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The Disaster which is Illinois

EMNofSeattle said:
In other words, fake jobs that exist only because of subsidies leftists provide them
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These jobs are about as fake as...the 2020 Presidential election!!!!!/s

Honestly, conservatives can't blame themselves for why the rot of this nation is mostly on them.
 
Roadvirus said:
Which makes me wonder how much they have invested in Prickster's campaign
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Why would you think that?

Because you can’t get your head around the fact that Chicago has a young, talented tech workforce that attracts most of the best graduates from the entire Midwest?

I know graduates from Michigan, Ohio Sate, Iowa, Wisconsin, Indiana…and they all want to move to Chicago. Not Indianapolis or Cincinnati.

It’s the magnet for talent across the Midwest and beyond, as it has been since the 19th century. Companies know that, and that’s why they’re coming here- McDonalds and Motorola just relocated to Chicago from the burbs, because it’s where productive employees want to live.
 
Roadvirus said:
www.thecentersquare.com

New S&P report shows Illinois with worst credit in the nation

(The Center Square) – In May, Illinois saw its credit rating from S&P Global Rating increase. But the latest newsletter from the ratings agency shows the state has the worst
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Yep. Downstate conservatives refused to increase taxes for years and defer the costs to pensions that will need to be paid decades later. Democrats when taking with it.

I remember the 80s, when Thompson stopped funding pensions so he could provide state services on the cheap. He was a GOP governor.
 
Roadvirus said:
Damn those Downstater GOPers who allow their constituents to keep their hard-earned money!
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Now, you're not wrong. People want to see their money put to good use, but lawmakers are doing the opposite of what they should be doing due to nefarious reasons that no one admits they are responsible for.

But, this is IL, property taxes will always be high with how salaries and pensions work. The system is rigged for public workers to experience high salary increases towards the end of their career, so they can get 90% of the highest years. It's not sustainable. We need a third-party because too many are in the wrong without knowing and seeing it.
 
slavablueberryjam said:
Now, you're not wrong. People want to see their money put to good use, but lawmakers are doing the opposite of what they should be doing due to nefarious reasons that no one admits they are responsible for.

But, this is IL, property taxes will always be high with how salaries and pensions work. The system is rigged for public workers to experience high salary increases towards the end of their career, so they can get 90% of the highest years. It's not sustainable. We need a third-party because too many are in the wrong without knowing and seeing it.
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I think they’ve fixed that part of the pension issue. The primary problem was underfunded and overgenerous pensions thru the 70s and 80s and 90s by politicians who underpaid state employees. I am a recipient of that - although I didn’t stick around long enough to get a large pension, and at this point, going back to work for the state might increase my pension substantially, but its not worth it to me. Newer state employees are not under those old rules - I think it changed in about 2000, with other changes in 2010.
 
Threegoofs said:
I think they’ve fixed that part of the pension issue. The primary problem was underfunded and overgenerous pensions thru the 70s and 80s and 90s by politicians who underpaid state employees. I am a recipient of that - although I didn’t stick around long enough to get a large pension, and at this point, going back to work for the state might increase my pension substantially, but its not worth it to me. Newer state employees are not under those old rules - I think it changed in about 2000, with other changes in 2010.
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My memory is that Quinn was enacting changes to IL state employees, that would have forced many state employees to finance their own pension instead of the state doing it the way it was. But then Bruce won and I'm not too sure what happened. State employees still get too high of a pension- though.
 
Solution is obvious, elect more democratic party legislators.

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Who Pays? 6th Edition – State-by-State Data

The ITEP Tax Inequality Index measures the effects of each state’s tax system on income inequality by assessing the comparative impact a state’s tax system has on the post-tax incomes of taxpayers at different income levels. Essentially, it answers the following question: Are incomes more equal...
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This is a strange thread... it keeps getting necroed over and over. LOL
 
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