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[Illinois] Illinois legislature passes recreational cannabis bill

I wouldn’t count on it. But just drive over the border- we’ll hook you up.

And be subjected to the strong possibility of that red state's law enforcement stopping you on your way home. The routes in and out of Illinois will become cherry patches for the troopers in neighboring states, just as it was for the states surrounding Colorado. Be careful!
 
Imagine how surprised Timothy Leary must have been to find out that God is real and that Jesus is not a pot-head.

Neither was Timothy Leary. He didn't drink and he didn't use cannabis.
 
Legalizing debilitating mind-altering drugs is a natural for godless democrats desiring to legalize every destructive sinful pleasure known to man.

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Cannabis is neither debilitating nor mind-altering. Leave those descriptions to alcohol. No one ever smoked a doobie, then went home to beat his wife and kids.

It's been my view that men who claim to have no vices use that holier-than-thou attitude like a vice. Considering yourself to be morally superior can be very addictive.
 
I doubt anything could surprise Leary. Last I talked to him he said God still hadn't shown back up and Jesus was much more into Ecstacy lately.

Some Leary followers still believe they are fellowshipping with him in pot-smoking outer space. Leary is not in outer space, he is in hell.
 
Some Leary followers still believe they are fellowshipping with him in pot-smoking outer space. Leary is not in outer space, he is in hell.

Leary was the acid guy.

And if there is a hell I'm on the other side from the Guy who made us, knew everything we would ever do, and throws us there anyway.

Screw jahweh. Responsible for massive death and destruction with his stupid religions. That all could have been avoided had he not taken off 2000 years ago.
 
I’m fine with more restrictions at first, than gradual adjustments.

The one think I would have liked to see, which was not even considered, was a ban on advertising. We used to do it with hard alcohol, we presently do it with tobacco.. not sure why it’s not front and center for cannabis.

It's been legal here for several years and so far, no billboards, no TV or radio ads, nothing in magazines or papers that I've seen. It sells itself.

Why should there be a ban on advertising? What would it harm?
 
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Cannabis is neither debilitating nor mind-altering. Leave those descriptions to alcohol. No one ever smoked a doobie, then went home to beat his wife and kids.

It's been my view that men who claim to have no vices use that holier-than-thou attitude like a vice. Considering yourself to be morally superior can be very addictive.

That's one of religions major tricks.
 
They will just piss the tax revenue generated away on social issues/projects and build Gov even more

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Get some cheese to go with that whine, Debbie Downer! Sheesh. Such negativity.
 
Neither was Timothy Leary. He didn't drink and he didn't use cannabis.

The feeling of floating and uninhibited motion experienced by users of marijuana is one thing that Leary cited as evidence for the purpose of the "higher" four circuits.

Timothy Leary - Wikipedia

Yes, Leary was a notorious acid freak who spent almost as much time welcomed by colleges as a reputable expert promoting psychedelic drugs as he did in prisons around the world for his multiple crimes. He was known to have seen the inside of no less than 36 different jails in his sordid lifetime. He is now in prison in hell and will not be getting out.
 
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Cannabis is neither debilitating nor mind-altering. Leave those descriptions to alcohol. No one ever smoked a doobie, then went home to beat his wife and kids.

It's been my view that men who claim to have no vices use that holier-than-thou attitude like a vice. Considering yourself to be morally superior can be very addictive.

And yet statistics show that somewhere in the neighborhood of 10,000 people die from car crashes in America each year due in part to smoking marijuana before driving.

Marijuana a major cause of accidents? What study says - CBS News
 
Jesus was not a pot-head, in spite of the devil's lies to the contrary.

Didn't your god supposedly create all plants an animals? Does that not include the cannabis or hemp plants?
 
Only a buffoon would try to legalize pot which is responsible for the accidental deaths of more Americans each year than die in gun violence.

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Where do you get this ridiculous information? Please cite a reference for that claim.

Good grief!
 
Leary was the acid guy.

And if there is a hell I'm on the other side from the Guy who made us, knew everything we would ever do, and throws us there anyway.

Screw jahweh. Responsible for massive death and destruction with his stupid religions. That all could have been avoided had he not taken off 2000 years ago.

Leary traveled around the world answering invitations from 'friendly' secular universities to promote mind-altering drugs, including marijuana.

The feeling of floating and uninhibited motion experienced by users of marijuana is one thing that Leary cited as evidence for the purpose of the "higher" four circuits.

Timothy Leary - Wikipedia
 
Didn't your god supposedly create all plants an animals? Does that not include the cannabis or hemp plants?

He also flooded the earth in Noah's day but that does not mean He wanted idiots saying He lied about that.
 
Leary traveled around the world answering invitations from 'friendly' secular universities to promote mind-altering drugs, including marijuana.

