousands of Ohio voters were held up or stymied in their efforts to get absentee ballots for last year’s general election because of missing or mismatched signatures on their ballot applications, an Associated Press review has found.

The signature requirement on such applications is a largely overlooked and spottily tracked step in Ohio’s voting process, which has shifted increasingly to mail-in ballots since early, no-fault absentee voting was instituted in 2005.
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'To supporters, the requirement is a useful form of protection against voter fraud and provides an extra layer of security necessary for absentee balloting.

To detractors, it’s a recipe for disenfranchisement.'
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Whose signature doesn't change with time? I won a penmanship award in 3rd grade for my cursive.- - now I can't tell with it's mine or not & have switched almost entirely to block lettering. The person't signature over the years is the least reliable proof of identity.
 
We know….2020 vote is already invalidated.
 
AP Exclusive: Thousands of Ohio absentee applications denied

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Thousands of Ohio voters were held up or stymied in their efforts to get absentee ballots for last year’s general election because of missing or mismatched signatures on their ballot applications, an Associated Press review has found.

The signature requirement on such applications is a largely overlooked and spottily tracked step in Ohio’s voting process, which has shifted increasingly to mail-in ballots since early, no-fault absentee voting was instituted in 2005.
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'To supporters, the requirement is a useful form of protection against voter fraud and provides an extra layer of security necessary for absentee balloting.

To detractors, it’s a recipe for disenfranchisement.'
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Whose signature doesn't change with time? I won a penmanship award in 3rd grade for my cursive.- - now I can't tell with it's mine or not & have switched almost entirely to block lettering. The person't signature over the years is the least reliable proof of identity.

How many were from military personnel on deployment?
 
I can't speak for everybody, but I know my signature was different on every application I filled out. I'm no fool. I did "John Gotti" in block letters, too. He's definitely absentee.
 
AP Exclusive: Thousands of Ohio absentee applications denied

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Thousands of Ohio voters were held up or stymied in their efforts to get absentee ballots for last year’s general election because of missing or mismatched signatures on their ballot applications, an Associated Press review has found.

The signature requirement on such applications is a largely overlooked and spottily tracked step in Ohio’s voting process, which has shifted increasingly to mail-in ballots since early, no-fault absentee voting was instituted in 2005.
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'To supporters, the requirement is a useful form of protection against voter fraud and provides an extra layer of security necessary for absentee balloting.

To detractors, it’s a recipe for disenfranchisement.'
============================================================
Whose signature doesn't change with time? I won a penmanship award in 3rd grade for my cursive.- - now I can't tell with it's mine or not & have switched almost entirely to block lettering. The person't signature over the years is the least reliable proof of identity.

So Ohio voters can register to vote when they are in 3rd grade?
 
AP Exclusive: Thousands of Ohio absentee applications denied

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Thousands of Ohio voters were held up or stymied in their efforts to get absentee ballots for last year’s general election because of missing or mismatched signatures on their ballot applications, an Associated Press review has found.

The signature requirement on such applications is a largely overlooked and spottily tracked step in Ohio’s voting process, which has shifted increasingly to mail-in ballots since early, no-fault absentee voting was instituted in 2005.
====================================================
'To supporters, the requirement is a useful form of protection against voter fraud and provides an extra layer of security necessary for absentee balloting.

To detractors, it’s a recipe for disenfranchisement.'
============================================================
Whose signature doesn't change with time? I won a penmanship award in 3rd grade for my cursive.- - now I can't tell with it's mine or not & have switched almost entirely to block lettering. The person't signature over the years is the least reliable proof of identity.

Missing signatures are because people forgot how to write at all?

Yes signatures change over time and even vary during a single day, but there are certain touchstones that remain fairly constant over time like the manner in which you make the capital letters at the beginning of your names, which way you slant your letters, whether your style is more jagged or round, etc.
 
So Ohio voters can register to vote when they are in 3rd grade?

Interesting that you leap to that conclusion. That's not what he wrote, as any American who graduated HS can easily see.
....Whose signature doesn't change with time? I won a penmanship award in 3rd grade for my cursive.- - now I can't tell with it's mine or not & have switched almost entirely to block lettering. The person't signature over the years is the least reliable proof of identity.

Consider also "time and place". It's one thing to sit at a desk or table to sign a form and another to sign it on one's knee as Taliban are shooting at you.
 
Interesting that you leap to that conclusion. That's not what he wrote, as any American who graduated HS can easily see.

Consider also "time and place". It's one thing to sit at a desk or table to sign a form and another to sign it on one's knee as Taliban are shooting at you.

Shame you're too inflicted to be able to read and understand what someone posted.

Where is there any proof within the posters lame argument, that a persons signature changes significantly from the time they register to vote, to the present?

Where is there any proof that the signatures that have been questioned involve people who registered many decades ago?
 
Interesting that you leap to that conclusion. That's not what he wrote, as any American who graduated HS can easily see.

Consider also "time and place". It's one thing to sit at a desk or table to sign a form and another to sign it on one's knee as Taliban are shooting at you.

My signature from the day I was pissed off at the DMV looks nothing like anything I've ever done.
 
My signature from the day I was pissed off at the DMV looks nothing like anything I've ever done.

That's pretty stupid. Did you know that when you sign an official document that must be notarized, the go to document to confirm your signature is a Drivers License or other officially recognized document. They even note it in the register they are required to fill out.
 
That's pretty stupid. Did you know that when you sign an official document that must be notarized, the go to document to confirm your signature is a Drivers License or other officially recognized document. They even note it in the register they are required to fill out.

I've had to renew my passport twice. Ever had one? No, right?

What a bumpkin comment.
 
I've had a passport for many decades. Why ask?

Then why don't you know there are other signatures on record with which one can verify?

