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Can Dems be any more out of touch? No, they can't.

MaggieD

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I wasn't aware than Chicago was a so-called Sanctuary city until Raum Emanuel's press conference yesterday. But there it is. In a city that is certainly one of the murder capitals of the United States, Mayor Emanuel called a press conference to "invite" illegal immigrants who are drug dealers, rapists, thieves, extortionists, drug dealers, thugs, gang bangers, murderers and more to come to The City of Chicago where they will be safe.

"Chicago always has been a Sanctuary City."

And Democrats wonder why Donald Teump won the election.

What stupid fools.

He COULD have said.

If you are in the United States illegally, and you break the law, you will be detained per ICE direction for possible deportation. You are now on notice."

But that would have taken balls. What is WRONG with Democrats? What don't they GET?
 
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I hope trump will cut off all federal funds to sanctuary cities.
 
Chicago is Sinaloan [Cartel] territory. Raum is probably getting paid.

Here in Austin, they elected a sheriff, a councilman [or several] and a supportive Mayor who are all for a continuing sanctuary status. Our Governor and the Trump admin. need to come down hard on this crap.
 
Immigrants do less crime than natives, a lot less.

Oh wait, is this thread one of those goofball Reality Free Zones?

My apologies if you know that was fiction.

I don't doubt they do less. Most of them just want to stay beneath the radar. But those that DO? Why would ANY public official want to protect them??
 
I wasn't aware than Chicago was a so-called Sanctuary city until Raum Emanuel's press conference yesterday. But there it is. In a city that is certainly one of the murder capitals of the United States, Mayor Emanuel called a press conference to "invite" illegal immigrants who are drug dealers, rapists, thieves, extortionists, drug dealers, thugs, gang bangers, murderers and more to come to The City of Chicago where they will be safe.

"Chicago always has been a Sanctuary City."

And Democrats wonder why Donald Teump won the election.

What stupid fools.

He COULD have said.



But that would have taken balls. What is WRONG with Democrats? What don't they GET?

Apparently they want to keep losing elections.
 
I don't doubt they do less. Most of them just want to stay beneath the radar. But those that DO? Why would ANY public official want to protect them??

Perhaps because having an underclass is massively stupid.
 
Immigrants do less crime than natives, a lot less.

Oh wait, is this thread one of those goofball Reality Free Zones?

My apologies if you know that was fiction.

The Mythical Connection Between Immigrants and Crime - WSJ


Illegal aliens do not qualify as immigrants with me any more than I would call shoplifters consumers.

Every crime committed by an illegal is too many since the illegals should not be here in the first place
 
Illegal aliens do not qualify as immigrants with me any more than I would call shoplifters consumers.

Every crime committed by an illegal is too many since the illegals should not be here in the first place

I really do not understand why people are defending illegal aliens.
 
I wasn't aware than Chicago was a so-called Sanctuary city until Raum Emanuel's press conference yesterday. But there it is. In a city that is certainly one of the murder capitals of the United States, Mayor Emanuel called a press conference to "invite" illegal immigrants who are drug dealers, rapists, thieves, extortionists, drug dealers, thugs, gang bangers, murderers and more to come to The City of Chicago where they will be safe.

"Chicago always has been a Sanctuary City."

And Democrats wonder why Donald Teump won the election.

What stupid fools.

He COULD have said.



But that would have taken balls. What is WRONG with Democrats? What don't they GET?

We understand exactly what it is your ilk want to do and we're going to sabotage it.
 
I don't doubt they do less. Most of them just want to stay beneath the radar. But those that DO? Why would ANY public official want to protect them??

You are wondering why any public official would want to protect immigrants that are committing crimes? I don't think any of them are doing that. None that I've heard of unless I misunderstand you.
 
Apparently they want to keep losing elections.

This election was all about personality, persona, not much substance or ideals or a vision of where one or the other wanted to take the country. Sure anti illegal immigrationist were avid Trump supporters and pro illegal immigrationist avid Clinton supporters, but they didn't make up that much of the electorate one way or the other.

Looking at the anti vote, those who vote against a candidate and are not for or care if the other candidate wins, just as long as either Clinton or Trump lose. Those were the one's that decided this election. Trump received far more anti-Clinton votes than Clinton received anti-Trump votes. The very anti candidate while not particularly caring for the other candidate was there in all the polls for us to see and in all the exit polls. It was just most of us to include the political pundits and prognosticators spaced over it to include myself.

It boiled down to a bit less than a quarter of the electorate really wanted Trump and a bit less than a quarter of the electorate really wanted Clinton to be our next president. The rest of both of their votes were the anti type or the hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils. Then you have all those who stayed home or voted third party who didn't like either and showed it in their own way.

This year we had 251 million eligible to vote 126 million did. In 2012 235 million were eligible, 129 million did. In 2008 230 million eligible 132 million did. That's the story and part of the reason Trump won, 6 million less voters than in 2008 even though 21 million more were eligible. The bottom line is although the Democrats had the larger base vote, 32% to 27% for the Republicans, Trump excited his base, Clinton didn't, she was dull and boring.

Another reason Trump won in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania is Clinton was too busy running to California, New York, Illinois for fund raisers instead of having rallies in those three states. Trump held rally after rally and spent very little time at fund raisers whereas Clinton spent quite a bit of her time doing so.
 
