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    Re: Rahm Emanuel to require post-high school plan to get diploma.

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    Re: Rahm Emanuel to require post-high school plan to get diploma.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The first time I've ever agreed with this asshole. Every state should require it.
    No way, American.

    Forcing private citizens to get a job or go to college in order to confer their H.S. diploma?

    Why? What bearing do these things have on an individual's prior academic performance? Why should a good student be passed over if he or she won't do the state's bidding after they finish their academic requirements?

    This sounds like stateism.
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    Re: Rahm Emanuel to require post-high school plan to get diploma.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    No way, American.

    Forcing private citizens to get a job or go to college in order to confer their H.S. diploma?

    Why? What bearing do these things have on an individual's prior academic performance? Why should a good student be passed over if he or she won't do the state's bidding after they finish their academic requirements?

    This sounds like stateism.
    it's a way to force high school students to recognize the reality that a HS diploma is a commencement, not an ending
    only 18% of the students go on to complete 4 year degrees
    the target is 60% by 2025
    and there is no reason for any student to be denied their diploma - IF they expend the effort to apply to a local community college. chicago HS diplomas automatically grant the newly minted graduate admission to community colleges

    not a fan of rahm, but this is a good idea
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    Re: Rahm Emanuel to require post-high school plan to get diploma.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    No way, American.

    Forcing private citizens to get a job or go to college in order to confer their H.S. diploma?

    Why? What bearing do these things have on an individual's prior academic performance? Why should a good student be passed over if he or she won't do the state's bidding after they finish their academic requirements?

    This sounds like stateism.
    So is requiring you to attend school, or passing certain classes to get your diploma.
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    Re: Rahm Emanuel to require post-high school plan to get diploma.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    it's a way to force high school students to recognize the reality that a HS diploma is a commencement, not an ending
    only 18% of the students go on to complete 4 year degrees
    the target is 60% by 2025
    and there is no reason for any student to be denied their diploma - IF they expend the effort to apply to a local community college. chicago HS diplomas automatically grant the newly minted graduate admission to community colleges

    not a fan of rahm, but this is a good idea
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    Re: Rahm Emanuel to require post-high school plan to get diploma.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    it's a way to force high school students to recognize the reality that a HS diploma is a commencement, not an ending
    only 18% of the students go on to complete 4 year degrees
    the target is 60% by 2025
    and there is no reason for any student to be denied their diploma - IF they expend the effort to apply to a local community college. chicago HS diplomas automatically grant the newly minted graduate admission to community colleges

    not a fan of rahm, but this is a good idea
    I vehemently disagree.

    This is encroaching against my kids free-will and my parental authority.

    The state has no business telling my kid what it takes to be their version of an upstanding citizen. As long as my kid did the required academics and is living lawfully, it's none of their business what he or she does as long as they conduct themselves lawfully

    In my old neighborhood we had a history of taking summer "bum around America" road trips to celebrate the ending of High School. Fill-up a couple of vans (yeah, it was the '70's) with the neighborhood guys, and vagabond off to all points west with no hard destination, having as much cash as we could muster, sleeping in campgrounds or hidden off the sides of roads, and coming home only when the money ran out and begging our parents no longer worked. No idea how it started. But I passed the tradition down to my son, and he and his buddies went down South instead of West, the only difference being my son's boys were suburban kids and better funded.

    My six weeks bumming across America was one of the best things I ever did! I remember it well 'till today, and some of those friendships forged back then were deepened to the point they remain until today. We learned a little about life and America, and a lot about ourselves. We also learned long distance collect calling, begging parents for food and gas money, and how to use Western Union!

    I'm also encouraging my kids to do a traditional international bum-around after their undergrads. Hell - if they want to take a summer or the better part of a year vagabonding, I'm all for it. They worked hard and earned it. You're only young once!

    I know this is a specific example, above. But quite frankly it's nobody's business to tell my kid what to do or be, as long as he conducts himself lawfully. Let them be themselves. let them find themselves.
    Last edited by Chomsky; 04-07-17 at 02:57 PM. Reason: change 'agree' typo to 'disagree'
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    Re: Rahm Emanuel to require post-high school plan to get diploma.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So is requiring you to attend school, or passing certain classes to get your diploma.
    Yes, but those reqs are for the specific period of the awarded diploma. This proposal is predicated upon forward performance.

    But regardless keep academics to academics, and life to life.

    Please consider reading my post #26 here, to see how I handled my immediate post H.S. experience. I wouldn't do it any other way if I had the chance!
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    Re: Rahm Emanuel to require post-high school plan to get diploma.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Yes, but those reqs are for the specific period of the awarded diploma. This proposal is predicated upon forward performance.

    But regardless keep academics to academics, and life to life.

    Please consider reading my post #26 here, to see how I handled my immediate post H.S. experience. I wouldn't do it any other way if I had the chance!
    I see nothing wrong with it, especially in Chicago.
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    Re: Rahm Emanuel to require post-high school plan to get diploma.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I see nothing wrong with it, especially in Chicago.
    What if this encouraged higher drop-out numbers?

    And what about students who don't want or need to go to college? They have a good GPA but aren't awarded their diplomas?

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    Re: Rahm Emanuel to require post-high school plan to get diploma.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    it's a way to force high school students to recognize the reality that a HS diploma is a commencement, not an ending
    only 18% of the students go on to complete 4 year degrees
    the target is 60% by 2025
    and there is no reason for any student to be denied their diploma - IF they expend the effort to apply to a local community college. chicago HS diplomas automatically grant the newly minted graduate admission to community colleges

    not a fan of rahm, but this is a good idea
    So at what point are citizens allowed to make their own decisions in life? I mean, besides a woman and her choice to have an abortion or not of course.

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