The feeling of floating and uninhibited motion experienced by users of marijuana is one thing that Leary cited as evidence for the purpose of the "higher" four circuits.

Timothy Leary - Wikipedia

Leary was an LSD guy. Period. I knew him personally, so I think I know more than you. (Yes, in my wild youth, I briefly dated Leary's son. And yes, I took acid many times back in the day. They say if you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there. :D )
 
The study found that nearly 30 percent of fatally injured drivers tested positive for drugs other than alcohol, with marijuana being the main culprit.

Marijuana a major cause of accidents? What study says - CBS News

This study has the same flaw that all such studies have: THC will show up in a urine test as much as six weeks after use. Even the newer saliva tests will show a positive result after a couple of days. There is currently no way to tell is someone is currently under the influence. Theses researchers were biased, and their findings are bogus.

Marijuana vs Alcohol | Is Marijuana Safer Than Alcohol?

You claimed that marijuana-related deaths exceeded shooting deaths. You haven't backed that up.

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Jesus was not a pot-head, in spite of the devil's lies to the contrary.

I'm not sure there's evidence either way on that one, marke.

I'm also not sure that negates my point.

Do you actually have a reason to be in this thread, or are you just having fun playing God, handing out judgment?
 
And be subjected to the strong possibility of that red state's law enforcement stopping you on your way home. The routes in and out of Illinois will become cherry patches for the troopers in neighboring states, just as it was for the states surrounding Colorado. Be careful!

Not so much.

Illinois and Indiana, especially near Chicago, have millions of vehicles passing both ways every day. Way too many to police.

It will be like fireworks traffic- IN has legal fireworks, IL doesn’t, and firework stands line the IN border, catering primarily to IL residents.

Also... Michigan will have legal recreational dispensaries- probably next year. Northern IN will be surrounded!
 
I’m fine with more restrictions at first, than gradual adjustments.

The one think I would have liked to see, which was not even considered, was a ban on advertising. We used to do it with hard alcohol, we presently do it with tobacco.. not sure why it’s not front and center for cannabis.

See, and that's another crazy thing, and speaks heavily to how these decisions are being made. Advertising is completely off the table up here. It seems more and more clear that this is being done simply as a money maker. Not a bad reason to legalize pot, but ultimately a short sided and highly problematic implementation. As much as I would love to see this plant legalized and destigmatized, I know that it can only be done successfully if all of society is considered - these decisions need to be made with a little more in mind than how much pot companies will donate to political campaigns. :)
 
It's been legal here for several years and so far, no billboards, no TV or radio ads, nothing in magazines or papers that I've seen. It sells itself.

Why should there be a ban on advertising? What would it harm?

I seem to recall seeing ads in Colorado. Print? Outdoor signage? I don’t recall.

Primarily the concern is underage kids.

But the point of advertising is to increase users, and I don’t think that’s necessarily a great thing.

In Chicago, we already have billboards for medicinal dispensaries.
 
This study has the same flaw that all such studies have: THC will show up in a urine test as much as six weeks after use. Even the newer saliva tests will show a positive result after a couple of days. There is currently no way to tell is someone is currently under the influence. Theses researchers were biased, and their findings are bogus.

Marijuana vs Alcohol | Is Marijuana Safer Than Alcohol?

You claimed that marijuana-related deaths exceeded shooting deaths. You haven't backed that up.

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Testing positive for marijuana was cause for being fired on most big construction jobs I have worked on for the last 3 decades. That is not because it was against the law but because it impaired workers and put their fellow workers in danger of harm in accidents. The same thing is true about increases of dangers of accidents in automobile driving. To hell with the arguments which seek to lie about those dangers associated with marijuana use.
 
Not so much.

Illinois and Indiana, especially near Chicago, have millions of vehicles passing both ways every day. Way too many to police.

It will be like fireworks traffic- IN has legal fireworks, IL doesn’t, and firework stands line the IN border, catering primarily to IL residents.

Also... Michigan will have legal recreational dispensaries- probably next year. Northern IN will be surrounded!

And then there's Missouri. Getting redder every day. Not to mention Kentucky.
 
This study has the same flaw that all such studies have: THC will show up in a urine test as much as six weeks after use. Even the newer saliva tests will show a positive result after a couple of days. There is currently no way to tell is someone is currently under the influence. Theses researchers were biased, and their findings are bogus.

Marijuana vs Alcohol | Is Marijuana Safer Than Alcohol?

You claimed that marijuana-related deaths exceeded shooting deaths. You haven't backed that up.

:waiting:
Thirty percent of driver deaths are attributable at least in part to marijuana use. That is about 10,000 deaths per year, the same approximate number of deaths related to deliberate gun murders of innocent victims.
 
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