I really do not understand why people are defending illegal aliens.

I suppose there are varying reasons.

And none of them are good
 
You are wondering why any public official would want to protect immigrants that are committing crimes? I don't think any of them are doing that. None that I've heard of unless I misunderstand you.

Sanctuary Cities do exactly that by refusing to cooperate with ICE. Emanuel held that press conference in response to DT saying he intended to target criminals who were here illegally.
 
We understand exactly what it is your ilk want to do and we're going to sabotage it.

This guy may have a point to make but he's not sharing it with the rest of us.

"Ug, Trump bad - illegal aliens good" is about all the lefties have to offer
 
This election was all about personality, persona, not much substance or ideals or a vision of where one or the other wanted to take the country. Sure anti illegal immigrationist were avid Trump supporters and pro illegal immigrationist avid Clinton supporters, but they didn't make up that much of the electorate one way or the other.

Looking at the anti vote, those who vote against a candidate and are not for or care if the other candidate wins, just as long as either Clinton or Trump lose. Those were the one's that decided this election. Trump received far more anti-Clinton votes than Clinton received anti-Trump votes. The very anti candidate while not particularly caring for the other candidate was there in all the polls for us to see and in all the exit polls. It was just most of us to include the political pundits and prognosticators spaced over it to include myself.

It boiled down to a bit less than a quarter of the electorate really wanted Trump and a bit less than a quarter of the electorate really wanted Clinton to be our next president. The rest of both of their votes were the anti type or the hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils. Then you have all those who stayed home or voted third party who didn't like either and showed it in their own way.

This year we had 251 million eligible to vote 126 million did. In 2012 235 million were eligible, 129 million did. In 2008 230 million eligible 132 million did. That's the story and part of the reason Trump won, 6 million less voters than in 2008 even though 21 million more were eligible. The bottom line is although the Democrats had the larger base vote, 32% to 27% for the Republicans, Trump excited his base, Clinton didn't, she was dull and boring.

Another reason Trump won in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania is Clinton was too busy running to California, New York, Illinois for fund raisers instead of having rallies in those three states. Trump held rally after rally and spent very little time at fund raisers whereas Clinton spent quite a bit of her time doing so.

I disagree. This election was a rejection of status quo.

First to be rejected was Democrats insistence of "Inclusion." People said no to refugees, illegal aliens, BLM, etc. Why? Well, IMO, it was because the D version of "inclusion" excluded the uneducated or lower income white working class. In short, the party of tolerance was intolerant of those who do not tolerate their PC, multiculturalism BS. In the end, excluding these people, making fun of them even, cost them dearly.


Another problem is that the D have become the Political Elite. A class by themselves who surround themselves with highly educated --often rich--liberals. As a result, they no longer have an ear for those less educated folks who do not toe the liberal line (white or black). Like I said, they make fun of these people: whites are rednecks, blacks are Uncle Toms. That cost them dearly too.

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What was wrong with Hillary? Well, for one, the Clinton's are a political powerhouse. They blocked any and all moderate competitors from gaining a foothold in the party. Hillary is so well connected with the elite that Chelsea Clinton landed a $600,000 salary working as a junior reporter for NBC. Great work if you can find it.

Now the Republicans: Basically they are the same as the Democrats: a party of elites. The big exception being instead of being married to "inclusion" and multiculturalism, they are tied to the religious folks. But, make no mistake, the Party is beholden to the elites: the rich, the intellectuals on the Far Right Religious.


All of a sudden, here comes Trump with his own money. He says, "Screw You!" to all those elites and manages to connect to the forgotten class: the uneducated, the redneck, the Uncle Tom, and anyone else who has had it with PC, multicultural elites and their BS intellectualism.
 
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I wasn't aware than Chicago was a so-called Sanctuary city until Raum Emanuel's press conference yesterday. But there it is. In a city that is certainly one of the murder capitals of the United States, Mayor Emanuel called a press conference to "invite" illegal immigrants who are drug dealers, rapists, thieves, extortionists, drug dealers, thugs, gang bangers, murderers and more to come to The City of Chicago where they will be safe.

"Chicago always has been a Sanctuary City."

And Democrats wonder why Donald Teump won the election.

What stupid fools.

He COULD have said.



But that would have taken balls. What is WRONG with Democrats? What don't they GET?

Anecdotal I know but I work with someone whose husband (who happens to be Hispanic) is a Border Patrol agent. He's told her what we do with illegal immigrants and it's catch and release in the U.S. with some sort of summons to appear in an immigration court and, of course, the large majority never do. We'll (taxpayers) even pay for airline tickets for them to go wherever. She and her husband both voted for Trump.
 
I suppose there are varying reasons.

And none of them are good

I have a hunch it has a lot to do with the liberal idea that laws do not really apply equally to all.

Blacks looting, rioting and burning down a city--they are special because..slavery and Jim Crow. Criminal law should not apply to them.

Muslims from god knows where---they should be given front of the line status for entry into the US because...war. Immigration law should not apply to them.

Illegal aliens--we cannot deport them because...they have been here so long, they are like us now. Laws requiring proper entry and obtaining green cards should not apply to them.

Hillary---we cannot insist that she follow the rules about emails and classified information because...Hillary. Laws on national security and espionage should not apply to her.
 
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