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    Re: One party rule

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    In about 50 years after massive demographic change hits full force like a tidal wave the GOP will be reduced to a minor,regional,party.

    Wait and see.

    "What goes around,comes around."

    Didn't you tells over and over that President Trump would never win the election?
    Not good with predictions....
    This is an all-out assault on Trump and the election result.
    Itís no longer about Russian collusion, if it ever was.


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    Re: One party rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Waddy View Post
    My city has been run by Democrats for generations. There is no opposition. Only infighting within the Democratic machine.

    Most judgeships and other city offices, like Treasurer, have no opposition on the ballot. No one runs against the people in power.

    My state (Kansas) is run by Republicans. It has problems of it's own due to one party rule.

    At least at the national level power changes hands once in a while.

    Sorry about the rant, but I'm sick of one party rule. It's why many cities and some states are in such sorry shape.
    So, first question I would ask is would you say your city overall is run fairly well. I know the Republicans running the state of Kansas have kind of ****ed it up pretty bad. Brownback is one of the least popular governors in the country.

    If the one party you're run by actually has overall good better ideas than the other why wouldn't it be better to just decide between two members of that party than let the ****ty party have power just to say you mixed things up?

    You look at the national scale, and it's true things do get mixed up a bit, generally what you see is a Republican ****s **** up for 8 years, and then a Democrat comes into fix it. But rather than just keep letting Democrats improve things people like yourself think that after 8 years it's good to "mix it up," and that's why this country is absolutely ****ed by Trump right now. How many people who voted for Trump did so because they figured Democrats under Obama had power for eight years, it's time to give the other party a chance for awhile. Even though it was that Party under George W. Bush that lead us into multiple wars and the 2nd greatest financial disaster in U.S. History.

    When the choices you have are between a fairly solid political party, and a ****ty one, you don't to just mix it up every now and then just to try something different. You vote for the good party, until the other one learns to stop being a bunch of **** heads.

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    Re: One party rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense 1 View Post
    Didn't you tells over and over that President Trump would never win the election?
    Not good with predictions....
    Predictions like these have error rates, that can be wrong once in awhile, but over the long haul they always work themselves out. It's like predicting the climate vs predicting the weather another concept you conservatives struggle with. Knowing how hot or cold it's going to be in two weeks can be tricky, but recognizing a trend that the planet is warming is pretty easy. The Republican party can't win without old racist white people. There will be fewer of those in the future. Given that Republicans have only one the popular vote in 1 out of the last 7 straight presidential elections you can't afford to have more and more of your base die off.

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    Re: One party rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Waddy View Post
    My city is having an election. The incumbent mayor (Democrat) is backed by big business while the challenger is more traditional in this town; backed by the fire, police, and utility (city owned) unions. The incumbent has more campaign cash but the challenger (Democrat) has more manpower.
    I feel your paint. Looks like you have two choices:
    1. corporate welfare and entrenched, corrupt power
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    2. union pandering/welfare, + big money

    So what about the average citizen who is not in the government union?
    How do you ensure you don't get entrenched power?

    But you see what's going on here? It's just like two-party control, they simply take those two sides from within a single party. You have one doing corporate welfare and one pandering to union power, sounds like Rs and Ds...
    Remember, two party control looks about the same, and most of us feel that the national elections are just a fight between political elites, and never really revolves around the real issues that matter to most of us.

    Some of it is the system that is winner takes all. If you had a more representational component to which parties were in office, you'd reduce that single party stuff. But in your case I have a feeling it would look pretty much the same, entrenched power + corporate welfare vs money+union pandering..

    I think what HowardBThiname mentions comes into play here. If we cannot clearly choose a policy or set of policies to get what we want...we cant' really blame the status quo on them, it's maybe that there is no real solution? Or no easy one, that's for sure.

