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harsh penalties for domestic abuse is un-Islamic

TypicalRussian said:
my original claim was this:

"and men in their place too, i.e fighting wars and being the horseplows of society"

you took it out of context like many things you do here on DP

now,please answer the question
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Newp, I took nothing out of context. You flatly stated there was no draft. There was, indeed, a draft.

You lose. I win.

Again.
 
Yasureoktoo said:
In most cultures men generally protect the women. They are the ones who take care of the house and family.
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Not in the west though which you admire so much.


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MeSoNe said:
Not in the west though which you admire so much.


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everywhere men love to protect women-its just what they do
 
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