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2 women allegedly killed by relatives for kiss seen in online video

I’m sorry but I have been reading this thread with interest because I know very little on the topic

The first thing you need to know about Islam is that it is nothing like the other two Abrahamics. I think of them as the letter 'Y'. The stem is the OT, which all three accept. The arms are the Qur'an and the NT heading off in different directions. The NT is Jesus and tip-toeing through the tulips compared to the Qur'an. The bible had about 40 authors who wrote it in three languages over hundreds of years, and obviously without collusion or a cohesive agenda in mind. On the other hand, the Qur'an was authored in just 22 1/2 years by one man in one language. One author - one agenda, and that agenda should very much bother anyone who takes the time to examine it. The 'sword verses' are so frequently quoted because they are the culmination of the evolution of Islam. They define the final direction that it took.
 
To add to Steve's comment, the Qur'an is only 14% of Islamic text, and basically to keep the sheep inline.
It is impossible to figure out if that is the only book you read.
And most Muslims, including our friend here, don't even know the correct way to read it to understand what can be understood.

The important writings are the teachings and deeds of Muhammed, and they are not in the Qur'an.
 
“Girl, 13, is ‘beheaded by her father while she slept in Iranian honour killing’: Victim ‘had fallen in love with an older man,'” by Alice Cachia, Mailonline, May 27, 2020 (thanks to Mick):
A 13-year-old Iranian girl has been beheaded in an honour killing by her father while she was sleeping, local media have claimed.
Romina Ashrafi was killed with a sickle in her family home in Hovigh, Talesh county, as a form of ‘punishment’, reports said.
She had planned to run away with an older man she had fallen in love with, Iran International TV said.
The teenage girl initially fled the family home with a 35-year-old man after her father expressed outrage at their plans to get married.
But both of their families contacted authorities, leading security forces to conduct a hunt before detaining the couple and taking Romina home.
Local media reported that although Romina told authorities she would be in danger at home and feared for her life, they handed her back as required by Islamic Republic laws.
After committing the murder, Romina’s father allegedly handed himself in to police and confessed to the crime – while still holding the bloodied murder weapon.
District governor Kazem Razmi said the girl’s father is being held in custody and an investigation into the case is underway….
Romina’s father will escape the death penalty because he was Romina’s ‘guardian’, and Islamic Penal Code means he is exempt from ‘qisas’, or ‘retaliation in kind’, Al Arabiya reported.
Sharia law says that only ‘blood owners’ – immediate family members – are allowed to demand execution for the murder of a relative.
It means most honour killings go unpunished since families tend not to demand the death sentence for another family member….
While the exact number of honour killings in Iran is not known, a Tehran police official has previously said they account for around 20 per cent of Iran’s murders.


THEY SHOULD HAVE BEHEADED THE MAN.
 
“Girl, 13, is ‘beheaded by her father while she slept in Iranian honour killing’: Victim ‘had fallen in love with an older man,'” by Alice Cachia, Mailonline, May 27, 2020 (thanks to Mick):
A 13-year-old Iranian girl has been beheaded in an honour killing by her father while she was sleeping, local media have claimed.
Romina Ashrafi was killed with a sickle in her family home in Hovigh, Talesh county, as a form of ‘punishment’, reports said.
She had planned to run away with an older man she had fallen in love with, Iran International TV said.
The teenage girl initially fled the family home with a 35-year-old man after her father expressed outrage at their plans to get married.
But both of their families contacted authorities, leading security forces to conduct a hunt before detaining the couple and taking Romina home.
Local media reported that although Romina told authorities she would be in danger at home and feared for her life, they handed her back as required by Islamic Republic laws.
After committing the murder, Romina’s father allegedly handed himself in to police and confessed to the crime – while still holding the bloodied murder weapon.
District governor Kazem Razmi said the girl’s father is being held in custody and an investigation into the case is underway….
Romina’s father will escape the death penalty because he was Romina’s ‘guardian’, and Islamic Penal Code means he is exempt from ‘qisas’, or ‘retaliation in kind’, Al Arabiya reported.
Sharia law says that only ‘blood owners’ – immediate family members – are allowed to demand execution for the murder of a relative.
It means most honour killings go unpunished since families tend not to demand the death sentence for another family member….
While the exact number of honour killings in Iran is not known, a Tehran police official has previously said they account for around 20 per cent of Iran’s murders.


THEY SHOULD HAVE BEHEADED THE MAN.

are you just going to report every single honor killing and say "look at what the muslims are doing"

its a crime in the nations, it is literraly illegal

THIS JUST IN:AN ATHEIST COMMITTED A CRIME, CLEARLY WE NEED MORE RELIGION IN AMERICA
 
are you just going to report every single honor killing and say "look at what the muslims are doing"

its a crime in the nations, it is literraly illegal

THIS JUST IN:AN ATHEIST COMMITTED A CRIME, CLEARLY WE NEED MORE RELIGION IN AMERICA

Actually that is an incorrect comparison.
There is no atheist handbook that orders such behavior.
 
subjective morality usually comes from religions.
It hardly anything to do with being an atheist

no objective morality is from religion

everything under atheism is ok
 
no objective morality is from religion

everything under atheism is ok

No It is not
You sound as though Being an atheist has certain rules and rituals to follow, like a religion.
An atheist simply does not believe in a God.
I'm an atheist, but strongly follow the laws of the karmic scale.
Man is a communal animal, and morals come from the environment.
 
No It is not
You sound as though Being an atheist has certain rules and rituals to follow, like a religion.
An atheist simply does not believe in a God.
I'm an atheist, but strongly follow the laws of the karmic scale.
Man is a communal animal, and morals come from the environment.

wrong, atheism belives in anarchy and communism
 
wrong, atheism belives in anarchy and communism

I don't know where you got that information,
I certainly don't.

atheists are different as night and day,
If you talk to ten, you might get ten different opinions.
The only thing they have in common, is they do not believe in a God.
 
I don't know where you got that information,
I certainly don't.

atheists are different as night and day,
If you talk to ten, you might get ten different opinions.
The only thing they have in common, is they do not believe in a God.

subjective morality means anybody can do anything aka anarchy
 
subjective morality means anybody can do anything aka anarchy

Subjective Morality means that our morality is based on our society and our interactions with it. There is no Pre-Defined Morality like many religious people believe. In other words morality is spontaneous. It depends on the situation not on a predefined rule.
 
Subjective Morality means that our morality is based on our society and our interactions with it. There is no Pre-Defined Morality like many religious people believe. In other words morality is spontaneous. It depends on the situation not on a predefined rule.

right

so its ok to do anything
 
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