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    Re: One party rule

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWonka View Post
    Predictions like these have error rates, that can be wrong once in awhile, but over the long haul they always work themselves out. It's like predicting the climate vs predicting the weather another concept you conservatives struggle with. Knowing how hot or cold it's going to be in two weeks can be tricky, but recognizing a trend that the planet is warming is pretty easy. The Republican party can't win without old racist white people. There will be fewer of those in the future. Given that Republicans have only one the popular vote in 1 out of the last 7 straight presidential elections you can't afford to have more and more of your base die off.
    Babble nonsense.... Demonizing large groups of people who vote differently then you. Wishing people dead?
    So glad President Trump pulled us out of the extremely bad Paris deal!
    This is an all-out assault on Trump and the election result.
    Itís no longer about Russian collusion, if it ever was.


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    Re: One party rule

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Come back and tell us how wrong you were about Trump.

    Trump's poll numbers continue to sink.He'll probably lose in2020 if he's theGOP's candidate.

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    Re: One party rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense 1 View Post
    Didn't you tells over and over that President Trump would never win the election?
    Not good with predictions....

    Tell me all about it after he loses in 2020.If he's the GOP's candidate.The GOP could wise up and run someone else.


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    Re: One party rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense 1 View Post
    Babble nonsense.... Demonizing large groups of people who vote differently then you.
    Doesn't matter how large the group was, they all made the same evil choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense 1 View Post
    Wishing people dead?
    Wishing....no? I'd prefer to open their minds to reality, but given that they're mostly too old, too closed-minded, and too bigotted to learn anything new, I will take solace in the reality that every year there's about a million of them or so that we no longer have to worry about ****ing up our future any longer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense 1 View Post
    So glad President Trump pulled us out of the extremely bad Paris deal!
    Oh, you mean the one that every single solitary other responsible nation(and even some otherwise irresponsible ones) has signed up for.

    American Exceptionalism died the day Donald Trump won the Presidency. The second Trump was sworn in, the United States lost any credibility, and ability to buck international consensus, and pretend that we're the smart ones who are doing things are own way.

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    Re: One party rule

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    In about 50 years after massive demographic change hits full force like a tidal wave the GOP will be reduced to a minor,regional,party.

    Wait and see.

    "What goes around,comes around."

    I used to think this, too. That Republicans had no real future due to shifting demographics. Usually demographics drives most things. But how do you explain entire blocks of voters changing sides? Several solid Democratic states voted for Trump. The old Democratic South switched to Reagan, and stayed there. What I believe now, is the excesses by one party, built up over decades of politics, often leads to a resurgence of the other side. Liberal excesses will lead to a conservative backlash.

    And if you examine Hispanic and/or black social values, they are much more in line with the family values of the Republican party. It is only on the issue of civil rights and immigration that the Democrats hold these voters. And what happens when Hispanics and immigrant blacks eventually dominate the business world? They will discover the importance of lower taxes and less regulation, that's what will happen.

    So I think we will always have both a liberal and a conservative party in this country. Power will swing between the two depending on their excesses. Only the color will change.

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    Re: One party rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Waddy View Post
    I used to think this, too. That Republicans had no real future due to shifting demographics. Usually demographics drives most things. But how do you explain entire blocks of voters changing sides? Several solid Democratic states voted for Trump. The old Democratic South switched to Reagan, and stayed there. What I believe now, is the excesses by one party, built up over decades of politics, often leads to a resurgence of the other side. Liberal excesses will lead to a conservative backlash.

    And if you examine Hispanic and/or black social values, they are much more in line with the family values of the Republican party. It is only on the issue of civil rights and immigration that the Democrats hold these voters. And what happens when Hispanics and immigrant blacks eventually dominate the business world? They will discover the importance of lower taxes and less regulation, that's what will happen.

    So I think we will always have both a liberal and a conservative party in this country. Power will swing between the two depending on their excesses. Only the color will change.


    Believe whatever you want to believe.It will have no effect on reality.

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