Your comment is ignorant bumpkin crap.
 
Shame you're too inflicted to be able to read and understand what someone posted.

Where is there any proof within the posters lame argument, that a persons signature changes significantly from the time they register to vote, to the present?

Where is there any proof that the signatures that have been questioned involve people who registered many decades ago?

I had no problem reading the post unlike those who leaped to the conclusion the OP stated 3rd graders could register to vote.

Most educated people recognize that signatures can change over time. As I pointed out in the post you quoted, they can also change due to circumstance of signing. For the lesser educated, Google is your friend:
Kinematics of Signature Writing in Healthy Aging
An understanding of the statistical relationship between advanced age and handwriting movements can reduce the uncertainty that may exist in an examiner’s approach to questioned signatures formed by elderly writers. The primary purpose of this study was to systematically examine age-related changes in signature kinematics in healthy writers. Forty-two healthy subjects between the ages of 60–91 years participated in this study. Signatures were recorded using a digitizing tablet and commercial software was used to examine the temporal and spatial stroke kinematics and pen pressure. Results indicated that vertical stroke duration and dysfluency increased with age, whereas vertical stroke amplitude and velocity decreased with age. Pen pressure decreased with age. We found that a linear model characterized the best-fit relationship between advanced age and handwriting movement parameters for signature formation. Male writers exhibited stronger age effects than female writers, especially for pen pressure and stroke dysfluency. The present study contributes to an understanding of how advanced age alters signature formation in otherwise healthy adults.

Is There a Procedure for Changing My Legal Signature? | Legal Beagle
Unlike names, signatures are not recorded as legal identifiers. Everyone's signature changes drastically and repeatedly between the time he first scrawls his name in block letters to the time he signs his last will and testament. But no government agency tracks these changes.

A person is free to sign his name one way today and another the next day. In reality, most people fall into a habitual signature, but there is no legal obligation that a person follows this norm. According to handwriting specialists, an adult with an established signature will have trouble completely changing it, and "markers" will still be identifiable. But that doesn't make the established signature a legal identifier that the government tracks.
 
I had no problem reading the post unlike those who leaped to the conclusion the OP stated 3rd graders could register to vote.

Most educated people recognize that signatures can change over time. As I pointed out in the post you quoted, they can also change due to circumstance of signing. For the lesser educated, Google is your friend:
Kinematics of Signature Writing in Healthy Aging
An understanding of the statistical relationship between advanced age and handwriting movements can reduce the uncertainty that may exist in an examiner’s approach to questioned signatures formed by elderly writers. The primary purpose of this study was to systematically examine age-related changes in signature kinematics in healthy writers. Forty-two healthy subjects between the ages of 60–91 years participated in this study. Signatures were recorded using a digitizing tablet and commercial software was used to examine the temporal and spatial stroke kinematics and pen pressure. Results indicated that vertical stroke duration and dysfluency increased with age, whereas vertical stroke amplitude and velocity decreased with age. Pen pressure decreased with age. We found that a linear model characterized the best-fit relationship between advanced age and handwriting movement parameters for signature formation. Male writers exhibited stronger age effects than female writers, especially for pen pressure and stroke dysfluency. The present study contributes to an understanding of how advanced age alters signature formation in otherwise healthy adults.

Is There a Procedure for Changing My Legal Signature? | Legal Beagle
Unlike names, signatures are not recorded as legal identifiers. Everyone's signature changes drastically and repeatedly between the time he first scrawls his name in block letters to the time he signs his last will and testament. But no government agency tracks these changes.

A person is free to sign his name one way today and another the next day. In reality, most people fall into a habitual signature, but there is no legal obligation that a person follows this norm. According to handwriting specialists, an adult with an established signature will have trouble completely changing it, and "markers" will still be identifiable. But that doesn't make the established signature a legal identifier that the government tracks.

Nice stories.

You might note I asked for proof.

You seem to be unfamiliar with the word and it's meaning.
 
Nice stories.

You might note I asked for proof.

You seem to be unfamiliar with the word and it's meaning.

LOL. I'm content to let others read you comments and mine then decide for themselves who is a mature, intelligent and educated adult or not.
 
AP Exclusive: Thousands of Ohio absentee applications denied

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Thousands of Ohio voters were held up or stymied in their efforts to get absentee ballots for last year’s general election because of missing or mismatched signatures on their ballot applications, an Associated Press review has found.

The signature requirement on such applications is a largely overlooked and spottily tracked step in Ohio’s voting process, which has shifted increasingly to mail-in ballots since early, no-fault absentee voting was instituted in 2005.
====================================================
'To supporters, the requirement is a useful form of protection against voter fraud and provides an extra layer of security necessary for absentee balloting.

To detractors, it’s a recipe for disenfranchisement.'
============================================================
Whose signature doesn't change with time? I won a penmanship award in 3rd grade for my cursive.- - now I can't tell with it's mine or not & have switched almost entirely to block lettering. The person't signature over the years is the least reliable proof of identity.

7,350 applications were rejected across 26 counties. 1,379,191 absentee ballots were cast in that election so it’s not a huge problem. What do you propose as an alternative to absentee voting fraud prevention?
 
This is a normal part of maintaining voter rolls, so what’s the outrage?
 
more republican voter suppression. vote against every republican until their party corrects itself from within. after that, vote against them anyway, as they aren't going to correct themselves from within.
 
more republican voter suppression. vote against every republican until their party corrects itself from within. after that, vote against them anyway, as they aren't going to correct themselves from within.

Vote against every democrat/socialist until they agree to follow the original meaning of the Constitution, instead of the made up fantasy Communist Manifesto version.
 
Vote against every democrat/socialist until they agree to follow the original meaning of the Constitution, instead of the made up fantasy Communist Manifesto version.

tldr.
 
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