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    The Disaster which is Illinois

    Pretty good article here dissecting the current situation. I guess, you could say this is what happens when Democrats run amok.

    https://www.gty.org/library/question...s-it-important

    Illinois is on the verge of becoming America's first state with a junk credit rating. The financial mess is the inevitable result of spending more on pensions and services than the state could afford -- then covering it up with reckless budget tricks.

    After decades of historic mismanagement, Illinois is now grappling with $15 billion of unpaid bills and an unthinkable quarter-trillion dollars owed to public employees when they retire.
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    In fairness, all politicians promise something for nothin' in order to get elected. Nobody says pay as you go, unless it's directed at what the other side wants to fund. It's why we're in such debt, both national and local.

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    Re: The Disaster which is Illinois

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Pretty good article here dissecting the current situation. I guess, you could say this is what happens when Democrats run amok.

    https://www.gty.org/library/question...s-it-important

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    Thank you, Speaker Madigan.
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    Re: The Disaster which is Illinois

    Illinois Governor Out to Smash Bankrupt 'Blue Model'
    George Will, Boston Herald

    . . . In 2018, Rauner will try to enlist voters in the constructive demolition of the “blue model.” It is based on Madigan’s docile herd of incumbent legislators, who are entrenched by campaign funds from government unions. Through them government, sitting on both sides of the table, negotiates with itself to expand itself. Term limits for legislators, which a large majority of Illinoisans favor, would dismantle the wall.
    A 60 percent supermajority of the legislature is required for such a constitutional reform. So, next year voters will be urged to oppose any legislature candidate who will not pledge to vote to put term limits on the ballot. And all candidates will be asked how often they have voted for Madigan for speaker — he has a 26 percent approval rating — and to pledge not to sin again.
    “I love a fight,” says an ebullient Rauner, whose rhetoric cannot get much more pugnacious. He calls Madigan “the worst elected official in the country” and Madigan’s machine “evil.” The nation has a huge stake in this brawl because the “blue model” is bankrupting cities and states from Connecticut to California, so its demolition here, where it has done the most damage, would be a wondrous story enhancing the nation’s glory.
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    Re: The Disaster which is Illinois

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Pretty good article here dissecting the current situation. I guess, you could say this is what happens when Democrats run amok.

    https://www.gty.org/library/question...s-it-important



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    As a Rockford native let me correct the record.....this is what happens when partisans refuse to work together for the greater good over a long period of time.
    I regret that, in our attempt to establish some standards, we didn't make them stick, we couldn't find a way to pass them on to another generation, really.<<<<<<<Walter Cronkite

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    As a Rockford native let me correct the record.....this is what happens when partisans refuse to work together for the greater good over a long period of time.
    Rockford is a great example of what happens when industry decides it doesn't need your town anymore.

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    Re: The Disaster which is Illinois

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Rockford is a great example of what happens when industry decides it doesn't need your town anymore.
    Rockford was in big trouble before the mass export of its jobs in the 80's, so much so that in 1974-75 under new Mayor Mcgaw a lot of us were wearing giant "ROCKY PRIDE!" buttons. We just could never get over the loss of the Elm Trees. Then there were the massive strikes of the 70's too.
    I regret that, in our attempt to establish some standards, we didn't make them stick, we couldn't find a way to pass them on to another generation, really.<<<<<<<Walter Cronkite

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    Re: The Disaster which is Illinois

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Rockford is a great example of what happens when industry decides it doesn't need your town anymore.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Rockford was in big trouble before the mass export of its jobs in the 80's, so much so that in 1974-75 under new Mayor Mcgaw a lot of us were wearing giant "ROCKY PRIDE!" buttons. We just could never get over the loss of the Elm Trees. Then there were the massive strikes of the 70's too.
    When I was a boy (1950's-60's) my parents had good friends who lived in Rockford. They had a big house on a tree-lined boulevard. Coming from my small southern Indiana town, I remember being impressed when we visited.
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    Re: The Disaster which is Illinois

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    When I was a boy (1950's-60's) my parents had good friends who lived in Rockford. They had a big house on a tree-lined boulevard. Coming from my small southern Indiana town, I remember being impressed when we visited.
    I just missed them, moving there as a baby in 1963, but I remember well how much mourning there was over their loss still in the late 60's, and we know what was going on in the world then too, and the early 70's too, spiritually it was as if someone stepped on Rockfords throat and would not get off, this conservative mid-West town/city could not catch a break....the news was always bad.

    Then things got worse.
    I regret that, in our attempt to establish some standards, we didn't make them stick, we couldn't find a way to pass them on to another generation, really.<<<<<<<Walter Cronkite

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    Re: The Disaster which is Illinois

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    I just missed them, moving there as a baby in 1963, but I remember well how much mourning there was over their loss still in the late 60's, and we know what was going on in the world then too, and the early 70's too, spiritually it was as if someone stepped on Rockfords throat and would not get off, this conservative mid-West town/city could not catch a break....the news was always bad.

    Then things got worse.
    I can't recall the name of the street. Does "Colorado Avenue" ring a bell?
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