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    Re: Mother who warned authorities about son taking gun to school facing felony charge for neglect

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Both should go to jail for murder. There is only one way to get parents to be responsible with guns and that is to put some of the offenders away.
    Technically, the mentally ill boy was the offender while the mother informed police that he was about to shoot up a school.

    I'm tired of these totally preventable tragedies. If you murder someone while driving drunk they put you away but somehow being irresponsible with dangerous weapons is different when the weapons are guns. The 2nd amendment does not give you the right to kill your children.

    Nobody is saying that the right to bear arms meant the right to kill your children. No one would be defending the mother if the story read like this:
    A mother while drunk accidentally shoots her son who later died
    Also, there's a news article that adds even more information.
    Mom who called to warn about Richmond school shooting in custody

    Investigators say Brandon Clegg videotaped himself on Dec. 12 saying he was going to kill people at Dennis Middle School the next day. The videos reportedly show him breaking the lock of a gun cabinet and retrieving multiple firearms when his mom and her partner weren’t home.
    Unless the investigators are a bunch of big fat liars, it can be presumed that the mother did not let him use the firearms.

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    Re: Mother who warned authorities about son taking gun to school facing felony charge for neglect

    Quote Originally Posted by Masterhawk View Post
    Technically, the mentally ill boy was the offender while the mother informed police that he was about to shoot up a school.




    Nobody is saying that the right to bear arms meant the right to kill your children. No one would be defending the mother if the story read like this:


    Also, there's a news article that adds even more information.
    Mom who called to warn about Richmond school shooting in custody



    Unless the investigators are a bunch of big fat liars, it can be presumed that the mother did not let him use the firearms.
    That is what gun safes are for and she shouldn't even had guns in the house with a mentally ill child. . Leaving guns where children can get them is exactly that same as handing them to them. Lock her up.
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    Re: Mother who warned authorities about son taking gun to school facing felony charge for neglect

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    That is what gun safes are for and she shouldn't even had guns in the house with a mentally ill child. . Leaving guns where children can get them is exactly that same as handing them to them. Lock her up.
    But they weren't left where he could get them (at least he wasn't supposed to be able to get them). He broke into the gun cabinet. Maybe it's not quite as secure as a gun safe but it was supposed to stop him from getting it.

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    Re: Mother who warned authorities about son taking gun to school facing felony charge for neglect

    Quote Originally Posted by Masterhawk View Post
    But they weren't left where he could get them (at least he wasn't supposed to be able to get them). He broke into the gun cabinet. Maybe it's not quite as secure as a gun safe but it was supposed to stop him from getting it.
    That's why you never keep guns in the home of a mental patient especially when they are teenage boys.. The fact that you did not know that is why we have so many of these preventable tragedies. It really is absurd.
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    Re: Mother who warned authorities about son taking gun to school facing felony charge for neglect

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    That's why you never keep guns in the home of a mental patient especially when they are teenage boys.. The fact that you did not know that is why we have so many of these preventable tragedies. It really is absurd.
    What if the boyfriend or the mother need to deal with an intruder?

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    Re: Mother who warned authorities about son taking gun to school facing felony charge for neglect

    Quote Originally Posted by Masterhawk View Post
    What if the boyfriend or the mother need to deal with an intruder?
    LOL Hire a security guard if they are really in danger. 1 out 100 "uses" for a home firearm are protection. The rest are for suicides, "accidents" or felonies. They are instruments of tragedy 99 times out of 100. Do you feel lucky....
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    Re: Mother who warned authorities about son taking gun to school facing felony charge for neglect

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    LOL Hire a security guard if they are really in danger. 1 out 100 "uses" for a home firearm are protection. The rest are for suicides, "accidents" or felonies. They are instruments of tragedy 99 times out of 100. Do you feel lucky....
    If you're gonna downplay self defense cases for being rare, don't use mass shootings to push for more gun control. In 2018, only 373 people died from mass shootings.
    How many mass shootings occurred in the US in 2018 - Business Insider

    If you think that's a lot, 17,284 people were murdered in the US the year prior. I don't imagine there being a huge spike in 2018 so I think it's safe to conclude that mass shooting deaths make up a very small percentage of murders.
    FBI — Murder

    Combined with a population of over 300 million and you get a homicide rate of 5.3 per 100,000. Granted, Canada, Australia, and Europe have even lower rates but it's hardly a crisis.

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    Re: Mother who warned authorities about son taking gun to school facing felony charge for neglect

    Quote Originally Posted by Masterhawk View Post
    If you're gonna downplay self defense cases for being rare, don't use mass shootings to push for more gun control. In 2018, only 373 people died from mass shootings.
    How many mass shootings occurred in the US in 2018 - Business Insider

    If you think that's a lot, 17,284 people were murdered in the US the year prior. I don't imagine there being a huge spike in 2018 so I think it's safe to conclude that mass shooting deaths make up a very small percentage of murders.
    FBI — Murder

    Combined with a population of over 300 million and you get a homicide rate of 5.3 per 100,000. Granted, Canada, Australia, and Europe have even lower rates but it's hardly a crisis.
    LOL So not only do you want careless parents to get away with murder, you also think we should ignore madmen that shoot dozens or even hundreds of innocents. All because you don't want anything to interfere with the flood of guns and the profits of gun makers. It is distressing to say the least.
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    Re: Mother who warned authorities about son taking gun to school facing felony charge for neglect

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    LOL So not only do you want careless parents to get away with murder, you also think we should ignore madmen that shoot dozens or even hundreds of innocents. All because you don't want anything to interfere with the flood of guns and the profits of gun makers. It is distressing to say the least.
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    Re: Mother who warned authorities about son taking gun to school facing felony charge for neglect

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    No her crime was allowing her gun to be used by a minor. Calling the police after you rob a bank does not make you innocent.
    Her crime is being poor. She has been charged with criminal offenses because she could not afford medical care for her son. Thus, she needs to be imprisoned for her crime of not having enough money.

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